*** spurs v city official match thread***

[Beefymcfc]

I agree with 'Arry, that back 4 will not win the PL, or anything else for that matter. But, that is not our first choice back 4, and then you put Hart into the fray with Zab's, Komp's, Manny and Cliché, you have a back 4 of substance.

That turned out to be a makeshift side and they took advantage, with the aid of some shocking cheating from certain officials.

[Beefymcfc]

We cannot keep blaming officials for everything. Sorry, so you all think we played well enough to win?

You are professionals and have to cope with it. It happens to every team. And i am not blind to how we are seen by our hating contingent.

I still believe we can bounce back but this is not easy to take given our capabilities.

No, I think we were awful from about 40th minute onwards, but I'm not suggesting we're somehow in the worst form of our lives and the manager should be under pressure.

We were without: Hart, Clichy, Mangala, Kompany, Zabaleta, Silva, Bony, Iheanacho and 98% of Aguero. Two goals were offside, one was appalling goalkeeping and I'm not sure how Lamella is onside when he started 20 yards off and the defender had to catch him up.

Did we deserve to lose, yes, but shit happens, every team loses and what happens next Saturday is what matters now.

No, we didn't deserve to lose to 3 very clearly offside goals and we would have had a possible draw, if the linesmen & ref hadn't clearly handed this match to the Spurs.
City's desire to play completely disappeared, after each of the offiside goals were allowed to stand. This level of ref & linesmen mistakes is completely unacceptable!!

The players knew they were purposely being cheated, after Demichelis was wrongly carded for repsectfully challenging all of Cheatinburg's wrong decisions.
Pellegrini has also risked a ban from the cheating PGMOL, by mentioning all the offiside goals, after being asked his opinion of them, in his post-match interviews.

What is the point of having FA rules, if they are NOT going to be fairly & evenly applied to City's opponents?!

Mistakes, I don't think those decisions were mistakes.

[Moonchesteri]

Ps kdb was barely, but still offsides on his goal.

A lot of people seem to ignore that

There's a distinct difference when there's a foot compared to a 2 yards.

Saying that, I wasn't confident at all when I heard the line-up. No team can give their best without the spine. It's not just the skill, it's more about the mental fortitude and experience.

so if walker had been only a foot offside that would've been okay?

I know that one call was shocking but isn't offside offside?

The further offside the player is, the easier it should be to spot. Do you disagree, mate?

Absolutely not and as I mentioned that one call especially was awful decision.

But IMO we can't/shouldn't have double standards. An offside is an offside, no? (Whoever scores)

[Peter Doherty (AGAIG)]

The thing is, the officials started this shit in the last game at home to West Ham, and will continue to do so as Pellegrini will say fuck all. He needs to speak out like Mancini did (to great effect, Mason was dropped for 2 of our last 5 games) otherwise this'll continue all season.

[Foreverinbluedreams]

Absolutely not and as I mentioned that one call especially was awful decision.

But IMO we can't/shouldn't have double standards. An offside is an offside, no? (Whoever scores)

It's not double standards to point out that one decision was marginal and so understandable where the other decision was farcical.

[WhyAlwaysMe?]

Mistakes, I don't think those decisions were mistakes.

You've summed up this situation perfectly & concisely.

The only mistake was letting Mark Clattenburg return to the PGMOL ref group, after he was sanctioned & dismissed... the ban should have been permanent!

[Beefymcfc]

Mistakes, I don't think those decisions were mistakes.

You've summed up this situation perfectly & concisely.

The only mistake was letting Mark Clattenburg return to the PGMOL ref group, after he was sanctioned & dismissed... the ban should have been permanent!

Again, difficult, especially when PiGMOL have him by the short and curlys. They could then use him when, and how, they choose. Now though, he has more credibility and, as could've been today, choose to order the lino's to ignore anything they seen.

Integrity in big money sport isnt great and the lino today looked as though he wanted extra expenses.

[Redna]

Spurs came on a lucky one. Scored more or less on everything whereas we couldn`t hit the famous country side building with a string instrument.
Injuries are a big issue though.
CTID

[WhyAlwaysMe?]

Mistakes, I don't think those decisions were mistakes.

You've summed up this situation perfectly & concisely.

The only mistake was letting Mark Clattenburg return to the PGMOL ref group, after he was sanctioned & dismissed... the ban should have been permanent!

Again, difficult, especially when PiGMOL have him by the short and curlys. They could then use him when, and how, they choose. Now though, he has more credibility and, as could've been today, choose to order the lino's to ignore anything they seen.

Integrity in big money sport isnt great and the lino today looked as though he wanted extra expenses.

Cheatingburg was dismissed for finanical reasons, which should have meant a permanent ban... Therefore, Clat's return to reffing should have been decided by the UK financial government, rather than "PiGMOL" (by the way, I applaud & quote your perfect version of their acronym!)

[Moonchesteri]

Absolutely not and as I mentioned that one call especially was awful decision.

But IMO we can't/shouldn't have double standards. An offside is an offside, no? (Whoever scores)

It's not double standards to point out that one decision was marginal and so understandable where the other decision was farcical.

No but it is imo a bit rich to complain about an offside goal against us and then completely ignore the fact our goal was offside too

[Moonchesteri]

Spurs came on a lucky one. Scored more or less on everything whereas we couldn`t hit the famous country side building with a string instrument.
Injuries are a big issue though.
CTID

That is a big issue too.

[Nigels Tackle]

fake result
like last week

[Foreverinbluedreams]

Absolutely not and as I mentioned that one call especially was awful decision.

But IMO we can't/shouldn't have double standards. An offside is an offside, no? (Whoever scores)

It's not double standards to point out that one decision was marginal and so understandable where the other decision was farcical.

No but it is imo a bit rich to complain about an offside goal against us and then completely ignore the fact our goal was offside too

Sorry, don't see it that way myself. Them marginal decisions happen all the time and I usually take the stance of what you lose on the swings etc. but that level of incompetence on their equaliser should not be tolerated and we've every right to complain.

Their third too, you can understand a linesman if he's trying to run the line whilst watching when the ball is played and where the attacker is, it's not easy but there's no excuses for not spotting Kane offside at a set piece. It was in fact really poor from Kane to be offside in that instance and yet he benefits from his poor play with a goal.

[walmai]

Lads, if you're going to go and get beaten by our muggy little neighbours a week after our game, it kind of takes some of the shine off our victory.

Bit selfish of you really...

[Beefymcfc]

Mistakes, I don't think those decisions were mistakes.

You've summed up this situation perfectly & concisely.

The only mistake was letting Mark Clattenburg return to the PGMOL ref group, after he was sanctioned & dismissed... the ban should have been permanent!

Again, difficult, especially when PiGMOL have him by the short and curlys. They could then use him when, and how, they choose. Now though, he has more credibility and, as could've been today, choose to order the lino's to ignore anything they seen.

Integrity in big money sport isnt great and the lino today looked as though he wanted extra expenses.

Cheatingburg was dismissed for finanical reasons, which should have meant a permanent ban... Therefore, Clat's return to reffing should have been decided by the UK financial government, rather than "PiGMOL" (by the way, I applaud & quote your perfect version of their acronym!)

Clattenburg's previous misdemeanours have been discussed on here in length and I don't think anybody could understand how he came back to referee. But he did and that's where we are.

Now, if you ask me the question of if I think ref's are told how to interpret certain games, then that's also well documented on here and I am still of the opinion that referee's dance to the Pipers tune, and that tune if whatever the PL/Sky want.

There is no way in this world that the lino made a mistake today, he seen exactly what was going on and from what I've seen, it's conclusive. The rest is down to interpretation but in my mind it's very simple.

[Beefymcfc]

Lads, if you're going to go and get beaten by our muggy little neighbours a week after our game, it kind of takes some of the shine off our victory.

Bit selfish of you really...

Cunt ;-)

[DoomMerchant]

WTF. Just back from a gamebwith the youth team I coach and see this result!?!

I knew it was gonna be a tough game, but 4-1?

Luckily I was on a 15 hour flight back home to Florida and missed all that. Reading through this thread is not really a tenth as bad as having had watched it so there's the bright side. I'll head over to the silver lining thread and bang that thought in there.

Cheers

[Sparklehorse]

I have no idea what the obsession with Navas is ? I'm not for one second suggesting he is to blame but I have no faith whatsoever in him delivering
We need to learn to manage games when we are in total control..... We are letting things slip time and time again.

[South Stand Balti]

I have no idea what the obsession with Navas is ? I'm not for one second suggesting he is to blame but I have no faith whatsoever in him delivering
We need to learn to manage games when we are in total control..... We are letting things slip time and time again.

Serious question. Don't you think Navas offers more than Sterling at the moment?

[Woodyblue]

Never seen so many shite decisions by officials saying that our keepers been pretty dire.
Its only oct plenty of time to get back on track

This. Keep positive lads. We are head and shoulders above anyone else in this league. Need Silva, Hart and Komps back though, quick.