PeterParker wrote:DoomMerchant wrote:PeterParker wrote:Mikhail Chigorin wrote:ruralblue wrote:We also need a general in the middle of the field. wonder if it would be better pushing Yaya further forward and Komps into Def mid. Would take some pressure off Komps and allow him to rally the troops in the middle of the park and give Yay as old legs less tracking back to do.
Very recently Doomie and myself were discussing this particular option as being something worth trying (starting with the next pre-season's games), just to see if it had any value or merit.
Didn't meet with universal approval though - in fact it didn't meet with much approval at all.
In one month, Vinnie will be 29 years old, at this stage it is almost impossible to change the profile of a player. That is not a solution, after all these years playing as a defender, he will need at least one year and a half to understand his new role. At first he will be very sloppy, he will be a target for many teams.
Move him there and he will be the most hated player on this forum.
absolute bollox. He's probably played more of his career since he started playing this game as a MF than a CB i would bet.
Move him up, move Yaya up if we won't sell...sell Nasri. Promote Denayer to Vince's spot. Try it the fuck out. Partner Yaya as a No 10 with a striker and let Dave keep roaming. Let Fernandinho partner Kompany and then add a Reus or Isco or Pogba....then we just need a fucking actual LB and we're laffing.
4-3-3, 4-4-2, 4-2-2-1-1, 4-2-3-1 fucking. whatever. you call it.
cheers
You can't do that and you know it. Let's say you do your job perfectly, in the last 3 years, you became one of the best workers on your spot in the world, now you have issues and your boss decides to put you where you were when you started working there. What impact would that have on you.
With others i am 100 % with you, Yaya has no spot in the middle, he needs to be up front. I would use Fernandinho - Fernando, then Silva, Yaya and Navas behind one striker. The problem is that, i see Sergio having problems as a poacher. He like it when there is one man in front of him.
The problem is that there is no right answer in this. We can play 4-4-2 or 4-2-3-1, the real issue is we must move Yaya from that spot. If we will keep using him there, we will keep on losing.
Speaking about Denayer, i had never seen him so far, what makes him good enough to be in our squad? Actually, did anyone remember a mistake Boyata did, beside that when he got sent off against Arse? He had decent games, but limited chances. The point is that we seem to have absolutely no strategy regarding our youth. We send players to fucksville, instead of loaning them at Premier teams or Championship one, where they can grow. Plus, we need a manager that will give them chances. Sadly, look at what eleven Pellers had in the FA and Capital one cup in the past year and a half.
All in all, no Vinnie in the middle and a box to box player that knows how to defend and ship Yaya to Paris or move him up.
Interesting points about Denyer and how we have treated our youth of late. I haven't seen him either other than what I read here and in the press, but I would think part of it is that he and the rest of our young talent are not good enough for the Premier League, or are young and speak no English that to throw them into a lower echelon English league will not suit them (i.e. Zucculini).
I get the sense that Denayer has a good shot at being on the team next year for some games. Playing on Celtic is not exactly a bad experience, as he also got Champions League and Europa League experience as a result.
In terms of the manager playing youth, I think that with the way we have set up our team with trying to have two "world class" players at each position, it would have been difficult to renege on promises made to those players who signed contracts with that understanding, and to bench them for a young player with less experience. Pellegrini is not so against that I think but had to continue playing what he had and who was better because winning has been the priority with so many experienced players.
I believe next season we will start to shift away from that approach further, partially due to FFP as well, focusing on buying TOP players rather than two very good ones, which will also allow some of our young players to get some chances.