Foreverinbluedreams wrote:iwasthere2012 wrote:Foreverinbluedreams wrote:iwasthere2012 wrote:Mase wrote:As a side, when I have a kid if some grown man whacks them before they're 16 i wouldn't just say 'hey what are you doing?' or something similar. People would be getting their noses bitten off and eyes gauged out. I'd happily take a hiding from 5+ blokes if someone whacks my kid.
I wouldn't be what you would call a fighter, but the same thing crossed my mind when I read the article/letter. I'm not saying it isn't true but there is a lot in it that seems strange to say the least. If it was my young lad I think I'd lose it.
You don't know how you'd react if you were in that situation, do you lose the plot and start swinging or do you try to get away as quick as you can because you're outnumbered and your instinct is to protect your kid? Impossible to say unless in that situation yourself.
That's very true and like I say, I'm not a fighter by instinct. I would be inclined to try to avoid trouble before occurs if at all possible. But assuming the father did that and he did tell his son to run, it would seem, maybe he took the right option. You can't tell from the detail given.
Like some have said previously, i would like to think I wouldn't put my son in that situation to start. I know it can happen regardless. But like Mase said, I think most fathers, no matter how level headed They may think they are, would probably lose it, seeing a forty year old man punch their kid. It mightn't be the wisest decision in every circumstance, but it does seem natural to me.
I was in a situation not too dissimilar when I was a kid, my uncle brought me and my cousin to a Bohs/Rovers game, I think we were both around 8 years old. The usual shit kicked off after the game and we got caught up in it, I got a bottle in the head which split me. My uncle's instinct wasn't to start fighting but to run to protect us, picked us both up, one under each arm and got the fuck out of there as quick as he could.
Like I said impossible to know how you'd react as it's down to instinct but I'm just glad my uncle's instinct that day was to get us out of there as quickly as possible. I guess he's not a hard cunt like Mase.
I don't think it's anything to do with being a hard cnut and you are probably letting other arguments between you get the better of you, by adding that in at the end. Each situation is different and in the scenario you've described above I'd like to think my instincts would be the exact same as your uncle's.
And before you get back on replying to FIBD, Mase. I've read other threads where you have candidly told us about your instincts when it comes to fighting now compared to when you were younger and what influenced you as you were growing through formative years. This isn't a lecture mate, I found you to be very open and fascinating at the same time. But with your wedding coming up and hopefully as you say kids somewhere down the line, I might just say that your instincts in situations of conflict may change again once children come along. You may find yourself (hopefully not) in a situation similar to any described above where you weigh up the pros and cons in a split second and find your instincts will pull you to whatever is safest for your kid. If that means running, believe me you will run.
I have no doubt that if any of us are backed into a corner regarding our kin, then anything goes. Like I said, seeing someone punch my young lad (13yrs old) would probably tip me over the edge in most situations. I'd like to think I'd have the savvy to nip it in the bud before it got there though.