CL form versus League form

[gillie]

It's like day and night and if the players are only really trying in the CL they can all fuck off out of the club imo.

[Moonchesteri]

That's exactly how it feels doesn't it. And I agree with you.

[sheblue]

I think this is a little bit of a myth. Yea sure we're trying to do better in it but what have we done exactly, we've been braten twice by juve and i fear PSG will tear us apart.

[Si the Lion]

The forms similar, Sevilla away good result but Juve stuffed us twice and we ain't beat anyone in top half of PL.

[iwasthere2012]

It's like day and night and if the players are only really trying in the CL they can all fuck off out of the club imo.

Honestly don't think we've been that great in the CL. Just better than in the PL. Lost to Juve and hadn't got the worst of groups compared to previous years.
Kiev away was done and dusted but we let them back into it before Yaya gave us the comfort of the third. A good result against a poor team, but that and the home match just showed that we can't put teams away when we are on top.
I fear we are in for further humiliation against PSG. If we do get by them somehow, then an even worse spanking awaits in the semi-final. It's only a matter of time before we really get shown up.

[Ray78]

.Pellegrini hasn't helped matters in micro managing the squad but injuries haven't helped us either in going for both competitions. What had saved Pellegrini from the earlier sack is winning a cup and getting into the group stages.

[Hazy2]

Judge us after PSG destroy us.

[Moonchesteri]

It's like day and night and if the players are only really trying in the CL they can all fuck off out of the club imo.

Honestly don't think we've been that great in the CL. Just better than in the PL. Lost to Juve and hadn't got the worst of groups compared to previous years.
Kiev away was done and dusted but we let them back into it before Yaya gave us the comfort of the third. A good result against a poor team, but that and the home match just showed that we can't put teams away when we are on top.
I fear we are in for further humiliation against PSG. If we do get by them somehow, then an even worse spanking awaits in the semi-final. It's only a matter of time before we really get shown up.

Not sure if gillie meant the same but it's not the form I am talking about its the effort.
In CL the players are giving their all on and off the ball. Silva going for headers against 2m tall defenders, players running back to get the defensive shape instead of this lazy jogging around we see in the Prem

[gillie]

It's like day and night and if the players are only really trying in the CL they can all fuck off out of the club imo.

Honestly don't think we've been that great in the CL. Just better than in the PL. Lost to Juve and hadn't got the worst of groups compared to previous years.
Kiev away was done and dusted but we let them back into it before Yaya gave us the comfort of the third. A good result against a poor team, but that and the home match just showed that we can't put teams away when we are on top.
I fear we are in for further humiliation against PSG. If we do get by them somehow, then an even worse spanking awaits in the semi-final. It's only a matter of time before we really get shown up.

Not sure if gillie meant the same but it's not the form I am talking about its the effort.
In CL the players are giving their all on and off the ball. Silva going for headers against 2m tall defenders, players running back to get the defensive shape instead of this lazy jogging around we see in the Prem

Exactly what I meant the effort for CL is embarrassingly obvious and the non effort for PL equally embarrassing.

[iwasthere2012]

It's like day and night and if the players are only really trying in the CL they can all fuck off out of the club imo.

Honestly don't think we've been that great in the CL. Just better than in the PL. Lost to Juve and hadn't got the worst of groups compared to previous years.
Kiev away was done and dusted but we let them back into it before Yaya gave us the comfort of the third. A good result against a poor team, but that and the home match just showed that we can't put teams away when we are on top.
I fear we are in for further humiliation against PSG. If we do get by them somehow, then an even worse spanking awaits in the semi-final. It's only a matter of time before we really get shown up.

Not sure if gillie meant the same but it's not the form I am talking about its the effort.
In CL the players are giving their all on and off the ball. Silva going for headers against 2m tall defenders, players running back to get the defensive shape instead of this lazy jogging around we see in the Prem

Exactly what I meant the effort for CL is embarrassingly obvious and the non effort for PL equally embarrassing.

Can't argue with that Michael.

[PrezIke]

We got out of jail with a few results in the group phase where we had to come from behind. Last game's performance was not exactly one of world beaters, even if it did the job. Sevilla away was one of the best of the season, but I'm not so sure I buy into the thinking that we care more about CL.

[Foreverinbluedreams]

We got out of jail with a few results in the group phase where we had to come from behind. Last game's performance was not exactly one of world beaters, even if it did the job. Sevilla away was one of the best of the season, but I'm not so sure I buy into the thinking that we care more about CL.

It could be argued the reason we got out of jail is because the attitude was right.

I tend to agree with Gillie here, there seems to be a lot more focus and effort in Europe than there is domestically.

[Dimples]

Effort and focus on CL is why I put my money down on City in the CL months back.
I think it has been obvious for months that CL was the focus - the late goals, away performances, etc...

For this team to have a chance in any competition you need effort, focus and
have a fit (and playing well) Joe, Vinny, YaYa, Silva, Kun and Brown supplemented by Sterling and Nasri.

We have have not got a prayer again'st PSG with Joe, Vinny, Sterling injured, Brown and Nasri not fully fit and Silva out of sorts.

In fairness if you took the equivalent 'spine' out of any team - they would not win much either.
With us this season when the 'spine' were playing - we were useless in the PL - due to lack of effort.
In every job in every walk of life - if people know mgmt changes are coming - productivity drops. That is a fact, human nature - football is no exception.

[PrezIke]

Just curious..:

Who are the players that are suspect?

[carl_feedthegoat]

Effort and focus on CL is why I put my money down on City in the CL months back.
I think it has been obvious for months that CL was the focus - the late goals, away performances, etc...

For this team to have a chance in any competition you need effort, focus and
have a fit (and playing well) Joe, Vinny, YaYa, Silva, Kun and Brown supplemented by Sterling and Nasri.

We have have not got a prayer again'st PSG with Joe, Vinny, Sterling injured, Brown and Nasri not fully fit and Silva out of sorts.

In fairness if you took the equivalent 'spine' out of any team - they would not win much either.
With us this season when the 'spine' were playing - we were useless in the PL - due to lack of effort.
In every job in every walk of life - if people know mgmt changes are coming - productivity drops. That is a fact, human nature - football is no exception.

Bayern Munich 8 points clear at the top of the Bundesliga.

[nottsblue]

Whether we focus more on the CL or the PL is surely down the top brass at the club. As fans we want to see the same application applied to all games, but in reality some games are deemed more important than others. It would appear Pellegrini has been briefed that the CL is more important and as such his team selections have shown that. One can only speculate on what he then briefs his players to do during the game in terms of tactics. My guess the focus is not on a high pressing game so as to try and conserve energy for the upcoming games. This then translates into the lethargic, limp and pedestrian performances that we are now all to accustomed too.

Pep will change this strategy.

[Nigels Tackle]

Whether we focus more on the CL or the PL is surely down the top brass at the club. As fans we want to see the same application applied to all games, but in reality some games are deemed more important than others. It would appear Pellegrini has been briefed that the CL is more important and as such his team selections have shown that. One can only speculate on what he then briefs his players to do during the game in terms of tactics. My guess the focus is not on a high pressing game so as to try and conserve energy for the upcoming games. This then translates into the lethargic, limp and pedestrian performances that we are now all to accustomed too.

Pep will change this strategy.

what a crock of shite
we have been bang average in the cl. we fluked top spot in the group stage and were lucky to draw kiev in the last 16. this group of players are the biggest bunch of cunts to have represented the club in years. fucking mercenaries

[carl_feedthegoat]

Whether we focus more on the CL or the PL is surely down the top brass at the club. As fans we want to see the same application applied to all games, but in reality some games are deemed more important than others. It would appear Pellegrini has been briefed that the CL is more important and as such his team selections have shown that. One can only speculate on what he then briefs his players to do during the game in terms of tactics. My guess the focus is not on a high pressing game so as to try and conserve energy for the upcoming games. This then translates into the lethargic, limp and pedestrian performances that we are now all to accustomed too.

Pep will change this strategy.

what a crock of shite
we have been bang average in the cl. we fluked top spot in the group stage and were lucky to draw kiev in the last 16. this group of players are the biggest bunch of cunts to have represented the club in years. fucking mercenaries

Hes fucking deluded.

The premiership is far more fuckign important than the bastard CL..always has and always will be.

[carl_feedthegoat]

Whether we focus more on the CL or the PL is surely down the top brass at the club. As fans we want to see the same application applied to all games, but in reality some games are deemed more important than others. It would appear Pellegrini has been briefed that the CL is more important and as such his team selections have shown that. One can only speculate on what he then briefs his players to do during the game in terms of tactics. My guess the focus is not on a high pressing game so as to try and conserve energy for the upcoming games. This then translates into the lethargic, limp and pedestrian performances that we are now all to accustomed too.

Pep will change this strategy.

what a crock of shite
we have been bang average in the cl. we fluked top spot in the group stage and were lucky to draw kiev in the last 16. this group of players are the biggest bunch of cunts to have represented the club in years. fucking mercenaries

Hes fucking deluded.

The premiership is far more fuckign important than the bastard CL..always has and always will be.
.

I forgot to add -

Its only important to be invovled in the fuckign CL competition......certainly not sacrifce the PL positions to try and win it for fucks sake !!

[nottsblue]

Whether we focus more on the CL or the PL is surely down the top brass at the club. As fans we want to see the same application applied to all games, but in reality some games are deemed more important than others. It would appear Pellegrini has been briefed that the CL is more important and as such his team selections have shown that. One can only speculate on what he then briefs his players to do during the game in terms of tactics. My guess the focus is not on a high pressing game so as to try and conserve energy for the upcoming games. This then translates into the lethargic, limp and pedestrian performances that we are now all to accustomed too.

Pep will change this strategy.

what a crock of shite
we have been bang average in the cl. we fluked top spot in the group stage and were lucky to draw kiev in the last 16. this group of players are the biggest bunch of cunts to have represented the club in years. fucking mercenaries

Hes fucking deluded.

The premiership is far more fuckign important than the bastard CL..always has and always will be.
.

I forgot to add -

Its only important to be invovled in the fuckign CL competition......certainly not sacrifce the PL positions to try and win it for fucks sake !!

I completely agree with this. I was in the minority who would have actually preferred the FA cup over the CL. However, the club appear to view CL success as a priority and it would seem from the performances and results in the PL that Pellegrini has had orders to prioritise.