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Re: The Divide Between Fans

Postby CityFanFromRome » Sun Dec 20, 2009 11:19 am

King Kev wrote:Never before have I witnessed one person creating such a divide between City fans as hughes did. There never seemed to be a gray area where he was concerned, you were either with him (happy-clapper) or against him (hughes-hater) and the 2 camps were at each others throats from the start.

Of course we will always disagree on certain topics regarding our beloved club but I hope to never again witness the polarization caused by hughes' appointment.

Now can we all please learn to live with the fact that hughes has gone, get behind Mancini and work towards one common theme.

Thank you and Merry Christmas :o)

I wish it was like this but I already see signs of Hughes-backers turning into Mancini-haters...and of course the once Hughes-haters will feel the need to reply if that's the case (myself included, I have to admit).
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Re: The Divide Between Fans

Postby ant london » Sun Dec 20, 2009 11:26 am

CityFanFromRome wrote:I wish it was like this but I already see signs of Hughes-backers turning into Mancini-haters...and of course the once Hughes-haters will feel the need to reply if that's the case (myself included, I have to admit).



nah mate, if you think that you are way wide of the mark.

Indeed pretty much all of us who were vocally pro-Hughes have been explicit in our statements that we back Roberto 100%. I am excited about the future.

I feel no ill will towards the club for making a controversial change, to our incoming management team and certainly none towards the outgoing coaches.

Some of our fellow fans are the only ones I'm pissed off with, some of them I don't like much, others I think are great lads/posters but I have massive issues with their conduct. Even those people I won't feel that strongly towards as soon as the "Mancini era" is underway I should imagine. But for now, it is they who I have the issue with....certainly not Roberto Mancini
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Re: The Divide Between Fans

Postby CityFanFromRome » Sun Dec 20, 2009 11:33 am

ant london wrote:nah mate, if you think that you are way wide of the mark.

Indeed pretty much all of us who were vocally pro-Hughes have been explicit in our statements that we back Roberto 100%. I am excited about the future.

I hope I am!!
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Re: The Divide Between Fans

Postby ant london » Sun Dec 20, 2009 11:36 am

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ant london wrote:nah mate, if you think that you are way wide of the mark.

Indeed pretty much all of us who were vocally pro-Hughes have been explicit in our statements that we back Roberto 100%. I am excited about the future.

I hope I am!!



I can only speak for myself and take on face value what other blues who were supporting Hughes have told me but the people who supported Hughes were largely railing against those who had various points of view and agendas but who seemed hell bent on bringing about more instability and change

We are where we are now, I certainly have ZERO intention of doing exactly what I have been infuriated at others for doing over the last 18 months.

I'm going to carry on supporting Manchester City....through thick and thin
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Re: The Divide Between Fans

Postby patrickblue » Sun Dec 20, 2009 11:41 am

King Kev wrote:Never before have I witnessed one person creating such a divide between City fans as hughes did. There never seemed to be a gray area where he was concerned, you were either with him (happy-clapper) or against him (hughes-hater) and the 2 camps were at each others throats from the start.

Of course we will always disagree on certain topics regarding our beloved club but I hope to never again witness the polarization caused by hughes' appointment.

Now can we all please learn to live with the fact that hughes has gone, get behind Mancini and work towards one common theme.

Thank you and Merry Christmas :o)


Bloody hell KK, don't you remember the KK, SP and Sven divides. Joe Royle was the last manager who seemed to have most fans behind him, and that was because we were shit at the time and we knew we were. And what about the Hughes fence sitters of which there were a lot of, myself being one of them
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Re: The Divide Between Fans

Postby Blue Man Dan. » Sun Dec 20, 2009 11:41 am

King Kev wrote:Never before have I witnessed one person creating such a divide between City fans as hughes did. There never seemed to be a gray area where he was concerned, you were either with him (happy-clapper) or against him (hughes-hater) and the 2 camps were at each others throats from the start.

Of course we will always disagree on certain topics regarding our beloved club but I hope to never again witness the polarization caused by hughes' appointment.

Now can we all please learn to live with the fact that hughes has gone, get behind Mancini and work towards one common theme.

Thank you and Merry Christmas :o)



It was that "opinion" of being painted black or white and not being allowed a third option that is the reason i have only posted about 20 times in the last 9 months.
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Re: The Divide Between Fans

Postby Blue Man Dan. » Sun Dec 20, 2009 11:45 am

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MARKMAKAVELI wrote:KK you have missed our points entirely, just as most of the Hughes Out brigade did throughout the whole saga.

I'm done with this thread now, at least it's over.
No I haven't. It is you and the other happy-clappers who have deliberately missed the point of this whole thread and turned it into more petty arguments. I hope you are very proud.



Lee, you throw a baited hook in to water the fish will bite, its always been the same, this thread was ALWAYS going to create conflict. 4 years of posting here has made this obvious.
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Re: The Divide Between Fans

Postby King Kev » Sun Dec 20, 2009 11:47 am

Blue Man Dan. wrote:
King Kev wrote:Never before have I witnessed one person creating such a divide between City fans as hughes did. There never seemed to be a gray area where he was concerned, you were either with him (happy-clapper) or against him (hughes-hater) and the 2 camps were at each others throats from the start.

Of course we will always disagree on certain topics regarding our beloved club but I hope to never again witness the polarization caused by hughes' appointment.

Now can we all please learn to live with the fact that hughes has gone, get behind Mancini and work towards one common theme.

Thank you and Merry Christmas :o)



It was that "opinion" of being painted black or white and not being allowed a third option that is the reason i have only posted about 20 times in the last 9 months.
That was also the reason I chose to take a break from here mate. Even if you tried to post something neutral it would be turned into something 100% pro or 100% against Hughes. People weren't reading other people's opinions before reacting, they were reacting to what they assumed would be said in the post rather than what was actually said.

The whole point of this thread is that I want to see an end to all this and the in-fighting between us. Judging from the way this thread has turned out it seems I am going to be disappointed.
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Re: The Divide Between Fans

Postby lets all have a disco » Sun Dec 20, 2009 11:52 am

Ok,fuck this thread lock it or whatever.

My main question is,In the REAL world.


Who is buying the alcohol on Boxing Day when i will see my City friends in The Townley to wish them a merry christmas.
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Re: The Divide Between Fans

Postby King Kev » Sun Dec 20, 2009 11:57 am

lets all have a disco wrote:Who is buying the alcohol on Boxing Day when i will see my City friends in The Townley to wish them a merry christmas.
Me! If I can get near the fuclin bar this time.
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Re: The Divide Between Fans

Postby lets all have a disco » Sun Dec 20, 2009 11:58 am

King Kev wrote:
lets all have a disco wrote:Who is buying the alcohol on Boxing Day when i will see my City friends in The Townley to wish them a merry christmas.
Me! If I can get near the fuclin bar this time.


It wasnt bad we had a steady stream all afternoon,its not what you know.
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Re: The Divide Between Fans

Postby Socrates » Sun Dec 20, 2009 12:00 pm

ant london wrote:
CityFanFromRome wrote:
ant london wrote:nah mate, if you think that you are way wide of the mark.

Indeed pretty much all of us who were vocally pro-Hughes have been explicit in our statements that we back Roberto 100%. I am excited about the future.

I hope I am!!



I can only speak for myself and take on face value what other blues who were supporting Hughes have told me but the people who supported Hughes were largely railing against those who had various points of view and agendas but who seemed hell bent on bringing about more instability and change

We are where we are now, I certainly have ZERO intention of doing exactly what I have been infuriated at others for doing over the last 18 months.

I'm going to carry on supporting Manchester City....through thick and thin


I for one crave stability but you HAVE TO HAVE THE RIGHT PERSON FIRST. There was a very low percentage chance that that was ever going to be Mark Hughes. I wanted the best for the club and, at key times only -not all the time- actively campaigned for a change. There are no certainties with any appointment, but there are many managers out there with a much better percentage chance of success than Hughes. In terms of those percentage chances, Mancini was very close to the top of the list for many people, not least me, and those of us with an alternative vision of the club's future are understandably very happy this weekend. I'm allfor a new ere of peace mate but please stop this sanctimonious bullshit that your support for a failing incumbent made you a better fan! Some people had a different opinion of what was best for the club that they love, for you to deride that in the way that you do actually helps makes the differences in opinion turn into factional infighting amongst groups of blues. How is that in any way helpful to the club you profess to be a Class I supporter of?
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Re: The Divide Between Fans

Postby King Kev » Sun Dec 20, 2009 12:02 pm

lets all have a disco wrote:
King Kev wrote:
lets all have a disco wrote:Who is buying the alcohol on Boxing Day when i will see my City friends in The Townley to wish them a merry christmas.
Me! If I can get near the fuclin bar this time.


It wasnt bad we had a steady stream all afternoon,its not what you know.
Its who.
I plan to get to the pub a bit earlier on Saturday. I might just buy 20 pints in one go to avoid having to keep going back :o)
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Re: The Divide Between Fans

Postby CITYSTEVEDON » Sun Dec 20, 2009 12:04 pm

King Kev wrote:Never before have I witnessed one person creating such a divide between City fans as hughes did. There never seemed to be a gray area where he was concerned, you were either with him (happy-clapper) or against him (hughes-hater) and the 2 camps were at each others throats from the start.

Of course we will always disagree on certain topics regarding our beloved club but I hope to never again witness the polarization caused by hughes' appointment.

Now can we all please learn to live with the fact that hughes has gone, get behind Mancini and work towards one common theme.

Thank you and Merry Christmas :o)



hear hear kk. lets hope he can do the walk and get us to wembley and a top 4
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Re: The Divide Between Fans

Postby ant london » Sun Dec 20, 2009 12:11 pm

Socrates wrote:I'm all for a new ere of peace mate but please stop this sanctimonious bullshit that your support for a failing incumbent made you a better fan! Some people had a different opinion of what was best for the club that they love, for you to deride that in the way that you do actually helps makes the differences in opinion turn into factional infighting amongst groups of blues. How is that in any way helpful to the club you profess to be a Class I supporter of?


I don't disagree with you that it's not helpful and as LAHAD says I am more interested in the real world and how we all get on together for real as fans. I have no beef with anyone amongst those who I have argued on these subjects. I'd happily have a beer with all of them on Boxing day.

I just want to get back to us all supporting the club, that is all I have ever wanted
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Re: The Divide Between Fans

Postby mcfc1632 » Sun Dec 20, 2009 12:15 pm

King Kev wrote:Never before have I witnessed one person creating such a divide between City fans as hughes did. There never seemed to be a gray area where he was concerned, you were either with him (happy-clapper) or against him (hughes-hater) and the 2 camps were at each others throats from the start.

Of course we will always disagree on certain topics regarding our beloved club but I hope to never again witness the polarization caused by hughes' appointment.

Now can we all please learn to live with the fact that hughes has gone, get behind Mancini and work towards one common theme.

Thank you and Merry Christmas :o)



Well in the spirit of the intent behind this.....

Yes lets all get behind the new manager and push forward - there is nothing else CITY fans should do.

But I would pick you up on the '2 sides' argument which I think is largely wrong.

You clearly had the Hughes haters and they were often extreme - there will have been some out and out pro-Hughes people as well

But I am sure that there were a lot like me who were not particularly pro-Hughes - just pro-CITY and therefore willing to back our manager - which is what you are saying should happen now - perhaps the argument has been valid for the last 18 months

It has been (IMO) the anti-Hughes group's need to see things in such a polarized way that they just had to label everyone not of their persuasion as lickers or something similar...

Well I agree with you - decision has been made - lets all get behind the club and by extension the manager, but it is possible that if things to not go swimmingly it will be the long term CITY fans that will stay behind all aspects of the club and some of the people who have been so recently negative that will start to cause dissent - lets just hope we never have to find out
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Re: The Divide Between Fans

Postby Socrates » Sun Dec 20, 2009 12:18 pm

ant london wrote:
Socrates wrote:I'm all for a new ere of peace mate but please stop this sanctimonious bullshit that your support for a failing incumbent made you a better fan! Some people had a different opinion of what was best for the club that they love, for you to deride that in the way that you do actually helps makes the differences in opinion turn into factional infighting amongst groups of blues. How is that in any way helpful to the club you profess to be a Class I supporter of?


I don't disagree with you that it's not helpful and as LAHAD says I am more interested in the real world and how we all get on together for real as fans. I have no beef with anyone amongst those who I have argued on these subjects. I'd happily have a beer with all of them on Boxing day.

I just want to get back to us all supporting the club, that is all I have ever wanted


Good answer. Thank you. Me too. Especially as many of the more vocal Hughes-sceptics were in fact previously serial loyalists - the likes of myself, NQDp, KK all supported Sven, KK and Royle through thick and thin and Pearce up until very near the end. I too hope there will be more unity in the future.
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Re: The Divide Between Fans

Postby Burt » Sun Dec 20, 2009 12:19 pm

Interesting thread this IMO.

What I see is quite a lot of hurt coming out of a lot of our folks on here and I think that it's usually better out than in (see what I did there?).

There's been a few folks that are usually fairly moderate who have let out quite a bit of passion and that's what makes us special. We really do care about our club.

We all knew that it wasn't going to be easy having all this dough to throw about and there's been quite a transitional period where rightly or wrongly, Leslie was always going to be an easy target.

Hopefully we can kick on from here and start to heal a few long suffering wounds, starting by thrashing those devilworshipping bastards and winning our first pot since 76.

Now how nice would that be!
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Re: The Divide Between Fans

Postby mcfc1632 » Sun Dec 20, 2009 12:20 pm

lets all have a disco wrote:I'm with wall on this,the overiding sense of smugness for the Hughes out brigade is sickening.


Agreed - would it not have been equally appropriate when our owners said months ago that full backing should go behind the manager - then we on this site should have done that...... as a neutral I would suggest that the aggro came mainly (almost exclusively) from the anti-Hughes group - double standards

But what is done is done - lets get behind the new guy
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Re: The Divide Between Fans

Postby The Man In Blue » Sun Dec 20, 2009 12:45 pm

King Kev wrote:
MARKMAKAVELI wrote:KK you have missed our points entirely, just as most of the Hughes Out brigade did throughout the whole saga.

I'm done with this thread now, at least it's over.
No I haven't. It is you and the other happy-clappers who have deliberately missed the point of this whole thread and turned it into more petty arguments. I hope you are very proud.


what the fuck did you expect? it was a smug wum thread in the first place.

ffs we have been saying for months can we just get behind the boss and team but for this we are labelled "happy clappers" (a team of endearment i see you have reverted to again, what happened to the peace and love?), and now you have the temerity to rub it in our faces, pretend you are the peacemaker, and expect us not to react angrily?

get real.
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