aaron bond wrote:Milner and Silva have literally just turned 29 and Yaya is 31.
I accept we need to start long-term planning, which the club will no doubt be doing, but no need to exaggerate the situation.
Im_Spartacus wrote:aaron bond wrote:Milner and Silva have literally just turned 29 and Yaya is 31.
I accept we need to start long-term planning, which the club will no doubt be doing, but no need to exaggerate the situation.
I agree with Lev, this does need to be dealt with carefully, as whilst it's not an imminent issue, we do have a glut of players, particularly in midfield who are reaching an age where we have to decide carefully about contracts etc.
I posted in the Milner thread about the ages in our midfield come the end of the season:
Silva - 29
Toure - 32
Navas - 29
Milner - 29
Fernandinho - 30
Nasri - 28
Fernando - 28
I expect that the club's plan is to replace one of these each year to ensure we don't have a situation in a couple of years time where we have to replace the entire midfield like United did.
Milner may make that choice for us this year, and I would expect Navas to be at risk also if we are genuinely interested in this lascette it he may also leave this summer whilst we can command a transfer fee for him. If Pogba or Barkley come in, that may signal the sale of fernandinho or toure.
i doubt that anyone in the club is aware of this
we should tell them asap
dazby wrote:They can all play until they are 40 now so it's not that big an issue.
I expect the jaw to move on though. I also expect Jojo and Edin to be shifted if Bono is a hit.
Ted Hughes wrote:I don't think it's an accident that we have signed one or two older players in recent years.
I think it's deliberate, so that the next version of the team will see younger players brought through next to older, experienced, title winning, players.
By the time most of the older ones have gone, they will have players alongside them who are younger, but also now experienced in winning stuff; that's the plan anyway, I recon.
But imo, the Count should be starting that now, by testing one or two of our best kids in games like Newcastle & Sheff Wed. No need to loan them out next season if they have 'something' already. Just play them as part of the squad. At this rate all of them will have to go out on loan, because we know nothing about them at first team level. Daft imo. Some may be almost ready by next season, if we start them off now.
Edit: missed the 'o' out of Count for a second there! No offence intended.
iwasthere2012 wrote:Ted Hughes wrote:I don't think it's an accident that we have signed one or two older players in recent years.
I think it's deliberate, so that the next version of the team will see younger players brought through next to older, experienced, title winning, players.
By the time most of the older ones have gone, they will have players alongside them who are younger, but also now experienced in winning stuff; that's the plan anyway, I recon.
But imo, the Count should be starting that now, by testing one or two of our best kids in games like Newcastle & Sheff Wed. No need to loan them out next season if they have 'something' already. Just play them as part of the squad. At this rate all of them will have to go out on loan, because we know nothing about them at first team level. Daft imo. Some may be almost ready by next season, if we start them off now.
Edit: missed the 'o' out of Count for a second there! No offence intended.
I fully agree with your analysis Ted. Do you think that this would have started this year had it not been for the restrictions placed on the squad?
Foreverinbluedreams wrote:Im_Spartacus wrote:aaron bond wrote:Milner and Silva have literally just turned 29 and Yaya is 31.
I accept we need to start long-term planning, which the club will no doubt be doing, but no need to exaggerate the situation.
I agree with Lev, this does need to be dealt with carefully, as whilst it's not an imminent issue, we do have a glut of players, particularly in midfield who are reaching an age where we have to decide carefully about contracts etc.
I posted in the Milner thread about the ages in our midfield come the end of the season:
Silva - 29
Toure - 32
Navas - 29
Milner - 29
Fernandinho - 30
Nasri - 28
Fernando - 28
I expect that the club's plan is to replace one of these each year to ensure we don't have a situation in a couple of years time where we have to replace the entire midfield like United did.
Milner may make that choice for us this year, and I would expect Navas to be at risk also if we are genuinely interested in this lascette it he may also leave this summer whilst we can command a transfer fee for him. If Pogba or Barkley come in, that may signal the sale of fernandinho or toure.
Sorry to be pedantic but Nando and Nasri's birthdays fall during the summer so won't be that age at season's end.
I fully believe that Txiki put a succession plan in place when he started and purposely bought for the present with an eye on leaving the door open for the kids to step up.
john@staustell wrote:Alan Hansen was actually right - you need a team of mature footballers. That RAG season was the exception which proved the rule.
This season should be the optimum one for this squad, after which it will start to break up/change.
The striker situation obviously needed a bit of a spanner to it. Now that has been done we should fully kick on and get stronger as Chelsea - as usual - get weaker.
After that we just 'evolve'! With our new cash from Cameroon telecomms, Chinese lottery pundits and gas companies etc
Slim wrote:john@staustell wrote:Alan Hansen was actually right - you need a team of mature footballers. That RAG season was the exception which proved the rule.
This season should be the optimum one for this squad, after which it will start to break up/change.
The striker situation obviously needed a bit of a spanner to it. Now that has been done we should fully kick on and get stronger as Chelsea - as usual - get weaker.
After that we just 'evolve'! With our new cash from Cameroon telecomms, Chinese lottery pundits and gas companies etc
I won't get in to how badly you and everyone else on the planet misuses the phrase "the exception that proves the rule".
But you are still wrong, everyone is acting like Bacon played 11 kids and won the lot. He had the most expensive squad in England and it allowed him the luxury of adding kids to that. And while Giggs played a full season in 92-93, Ratface, Butt and Spiceboy played a combined total of 1 league appearance as a sub in their inaugural season. Chuckle2 wasn't even added to the first team list, well thank god he won with kids.
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