Ted Hughes wrote:So it's likely either Berlusconi wants to sell up or they want investment, neither of which is much use on the football side, because of ffp, hence the wankers who asked for it to be brought in are being kneecapped by it & are asking for it to be changed.
I would love to see these fuckers go out of business, & those cunts at Inter to follow them.
blues2win wrote:The idea that debt needs to be taken into account is up and running and this directly threatens the rags. We're already running at a profit and will be generating ever larger sums in the years to come. FFP is something we can look at more and more in the rear view mirror.
Ted Hughes wrote:As regards City's future role re the cartel etc, I think we have been establishing closer contacts with all of the top European clubs through one way or another (even Rumenigge) & the latest was the Atleti chief being a guest at the weekend. I think we are gradually becoming accepted in Europe & they know we can create wealth.
I think our biggest enemies now (possibly always), are our neighbours & their cosy little clan of clubs which 'hate' each other but all do business together & support each other when it comes down to it. Teams & fans & managers may kick lumps out of each other, but it's not often Utd, Arsenal & Liverpool are poles apart on anything off the pitch. One of the most devious alliances you could ever imagine. Then you have the Russian gangster slithering around between them & others.
Regarding ffp; the court case is getting closer & surely when clubs who were the first ones asking for ffp, & involved in its inception, are asking for it to be changed, it must add a hell of a lot of weight to the legal argument that it is not the best legislation to achieve its stated purpose ?
If it wasn't for the level of bias & corruption football attracts, I wouldn't give it a cat in Hell's chance of surviving. But when football is involved, the normal rule of law seems at threat sometimes.
carl_feedthegoat wrote:Ted Hughes wrote:As regards City's future role re the cartel etc, I think we have been establishing closer contacts with all of the top European clubs through one way or another (even Rumenigge) & the latest was the Atleti chief being a guest at the weekend. I think we are gradually becoming accepted in Europe & they know we can create wealth.
I think our biggest enemies now (possibly always), are our neighbours & their cosy little clan of clubs which 'hate' each other but all do business together & support each other when it comes down to it. Teams & fans & managers may kick lumps out of each other, but it's not often Utd, Arsenal & Liverpool are poles apart on anything off the pitch. One of the most devious alliances you could ever imagine. Then you have the Russian gangster slithering around between them & others.
Regarding ffp; the court case is getting closer & surely when clubs who were the first ones asking for ffp, & involved in its inception, are asking for it to be changed, it must add a hell of a lot of weight to the legal argument that it is not the best legislation to achieve its stated purpose ?
If it wasn't for the level of bias & corruption football attracts, I wouldn't give it a cat in Hell's chance of surviving. But when football is involved, the normal rule of law seems at threat sometimes.
I'm so fucking happy that cunt clubs like Milan are in the shit - the board rooms across the globe must have had a fuckign cerebral melt down when they all jumped on the FFP bandwagon and now they regret it, well fuck them , we got pass the mine field and now its everyone else's fucking turn to suffer...why should they get a pass with FFP being kicked out of the courts???...no way , I want all other clubs to suffer , I want clubs who want to sell to stay in the non selling wilderness for a long time.I want pain and grief across the Milans of the world.
They spat at City and giggled under the fucking table , well who's laughing now you pieces of snot, that's right , we are you cunts !!
Suffer.
Ted Hughes wrote:As regards City's future role re the cartel etc, I think we have been establishing closer contacts with all of the top European clubs through one way or another (even Rumenigge) & the latest was the Atleti chief being a guest at the weekend. I think we are gradually becoming accepted in Europe & they know we can create wealth.
I think our biggest enemies now (possibly always), are our neighbours & their cosy little clan of clubs which 'hate' each other but all do business together & support each other when it comes down to it. Teams & fans & managers may kick lumps out of each other, but it's not often Utd, Arsenal & Liverpool are poles apart on anything off the pitch. One of the most devious alliances you could ever imagine. Then you have the Russian gangster slithering around between them & others.
Regarding ffp; the court case is getting closer & surely when clubs who were the first ones asking for ffp, & involved in its inception, are asking for it to be changed, it must add a hell of a lot of weight to the legal argument that it is not the best legislation to achieve its stated purpose ?
If it wasn't for the level of bias & corruption football attracts, I wouldn't give it a cat in Hell's chance of surviving. But when football is involved, the normal rule of law seems at threat sometimes.
Peter Doherty (AGAIG) wrote:Ted Hughes wrote:As regards City's future role re the cartel etc, I think we have been establishing closer contacts with all of the top European clubs through one way or another (even Rumenigge) & the latest was the Atleti chief being a guest at the weekend. I think we are gradually becoming accepted in Europe & they know we can create wealth.
I think our biggest enemies now (possibly always), are our neighbours & their cosy little clan of clubs which 'hate' each other but all do business together & support each other when it comes down to it. Teams & fans & managers may kick lumps out of each other, but it's not often Utd, Arsenal & Liverpool are poles apart on anything off the pitch. One of the most devious alliances you could ever imagine. Then you have the Russian gangster slithering around between them & others.
Regarding ffp; the court case is getting closer & surely when clubs who were the first ones asking for ffp, & involved in its inception, are asking for it to be changed, it must add a hell of a lot of weight to the legal argument that it is not the best legislation to achieve its stated purpose ?
If it wasn't for the level of bias & corruption football attracts, I wouldn't give it a cat in Hell's chance of surviving. But when football is involved, the normal rule of law seems at threat sometimes.
A mate knows someone who was an assistant to somebody high up the food-chain at the rags and was at secret meetings between the rags and arsenil in the late '90s in which the only thing discussed was business. The fuckers stealthily stiching-up the rest of us. I don't know if the dippers had any part in this but wouldn't be surprised if they did.
Ted Hughes wrote:I think it's the one area where City have fucked up.
We thought if we lay off spending on the biggest players for a couple of years, we would get through, but the bastards have fucked us over anyway. Meanwhile we missed out on players like Hazard & maybe we culd have pinched DiMaria last season too.
Meanwhile PSG have just totally fucking ignored it, signed whoever they wanted & got the same fine as us.
iwasthere2012 wrote:Ted Hughes wrote:I think it's the one area where City have fucked up.
We thought if we lay off spending on the biggest players for a couple of years, we would get through, but the bastards have fucked us over anyway. Meanwhile we missed out on players like Hazard & maybe we culd have pinched DiMaria last season too.
Meanwhile PSG have just totally fucking ignored it, signed whoever they wanted & got the same fine as us.
Not too well up on PSG set up by I really doubt that they have planned ahead like City. You are right in what you are saying but we can't win it every year anyway. If this is one of the years we don't and I'm still not convinced we won't, then you can argue very credibly with your logic above that this is the reason why, as much as anything else. It's a pinch. My thoughts are that, however infuriating it is as a fan, so what. The longer they rely on their present tactics to keep City at bay the worse it will be for them. Whether FFP falls or stays they are falling behind in the long term scheme of things, and that will not be sustainable for them.
City's real competitors in the future,I think, will be those that choose to adapt to a more modern business plan. We have the template the rest are only going to follow.
iwasthere2012 wrote:No argument there. But like I said, this is stalling for time. It's not exactly a long term plan.
carl_feedthegoat wrote:Ted Hughes wrote:As regards City's future role re the cartel etc, I think we have been establishing closer contacts with all of the top European clubs through one way or another (even Rumenigge) & the latest was the Atleti chief being a guest at the weekend. I think we are gradually becoming accepted in Europe & they know we can create wealth.
I think our biggest enemies now (possibly always), are our neighbours & their cosy little clan of clubs which 'hate' each other but all do business together & support each other when it comes down to it. Teams & fans & managers may kick lumps out of each other, but it's not often Utd, Arsenal & Liverpool are poles apart on anything off the pitch. One of the most devious alliances you could ever imagine. Then you have the Russian gangster slithering around between them & others.
Regarding ffp; the court case is getting closer & surely when clubs who were the first ones asking for ffp, & involved in its inception, are asking for it to be changed, it must add a hell of a lot of weight to the legal argument that it is not the best legislation to achieve its stated purpose ?
If it wasn't for the level of bias & corruption football attracts, I wouldn't give it a cat in Hell's chance of surviving. But when football is involved, the normal rule of law seems at threat sometimes.
I'm so fucking happy that cunt clubs like Milan are in the shit - the board rooms across the globe must have had a fuckign cerebral melt down when they all jumped on the FFP bandwagon and now they regret it, well fuck them , we got pass the mine field and now its everyone else's fucking turn to suffer...why should they get a pass with FFP being kicked out of the courts???...no way , I want all other clubs to suffer , I want clubs who want to sell to stay in the non selling wilderness for a long time.I want pain and grief across the Milans of the world.
They spat at City and giggled under the fucking table , well who's laughing now you pieces of snot, that's right , we are you cunts !!
Suffer.
Dameerto wrote:iwasthere2012 wrote:No argument there. But like I said, this is stalling for time. It's not exactly a long term plan.
Which is why all the main instigators of the English FFP spent heavily in the summer (in my opinion), it was very probably their last chance to get any kind of advantage over us.
Ted Hughes wrote:Dameerto wrote:iwasthere2012 wrote:No argument there. But like I said, this is stalling for time. It's not exactly a long term plan.
Which is why all the main instigators of the English FFP spent heavily in the summer (in my opinion), it was very probably their last chance to get any kind of advantage over us.
It's absolutely no coincidence that all of these wankers have been spending big in the last couple of years imo. It's a strategy.
It's also frightened them to death, that we're still here, as when they first hatched this plan, they would have thought ( like their mates in the media told them); City were just a 'toy'. Tell the owner he'll be prevented from spending & he'll pack it in.
They would never have thought in their worst nightmares that it would lead to a global, potentially multi billion quid empire being created.
So I fully expect to see more huge scale panic buying from Utd in particular, before we really start to kick on.
iwasthere2012 wrote:Ted Hughes wrote:Dameerto wrote:iwasthere2012 wrote:No argument there. But like I said, this is stalling for time. It's not exactly a long term plan.
Which is why all the main instigators of the English FFP spent heavily in the summer (in my opinion), it was very probably their last chance to get any kind of advantage over us.
It's absolutely no coincidence that all of these wankers have been spending big in the last couple of years imo. It's a strategy.
It's also frightened them to death, that we're still here, as when they first hatched this plan, they would have thought ( like their mates in the media told them); City were just a 'toy'. Tell the owner he'll be prevented from spending & he'll pack it in.
They would never have thought in their worst nightmares that it would lead to a global, potentially multi billion quid empire being created.
So I fully expect to see more huge scale panic buying from Utd in particular, before we really start to kick on.
Having them underestimate us was probably the biggest weapon in our arsenal (spits).
Stalling us is definitely their strategy but nothing I've seen from them has me convinced that they know what their next step is, should throwing money at the problem fail two years in a row. Forget what Neville says, nobody can say that City are not progressing. Regardless of whether we win this year or not. United
winning in the league in 2013 made them think they had seen us off. Our ship had sailed. Only they find out our ship had sailed out to meet the worldwide fleet that we are putting together.
Mikhail Chigorin wrote:iwasthere2012 wrote:Ted Hughes wrote:Dameerto wrote:iwasthere2012 wrote:No argument there. But like I said, this is stalling for time. It's not exactly a long term plan.
Which is why all the main instigators of the English FFP spent heavily in the summer (in my opinion), it was very probably their last chance to get any kind of advantage over us.
It's absolutely no coincidence that all of these wankers have been spending big in the last couple of years imo. It's a strategy.
It's also frightened them to death, that we're still here, as when they first hatched this plan, they would have thought ( like their mates in the media told them); City were just a 'toy'. Tell the owner he'll be prevented from spending & he'll pack it in.
They would never have thought in their worst nightmares that it would lead to a global, potentially multi billion quid empire being created.
So I fully expect to see more huge scale panic buying from Utd in particular, before we really start to kick on.
Having them underestimate us was probably the biggest weapon in our arsenal (spits).
Stalling us is definitely their strategy but nothing I've seen from them has me convinced that they know what their next step is, should throwing money at the problem fail two years in a row. Forget what Neville says, nobody can say that City are not progressing. Regardless of whether we win this year or not. United
winning in the league in 2013 made them think they had seen us off. Our ship had sailed. Only they find out our ship had sailed out to meet the worldwide fleet that we are putting together.
Nicely poetic, old chum and a very good way to describe the journey we have now embarked upon.
By the same criterion, a warning for the Scum (and all our other rivals, for that matter) could be found in the lyrics of the, now deceased, Irish songwriter Noel Brazil :- "Better keep your distance from this whale; better keep your boat from going astray....." (from his composition 'Columbus').
I must admit, I do like nautical references; the only ones I don't like are those garbled ones about seagulls following the trawler.
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