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Postby dave watson's perm » Wed Dec 16, 2020 9:35 am

Surely a striker in January is a must now? Aguero, as much as I hate to say it, will be a bit part player this season and can no longer be relied on to string together a run of games. Whatever happened to Delap? I bet Klipperty would have stuck him on, if he'd even been on the bench that is. I just can't fathom why Pep can't/won't try something different to change a game when it's blatantly obvious to all that it isn't working anymore. And this is the guy who wants 5 subs ffs??
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Re: Things that Pep needs to sort out

Postby PeterParker » Wed Dec 16, 2020 10:11 am

Wooders wrote:
PeterParker wrote:It’s quite simple.
Everyone knows how we play, we offer nothing new. We play the same football, the difference is everyone knows what to expect now.

It’s begining to look like pep is a very limited manager.


We’re not playing the same - we’re playing with 2 holding midfielders and passing sideways an attacking with zero pace


We don't even changed the system, pal.
I genuine think Gundo can play the box to box role. Gundo, KDB and Bernie, no holding can be better than this shitshow.
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Re: Things that Pep needs to sort out

Postby s1ty m » Wed Dec 16, 2020 12:21 pm

This is the most useless and inept side since long before Hughes...at least that side had attacking players actually attacking. I won't be watching for a while, I need a break...VAR is ruinous, no crowds has totally warped games and, frankly, I'm fed up of watching players like that twunt Mendy and that twunt Cancelo immediately pass backwards when they receive the ball. I have rarely seen such pathetic, pointless shite on a pitch, at any level. Sterling...bloody hell the lad struggles to play football at times, maybe try athletics. Jesus, nope, just not a good footballer.

I find Rodri to be generally fucking useless and Mahrez needs a fucking major shoeing.

It is really troubling actively disliking so many players and even back in Div 3 (whatever it was) they were crap but tried and I would go and watch. This current side, just awful.

Pep needs to go, frankly. Amazing fall of a cliff. 2 years ago were won it all. He is terrible in the market, evidently.
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Re: Things that Pep needs to sort out

Postby carl_feedthegoat » Wed Dec 16, 2020 1:36 pm

Well , unless Baldie resigns then we are stuck with him. No doubt he will be given millions more to buy himself a forward in January ( Good luck with that) but for me the issue is not just a lack of a forward , its the whole playing style that's just sterile....we have even started to stop and pass sideways instead of ganging up on the defense - we all know what City are going to do and so does the opposition.


PeP needs to start playing players in their best natural positions - he has to stop with his shit tinkering as hes getting slated for it - some say Stones omission wouldn't have made any difference, as if the fuckign deflection would also have happened with him in the side YCMTSU by some fans !!!.

Finally Baldie gets the defense right and what does he do...he changes it !!! and before the pep apologists come out to say players need resting , PeP has said that wasn't the case for this match..he just decided that this team was the bets team to play on the day -- 100 % SHIT MANAGEMENT decision then.

As I said , we are fuckign stuck with him and unless he changes his management style then we will get nowhere with him ..............going on 2 seasons now and this is the worst season I can remember in donkeys years..............100,s of millions spent by PeP on utter SHIT....if we lose at Southampton he should tender his resignation.
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Re: Things that Pep needs to sort out

Postby stupot » Wed Dec 16, 2020 2:45 pm

carl_feedthegoat wrote:Well , unless Baldie resigns then we are stuck with him. No doubt he will be given millions more to buy himself a forward in January ( Good luck with that) but for me the issue is not just a lack of a forward , its the whole playing style that's just sterile....we have even started to stop and pass sideways instead of ganging up on the defense - we all know what City are going to do and so does the opposition.


PeP needs to start playing players in their best natural positions - he has to stop with his shit tinkering as hes getting slated for it - some say Stones omission wouldn't have made any difference, as if the fuckign deflection would also have happened with him in the side YCMTSU by some fans !!!.

Finally Baldie gets the defense right and what does he do...he changes it !!! and before the pep apologists come out to say players need resting , PeP has said that wasn't the case for this match..he just decided that this team was the bets team to play on the day -- 100 % SHIT MANAGEMENT decision then.

As I said , we are fuckign stuck with him and unless he changes his management style then we will get nowhere with him ..............going on 2 seasons now and this is the worst season I can remember in donkeys years..............100,s of millions spent by PeP on utter SHIT....if we lose at Southampton he should tender his resignation.

Carl, I've just given myself a smack in the face because part of your post i agree with but the Stones mention is absolute bollocks.
Dias didn't put a foot wrong yesterday again and like Kompany did he makes whoever plays alongside him look good. The only mistake i remember Ake making was when he slipped late on. The deflection was a freak incident, certainly nobody's fault.

I totally agree with you about the sterile, boring play and i can't see what he sees in playing Rodri with Gundogan. Rodri was terrible yesterday and for me should have gone off at half time with Foden going in the middle and Torres coming on.

Sterling shocking again and as i've said elsewhere the only time we scored a lot against Burnley , Sterling was on the bench. I felt for Kev and Gundo as they were the only ones who seemed to be trying to make things happen. Even Foden was in his shell and hardly contributed.
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Re: Things that Pep needs to sort out

Postby carl_feedthegoat » Wed Dec 16, 2020 2:49 pm

stupot wrote:
carl_feedthegoat wrote:Well , unless Baldie resigns then we are stuck with him. No doubt he will be given millions more to buy himself a forward in January ( Good luck with that) but for me the issue is not just a lack of a forward , its the whole playing style that's just sterile....we have even started to stop and pass sideways instead of ganging up on the defense - we all know what City are going to do and so does the opposition.


PeP needs to start playing players in their best natural positions - he has to stop with his shit tinkering as hes getting slated for it - some say Stones omission wouldn't have made any difference, as if the fuckign deflection would also have happened with him in the side YCMTSU by some fans !!!.

Finally Baldie gets the defense right and what does he do...he changes it !!! and before the pep apologists come out to say players need resting , PeP has said that wasn't the case for this match..he just decided that this team was the bets team to play on the day -- 100 % SHIT MANAGEMENT decision then.

As I said , we are fuckign stuck with him and unless he changes his management style then we will get nowhere with him ..............going on 2 seasons now and this is the worst season I can remember in donkeys years..............100,s of millions spent by PeP on utter SHIT....if we lose at Southampton he should tender his resignation.

Carl, I've just given myself a smack in the face because part of your post i agree with but the Stones mention is absolute bollocks.
Dias didn't put a foot wrong yesterday again and like Kompany did he makes whoever plays alongside him look good. The only mistake i remember Ake making was when he slipped late on. The deflection was a freak incident, certainly nobody's fault.

I totally agree with you about the sterile, boring play and i can't see what he sees in playing Rodri with Gundogan. Rodri was terrible yesterday and for me should have gone off at half time with Foden going in the middle and Torres coming on.

Sterling shocking again and as i've said elsewhere the only time we scored a lot against Burnley , Sterling was on the bench. I felt for Kev and Gundo as they were the only ones who seemed to be trying to make things happen. Even Foden was in his shell and hardly contributed.


My point about Stones was that our defense had not conceded in x amount of games and we were about to have the best record of not conceding since the prem was formed - PeP took stones out and we conceded - doesn't matter how it happened.

It was a criminal decision to break up a central pairing that was working like a dream.
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Re: Things that Pep needs to sort out

Postby Outcast » Wed Dec 16, 2020 3:46 pm

carl_feedthegoat wrote:
stupot wrote:
carl_feedthegoat wrote:Well , unless Baldie resigns then we are stuck with him. No doubt he will be given millions more to buy himself a forward in January ( Good luck with that) but for me the issue is not just a lack of a forward , its the whole playing style that's just sterile....we have even started to stop and pass sideways instead of ganging up on the defense - we all know what City are going to do and so does the opposition.


PeP needs to start playing players in their best natural positions - he has to stop with his shit tinkering as hes getting slated for it - some say Stones omission wouldn't have made any difference, as if the fuckign deflection would also have happened with him in the side YCMTSU by some fans !!!.

Finally Baldie gets the defense right and what does he do...he changes it !!! and before the pep apologists come out to say players need resting , PeP has said that wasn't the case for this match..he just decided that this team was the bets team to play on the day -- 100 % SHIT MANAGEMENT decision then.

As I said , we are fuckign stuck with him and unless he changes his management style then we will get nowhere with him ..............going on 2 seasons now and this is the worst season I can remember in donkeys years..............100,s of millions spent by PeP on utter SHIT....if we lose at Southampton he should tender his resignation.

Carl, I've just given myself a smack in the face because part of your post i agree with but the Stones mention is absolute bollocks.
Dias didn't put a foot wrong yesterday again and like Kompany did he makes whoever plays alongside him look good. The only mistake i remember Ake making was when he slipped late on. The deflection was a freak incident, certainly nobody's fault.

I totally agree with you about the sterile, boring play and i can't see what he sees in playing Rodri with Gundogan. Rodri was terrible yesterday and for me should have gone off at half time with Foden going in the middle and Torres coming on.

Sterling shocking again and as i've said elsewhere the only time we scored a lot against Burnley , Sterling was on the bench. I felt for Kev and Gundo as they were the only ones who seemed to be trying to make things happen. Even Foden was in his shell and hardly contributed.


My point about Stones was that our defense had not conceded in x amount of games and we were about to have the best record of not conceding since the prem was formed - PeP took stones out and we conceded - doesn't matter how it happened.

It was a criminal decision to break up a central pairing that was working like a dream.


I reckon Pep got a 'tinker' OCD, just can't help himself, he's been prescribed with two medications for it, one called 'pass sidways' the other 'pass backwards' to ease his symptom.
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Re: Things that Pep needs to sort out

Postby BrianF » Wed Dec 16, 2020 4:08 pm

It doesn't matter which players we use if we continue attacking at the pace of a glacier , we will always come up against a packed defence That tactic ia down to Pep. What a difference the last 10 minutes when we stepped up the pace ( too little , too late ). The lack of movement of players when we have possesion , it looks like they are following instructions to stay in their designated positions. Like someone said earlier it is very sterile.
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Re: Things that Pep needs to sort out

Postby dave watson's perm » Sat Dec 19, 2020 10:04 am

A rather depressing line from this morning's Telegraph:

"Pep Guardiola has insisted he will not be forced into the transfer market next month to solve Manchester City’s goal drought - but warned his players that they can forget about winning the title unless they put a run together soon..."

No self-awareness whatsoever there..........
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Re: Things that Pep needs to sort out

Postby s1ty m » Sat Dec 19, 2020 11:01 am

They could stopping this immediate passing the ball back when they receive it. The full backs and Mahrez do it all the time. Fine if you then make a run but they don't.
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Re: Things that Pep needs to sort out

Postby harveytravis » Sat Dec 19, 2020 11:09 am

REST RODRI

SIMPLES
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Re: Things that Pep needs to sort out

Postby Hazy2 » Sat Dec 19, 2020 12:33 pm

harveytravis wrote:REST RODRI

SIMPLES


Let us see if we can cope at least. Irrelevant if we lose and scousers who are lead8ng win 11 points we are done,
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Re: Things that Pep needs to sort out

Postby PeterParker » Sat Dec 19, 2020 4:56 pm

This is what you get when you think you are smarter than all other 19 managers, when you refuse to train set pieces, when you refuse to understand your issues and solve them, when you refuse to reinvent.

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Re: Things that Pep needs to sort out

Postby zuricity » Sat Dec 19, 2020 5:32 pm

PeterParker wrote:This is what you get when you think you are smarter than all other 19 managers, when you refuse to train set pieces, when you refuse to understand your issues and solve them, when you refuse to reinvent.

Sad days.



mmh! So tell us how Klopp has reinvented himself?

Klopp has always been a long ball specialist . Always was, at Mainz and BVB - nothing changed .
except he's drilled his players to cheat at every chance they get .

I must admit he did get some cracking teeth gromit.
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Re: Things that Pep needs to sort out

Postby PeterParker » Sat Dec 19, 2020 5:50 pm

zuricity wrote:
PeterParker wrote:This is what you get when you think you are smarter than all other 19 managers, when you refuse to train set pieces, when you refuse to understand your issues and solve them, when you refuse to reinvent.

Sad days.



mmh! So tell us how Klopp has reinvented himself?

Klopp has always been a long ball specialist . Always was, at Mainz and BVB - nothing changed .
except he's drilled his players to cheat at every chance they get .

I must admit he did get some cracking teeth gromit.


Why the hell do we care about Klopp?
He is not the issue here. He and his club. His club got away with murder.

The thread is things that Baldie needs to sort out, not Kloppy.
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Re: Things that Pep needs to sort out

Postby Beefymcfc » Sun Dec 20, 2020 12:07 am

I’ve heard some Blues have been saying Klopp is better than Pep because he’s won the CL. Can we confirm that the CL is better than a 100 point double as well as an English treble the following season?
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Re: Things that Pep needs to sort out

Postby zuricity » Sun Dec 20, 2020 6:48 am

PeterParker wrote:
zuricity wrote:
PeterParker wrote:This is what you get when you think you are smarter than all other 19 managers, when you refuse to train set pieces, when you refuse to understand your issues and solve them, when you refuse to reinvent.

Sad days.



mmh! So tell us how Klopp has reinvented himself?

Klopp has always been a long ball specialist . Always was, at Mainz and BVB - nothing changed .
except he's drilled his players to cheat at every chance they get .

I must admit he did get some cracking teeth gromit.


Why the hell do we care about Klopp?
He is not the issue here. He and his club. His club got away with murder.

The thread is things that Baldie needs to sort out, not Kloppy.


it was you that wrote he thinks he is smarter than 19 other managers !

Where is your evidence of this ?
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Re: Things that Pep needs to sort out

Postby ruralblue » Sun Dec 20, 2020 7:25 am

Keeping the ball to much in our own half and too slow charging forward. Teams have time to organise there lines and get the defence in shape. Sterling is also a huge problem going to the line.
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Re: Things that Pep needs to sort out

Postby PeterParker » Sun Dec 20, 2020 8:04 am

zuricity wrote:
PeterParker wrote:
zuricity wrote:
PeterParker wrote:This is what you get when you think you are smarter than all other 19 managers, when you refuse to train set pieces, when you refuse to understand your issues and solve them, when you refuse to reinvent.

Sad days.



mmh! So tell us how Klopp has reinvented himself?

Klopp has always been a long ball specialist . Always was, at Mainz and BVB - nothing changed .
except he's drilled his players to cheat at every chance they get .

I must admit he did get some cracking teeth gromit.


Why the hell do we care about Klopp?
He is not the issue here. He and his club. His club got away with murder.

The thread is things that Baldie needs to sort out, not Kloppy.


it was you that wrote he thinks he is smarter than 19 other managers !

Where is your evidence of this ?


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Re: Things that Pep needs to sort out

Postby CBEM » Sun Dec 20, 2020 11:23 am

Pep needs to put some of our players on shooting practice, Raz seems to be taking an age to unleash a shot and ends up running into traffic.
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