Dzeko - 50th goal

[Tesl]

Utter shite and the sooner he's shipped out and we buy a decent striker, the better. Yes, he scored, but the rest of his contribution was up there with Jovetic's.

If we ship him out please name a better player we might get who would be happy as a 3rd in line striker? (not that Edin is made up at being that)

Guidetti. Jovetic.

Jovetic might well be the man which is why I call Edin 3rd/4th but are you really saying Guidetti would do better than Edin?

Guidetti is the best player in the world because hes young and more importantly because he never ever plays for us.

If he started getting games ahead of Edin everyone would very quickly start calling for Dzeko back, in all likelihood. The main reason he isn't getting games is presumably because he isn't good enough, there isn't likely to be any other reason.

[Slim]

The abuse he takes on here is utterly bizarre. What a spoilt bunch we have become.

I don't know what part of your horrendous attempt at quoting was yours, so I just grabbed the last line and let's go from there.

Firstly, a spoilt bunch we have become? 15 years ago we'd be bitching about Edghill, 10 years ago it would have been Jordan, 5 years ago it was Benjani. City fans will always and have always had a bitch at one player in every squad. We haven't become anything, what have you become? We get money and you decide "sycophant" is the way to go?

As for Dzeko, I have always maintained he has the ability, he could well be the main striker at City and put Sergio into the supporting role. The problem is application. He find himself on the bench behind Negredo, not entirely unexpected considering he was the current manager's choice(Anyone who believes that Pellers didn't have final say over all Summer transfers including Fred, is a fucking idiot).

So he doesn't decide to see this as a challenge, work his bollocks off and force the issue, instead he puts in half-hearted performances and moans to the press. Whenever he does play the side tend to focus on him, Kolarov and Zabaleta come to the fore and if he was working his bollocks off, he'd have twice as many goals this season alone. He drifts to the backpost and allows three defenders to line up in front of him instead of making the hard run and getting to the front where he needs to be, then when it gets cut out by the keeper or cleared, he looks with exasperation at the crosser as if they should have done more to put it on a plate for him.

Most players improve when training with better players, but have you seen in 3 years any improvement in his hold up play, heading or first touch? He has had the ball coming at him at that pace every day for THREE FUCKING YEARS and he still fails to improve his baseline skills.

This is a player who will not succeed in any top side, I have no doubt that he would in a mid table side as the team would be built around him, a second striker to draw players off, quality wingers and fullbacks to put in crosses all day and a trailing midfielder to open space for him. However, we are a top side now and those sorts of luxuries are no longer ours to have. We have teams playing so deep you wonder if they are on the pitch or in the south stand, space and time aren't on the cards. He has the ability to work within this constraints, make no doubt about it. But the application of his talent is an insult to his teammates, the fans and the owners.

[Pretty Boy Lee]

I don't know what part of your horrendous attempt at quoting was yours, so I just grabbed the last line and let's go from there. Firstly, a spoilt bunch we have become? 15 years ago we'd be bitching about Edghill, 10 years ago it would have been Jordan, 5 years ago it was Benjani. City fans will always and have always had a bitch at one player in every squad. We haven't become anything, what have you become? We get money and you decide "sycophant" is the way to go? As for Dzeko, I have always maintained he has the ability, he could well be the main striker at City and put Sergio into the supporting role. The problem is application. He find himself on the bench behind Negredo, not entirely unexpected considering he was the current manager's choice(Anyone who believes that Pellers didn't have final say over all Summer transfers including Fred, is a fucking idiot). So he doesn't decide to see this as a challenge, work his bollocks off and force the issue, instead he puts in half-hearted performances and moans to the press. Whenever he does play the side tend to focus on him, Kolarov and Zabaleta come to the fore and if he was working his bollocks off, he'd have twice as many goals this season alone. He drifts to the backpost and allows three defenders to line up in front of him instead of making the hard run and getting to the front where he needs to be, then when it gets cut out by the keeper or cleared, he looks with exasperation at the crosser as if they should have done more to put it on a plate for him. Most players improve when training with better players, but have you seen in 3 years any improvement in his hold up play, heading or first touch? He has had the ball coming at him at that pace every day for THREE FUCKING YEARS and he still fails to improve his baseline skills. This is a player who will not succeed in any top side, I have no doubt that he would in a mid table side as the team would be built around him, a second striker to draw players off, quality wingers and fullbacks to put in crosses all day and a trailing midfielder to open space for him. However, we are a top side now and those sorts of luxuries are no longer ours to have. We have teams playing so deep you wonder if they are on the pitch or in the south stand, space and time aren't on the cards. He has the ability to work within this constraints, make no doubt about it. But the application of his talent is an insult to his teammates, the fans and the owners.

My thoughts on Dzeko, put it a lovely worded post. Thanks for connecting A to be B in a way ur never managed :)

[Dubaimancityfan]

The donkeys problem besides being lazy, terrible first touch and soft for a big lad is his finishing. The guy missed so many chances its embarrassing. Like someone else has said he should have over 70 by now.

He would easily have surpassed the 70 mark ( why 70 ?), if the players around him made the right choice instead of always going to Kun and Carlos, often in more difficult situations.

Or if Kun passed to him sometimes or at all !!

[Foreverinbluedreams]

It seems a bit churlish to be criticising him after his strike won us three points whilst notching his 50th goal for the club but there is a lack of application in his game, even The Goat agrees:

“Someone should put their arm around Edin and explain that the reason the fans don’t always get on with him is because his work rate needs to improve.

“In fact, you know what, I will go and tell him myself.

“In the early days I had similar problems with the City fans because they thought I was too laid back.

“But instead of taking it personally I was determined to rectify it and modelled myself on my team-mate Paul Dickov, who was the hardest-working player at the club.

“I followed him everywhere in training and it worked. In the old days a lot of us players attended supporters’ club meetings and took a lot of stick face-to-face, but at least we knew first-hand where the fans’ attitude towards us was coming from.”

[Mase]

He's alright Dzeko. People saying he's soft must mean his type of play because he's kicked off no problem on a few occasions with opposition players. I don't think he's scared of a scrap.

[Tesl]

List of the top ten scorers in the PL by minutes per goal:

http://i.imgur.com/ufMsTEm.jpg

He doesn't seem to be doing too badly for me.

[Slim]

List of the top ten scorers in the PL by minutes per goal:

http://i.imgur.com/ufMsTEm.jpg

He doesn't seem to be doing too badly for me.

I don't want a guy who is top 10 all time goals/minute, I want a player who is top 10 goals.

[Bridge'srightfoot]

List of the top ten scorers in the PL by minutes per goal:

http://i.imgur.com/ufMsTEm.jpg

He doesn't seem to be doing too badly for me.

I don't want a guy who is top 10 all time goals/minute, I want a player who is top 10 goals.

To be fair slim, people used the same measurement to laud and praise aguero. We can't say it doesn't count for dzeko.

[Slim]

List of the top ten scorers in the PL by minutes per goal:

http://i.imgur.com/ufMsTEm.jpg

He doesn't seem to be doing too badly for me.

I don't want a guy who is top 10 all time goals/minute, I want a player who is top 10 goals.

To be fair slim, people used the same measurement to laud and praise aguero. We can't say it doesn't count for dzeko.

I don't. I did notice that report though, and it was written by someone from the fucking Bleacher Report, I hardly think we should have given it any more thought than that.

[BlueinBosnia]

List of the top ten scorers in the PL by minutes per goal:

http://i.imgur.com/ufMsTEm.jpg

He doesn't seem to be doing too badly for me.

In fairness, Robbie Earnshaw was second on this list about 6 seasons ago...

[I Just Blue Myself]

I have had a think about it and to me he just seems too nice a bloke to be a striker and perhaps needs to be a bit nastier, if you see what I mean.

Maybe we should put in a bid for Mandzukic as soon as Lewandowski lands in Munich. Now there's a dirty, elbow throwing scumbag, who 'works hard' & scores the odd goal. Good header of the ball as well.

[Bridge'srightfoot]

When he scores the 95th minute winner at the Nou Camp to put us through to the quarter finals of the Champions League you'll all change your tune.

[Grimble101]

He needs to put a shift in he must see the beast n kun from the bench working there bollocks of every game it's that simple I'm not 1 for slagging city players of but he seems to be playing half hearted when he does get his chance

[Slim]

Yet, according to Pellegrini, even Hart conceded when the axe fell, he knew it was warranted.

"I did what I thought was best for the team and Joe Hart," said the City boss.

"At that moment, Joe needed the rest.

"Maybe he would not say it, but he agreed with me. He realised it."

The immediate reaction was to wonder whether Hart might agitate for a move away from the Etihad Stadium in order to preserve his England status ahead of the World Cup.

Instead, the 26-year-old redoubled his efforts and worked his way back into Pellegrini's favour.

Not that the Blues chief ever doubted that would be the eventual outcome.

"Maybe some other players would have reacted in a bad way but he always reacted in a very good way," said Pellegrini.

"That is why he has returned for us in very good form.

"He is the best goalkeeper in England, a goalkeeper for a big team and he makes important saves.

"That is normal for him and why he is the number one in England."

Show me this story for Dzeko.

[Tesl]

When he scores the 95th minute winner at the Nou Camp to put us through to the quarter finals of the Champions League you'll all change your tune.

He scored the equaliser against QPR when we won the league and everyone still hates him.

[Foreverinbluedreams]

The donkeys problem besides being lazy, terrible first touch and soft for a big lad is his finishing. The guy missed so many chances its embarrassing. Like someone else has said he should have over 70 by now.

He would easily have surpassed the 70 mark ( why 70 ?), if the players around him made the right choice instead of always going to Kun and Carlos, often in more difficult situations.

Or if Kun passed to him sometimes or at all !!

Which player has assisted ( passed the ball that led to a goal for Zuri ;) )most of his 50 goals? Yes you guessed it, it's none other than Aguero with 7 assists ( passes that led to goals for Zuri ;) ).

[Sideshow Bob]

When he scores the 95th minute winner at the Nou Camp to put us through to the quarter finals of the Champions League you'll all change your tune.

yes, a 95th min winner necessitated by the 35th min sitter he blasted into row z, by the 59th min 1 on 1 that he fluffed due to a shocking first touch, and the 72nd min ball across the 6 that he would have gotten to if he wasn't camped outside the 18.

[zuricity]

Which player has assisted ( passed the ball that led to a goal for Zuri ;) )most of his 50 goals? Yes you guessed it, it's none other than Aguero with 7 assists ( passes that led to goals for Zuri ;) ).

Well perhaps Kun could even supply more instead of being so selfish. Like Silva was in the first half on Saturday . My point is not with Kun, but the fact that other players opted for Kun and Carlos, often it seemed when Edin had an easier route to goal
Perhaps you could enlighten us and also tell us how many 'assists' Edin has for Kun .

[Ted Hughes]

I agree that they could set Dzeko up for more goals, & should do, but personally I think that the reason they don't, is that they don't rate him as highly as a player, as they rate each other. He isn't the players' first choice as striker either.

Part of that is down to his attitude I think.

If the Goat can see it, then other players can see it. It's not just fans seeing something which isn't there.

For the record, I don't have a criticism of his attitude in recent games, I think he's done ok & will be a real asset in the 2nd half of the season if he keeps it up. He will miss some, as he did Saturday, but he will score plenty. But I do think that a fully fit Guidetti would have scored goals in these games, so there is another potential problem for Edin if Guidetti does start to look the part; he is exactly the kind of 'heart & soul' player fans love. Best for Edin if Guidetti goes out on loan imo.