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by Niall Quinns Discopants » Sun Oct 16, 2016 5:08 pm
Beefymcfc wrote:I'm still scratching my head at Vinny becoming a striker. That was Pearce'esque from Pep.
And Nolito, why wasn't he on the pitch from the start. The guys been sat out for a few matches and I thought he'd be on, not subbed on.
Did you know that Vinny actually played all over the pitch for Anderlecht including some striker. He was actually holding midfielder originally and had just switched to CB when we signed him.
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by Mase » Sun Oct 16, 2016 5:48 pm
Niall Quinns Discopants wrote:Beefymcfc wrote:I'm still scratching my head at Vinny becoming a striker. That was Pearce'esque from Pep.
And Nolito, why wasn't he on the pitch from the start. The guys been sat out for a few matches and I thought he'd be on, not subbed on.
Did you know that Vinny actually played all over the pitch for Anderlecht including some striker. He was actually holding midfielder originally and had just switched to CB when we signed him.
Not true. He played defensive midfield for us initially and then moved to centre half
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by Niall Quinns Discopants » Sun Oct 16, 2016 5:59 pm
Mase wrote:Niall Quinns Discopants wrote:Beefymcfc wrote:I'm still scratching my head at Vinny becoming a striker. That was Pearce'esque from Pep.
And Nolito, why wasn't he on the pitch from the start. The guys been sat out for a few matches and I thought he'd be on, not subbed on.
Did you know that Vinny actually played all over the pitch for Anderlecht including some striker. He was actually holding midfielder originally and had just switched to CB when we signed him.
Not true. He played defensive midfield for us initially and then moved to centre half
Switchback. He was cb at Anderlecht and for Belgium already at the time.
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by Nigels Tackle » Sun Oct 16, 2016 6:04 pm
Niall Quinns Discopants wrote:Mase wrote:Niall Quinns Discopants wrote:Beefymcfc wrote:I'm still scratching my head at Vinny becoming a striker. That was Pearce'esque from Pep.
And Nolito, why wasn't he on the pitch from the start. The guys been sat out for a few matches and I thought he'd be on, not subbed on.
Did you know that Vinny actually played all over the pitch for Anderlecht including some striker. He was actually holding midfielder originally and had just switched to CB when we signed him.
Not true. He played defensive midfield for us initially and then moved to centre half
Switchback. He was cb at Anderlecht and for Belgium already at the time.
when we signed him from hamburg, he played as a defensive midfielder
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by Niall Quinns Discopants » Sun Oct 16, 2016 6:06 pm
Nigels Tackle wrote:Niall Quinns Discopants wrote:Mase wrote:Niall Quinns Discopants wrote:Beefymcfc wrote:I'm still scratching my head at Vinny becoming a striker. That was Pearce'esque from Pep.
And Nolito, why wasn't he on the pitch from the start. The guys been sat out for a few matches and I thought he'd be on, not subbed on.
Did you know that Vinny actually played all over the pitch for Anderlecht including some striker. He was actually holding midfielder originally and had just switched to CB when we signed him.
Not true. He played defensive midfield for us initially and then moved to centre half
Switchback. He was cb at Anderlecht and for Belgium already at the time.
when we signed him from hamburg, he played as a defensive midfielder
In Hamburg and in the end of his Anderlecht days he was playing CB.
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by Mikhail Chigorin » Sun Oct 16, 2016 8:12 pm
nottsblue wrote:I know. I was just generalising with the start to be fair. 13 games, 10 wins, 2 draws and just 1 defeat. I'd have taken that before the start of the campaign like a shot. I also would have thought it would have taken longer for us to adapt to a new style yet we seem to have really hit the ground running with almost every pundit and commentator praising our play to the nines.
Just wishing for three points each match day is sadly ingrained in my DNA from the many years of struggle and toil.
You're spot on with what you are saying NB.
I was just pulling your leg
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by littlebig » Mon Oct 17, 2016 5:25 pm
I'm very happy with Pep. He's taken firm control of the team which needed to happen. Tactically and as a coach he seems to be on another planet altogether. He's done #1 job as a manager: he's got his team performing above themselves.
If we continue to play as we did on Saturday then we will win vast majority of our games and most probably the league as well.
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by Hutch's Shoulder » Mon Oct 17, 2016 7:51 pm
I studied history at university, so from my point of view it is far too early to say. In 50 years I will be able to form an assessment.
For me, the jury is still out on Wilf Wild.
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by Tokyo Blue » Tue Oct 18, 2016 9:40 am
Hutch's Shoulder wrote:I studied history at university, so from my point of view it is far too early to say. In 50 years I will be able to form an assessment.
For me, the jury is still out on Wilf Wild.
LOL
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by Blue Since 76 » Tue Oct 18, 2016 10:05 pm
Well after the last few results, my jury is very much out and unless he beats Barca by a couple of clear goals tomorrow I'll have my Machin Ball Clark Pep out banner at the game on Sunday. Another dodgy result then and my sack the board banner is coming out.
He needs to remember that Big Sam is available, so it's not like we don't have options.
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by Mikhail Chigorin » Wed Oct 19, 2016 12:05 pm
Blue Since 76 wrote:Well after the last few results, my jury is very much out and unless he beats Barca by a couple of clear goals tomorrow I'll have my Machin Ball Clark Pep out banner at the game on Sunday. Another dodgy result then and my sack the board banner is coming out.
He needs to remember that Big Sam is available, so it's not like we don't have options.
Steady on chum, don't get carried away.
BFS is a nailed on certainty to go back to Sunderland; they love him there don't you know ??.
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by Niall Quinns Discopants » Thu Oct 20, 2016 2:37 pm
Original Dub wrote:Getting rid of hart was a "ridiculous" move?
How are you so sure about that?
I'm pretty sure it was a silly move.
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by Foreverinbluedreams » Thu Oct 20, 2016 2:42 pm
Niall Quinns Discopants wrote:Original Dub wrote:Getting rid of hart was a "ridiculous" move?
How are you so sure about that?
I'm pretty sure it was a silly move.
So what you reckon then, should Pep have adapted his whole style of play to suit Hart?
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by Cocacolajojo » Thu Oct 20, 2016 3:31 pm
Foreverinbluedreams wrote:Niall Quinns Discopants wrote:Original Dub wrote:Getting rid of hart was a "ridiculous" move?
How are you so sure about that?
I'm pretty sure it was a silly move.
So what you reckon then, should Pep have adapted his whole style of play to suit Hart?
Could've given hart a chance for a season as a second keeper behind bravo. If he doesn't adapt to pep's wishes then fine. I of course don't know if hart was offered this deal or not but I don't think so.
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by Foreverinbluedreams » Thu Oct 20, 2016 3:38 pm
Cocacolajojo wrote:Foreverinbluedreams wrote:Niall Quinns Discopants wrote:Original Dub wrote:Getting rid of hart was a "ridiculous" move?
How are you so sure about that?
I'm pretty sure it was a silly move.
So what you reckon then, should Pep have adapted his whole style of play to suit Hart?
Could've given hart a chance for a season as a second keeper behind bravo. If he doesn't adapt to pep's wishes then fine. I of course don't know if hart was offered this deal or not but I don't think so.
Old dogs new tricks mate, I don't think this was a viable option
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by Original Dub » Thu Oct 20, 2016 5:29 pm
Niall Quinns Discopants wrote:Original Dub wrote:Getting rid of hart was a "ridiculous" move?
How are you so sure about that?
I'm pretty sure it was a silly move.
Ah, so less sure than before.
Odd...
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by Niall Quinns Discopants » Fri Oct 21, 2016 11:17 am
Foreverinbluedreams wrote:Niall Quinns Discopants wrote:Original Dub wrote:Getting rid of hart was a "ridiculous" move?
How are you so sure about that?
I'm pretty sure it was a silly move.
So what you reckon then, should Pep have adapted his whole style of play to suit Hart?
Or perhaps coach Hart to fit his system. Hart is a world class shot stopper and probably best goalkeeper in the world in one-on-ones (in Pep's posession football this is pretty important). His only real weakness, and often wildly exaggarated one, is his passing. He has his system which I very much appreciate but every system can be tweaked and players can be coached.
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by Niall Quinns Discopants » Fri Oct 21, 2016 11:18 am
Original Dub wrote:Niall Quinns Discopants wrote:Original Dub wrote:Getting rid of hart was a "ridiculous" move?
How are you so sure about that?
I'm pretty sure it was a silly move.
Ah, so less sure than before.
Odd...
Terrible comeback. You have obviously become soft withno sparring partner.
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by Foreverinbluedreams » Fri Oct 21, 2016 11:25 am
Niall Quinns Discopants wrote:Foreverinbluedreams wrote:Niall Quinns Discopants wrote:Original Dub wrote:Getting rid of hart was a "ridiculous" move?
How are you so sure about that?
I'm pretty sure it was a silly move.
So what you reckon then, should Pep have adapted his whole style of play to suit Hart?
Or perhaps coach Hart to fit his system. Hart is a world class shot stopper and probably best goalkeeper in the world in one-on-ones (in Pep's posession football this is pretty important). His only real weakness, and often wildly exaggarated one, is his passing. He has his system which I very much appreciate but every system can be tweaked and players can be coached.
Have to admit I was more or less of the same opinion until watching Bravo. Having watched how proficient he is with the ball at his feet convinced me that this was the right move, he has the instincts of a footballer because he has played that way from a young age, Hart just doesn't have them instincts and whilst there may be a case of being able to coach him to come up to scratch in this regard there's also the risk of having such an influential player in our dressing room being upset potebtially leading to a negative atmosphere which could in turn undermine Guardiola.
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