Clowncrete wrote:I don't understand why he is at fault for the first goal. He forced the attacker to a narrow angle. If Willy hadn't done a Hart vs Stoke, than the score would've remained 0-0.
Jon London wrote:He is the weakest link at the moment and should be taken out of the firing line. Both West Ham and Newcastle's 1st goals exploited his inability to turn and defend at pace by playing balls behind him. I thought he was supposed to be quick but Aarons skinned him. The Rags especially with Di Maria operating on the right will profit unless Pellegrini fixes it in the next few days. We might have to play 5 at the back if Mangala plays to stop the balls on the floor behind him. Our big pitch whilst normally an advantage for us could be a big plus for the Rags on Sunday. I think we will see a big head to head on Sunday both literally and metaphorically with Pellegrini vs Van Gaal and Pellegrini needs to be on top of his game including getting his substitutions spot on not like the mess ups in recent weeks. Also would like to see the ball boys be as good as they were versus Roma especially if we are searching for a goal with the clock ticking.
Foreverinbluedreams wrote:Jon London wrote:He is the weakest link at the moment and should be taken out of the firing line. Both West Ham and Newcastle's 1st goals exploited his inability to turn and defend at pace by playing balls behind him. I thought he was supposed to be quick but Aarons skinned him. The Rags especially with Di Maria operating on the right will profit unless Pellegrini fixes it in the next few days. We might have to play 5 at the back if Mangala plays to stop the balls on the floor behind him. Our big pitch whilst normally an advantage for us could be a big plus for the Rags on Sunday. I think we will see a big head to head on Sunday both literally and metaphorically with Pellegrini vs Van Gaal and Pellegrini needs to be on top of his game including getting his substitutions spot on not like the mess ups in recent weeks. Also would like to see the ball boys be as good as they were versus Roma especially if we are searching for a goal with the clock ticking.
Aarons skinned him because Mangala was caught on his heels whilst Aarons was running on to the ball, it wasn't due to a lack of pace.
DoomMerchant wrote:i must be the only one who has reasonable expectations about the Mangler. I think he's going to be fantastic, and despite putting an odd foot here or there, and being a bit unlucky or rash at times, i think he's had a decent start to what is a tough shift into Prem life.
I think he'll be fine and he and vincent will be an awesome pairing, sooner rather than later.
This guy is NOT your Savic/Nasti type player. A level above that for sure. That should be obvious for all to see i would hope.
cheers
Jon London wrote:Foreverinbluedreams wrote:Jon London wrote:He is the weakest link at the moment and should be taken out of the firing line. Both West Ham and Newcastle's 1st goals exploited his inability to turn and defend at pace by playing balls behind him. I thought he was supposed to be quick but Aarons skinned him. The Rags especially with Di Maria operating on the right will profit unless Pellegrini fixes it in the next few days. We might have to play 5 at the back if Mangala plays to stop the balls on the floor behind him. Our big pitch whilst normally an advantage for us could be a big plus for the Rags on Sunday. I think we will see a big head to head on Sunday both literally and metaphorically with Pellegrini vs Van Gaal and Pellegrini needs to be on top of his game including getting his substitutions spot on not like the mess ups in recent weeks. Also would like to see the ball boys be as good as they were versus Roma especially if we are searching for a goal with the clock ticking.
Aarons skinned him because Mangala was caught on his heels whilst Aarons was running on to the ball, it wasn't due to a lack of pace.
Exactly my point. Should you expect that from a £32M defender? Slow mental agility and slow to turn at the moment but hes only young. We don't have 6 games to let him bed in. We could be out of the Champions League and the Title race with just the Europa Cup and FA Cup to go for. Both Allardyce and Pardew targeted him - do you not think Van Gaal and the other stella managers will not do the same?
phips wrote:i know Newcastle were basically toothless today but he did look better today
mr_nool wrote:The build up game is so much easier for the CB's with Yaya on the pitch. He's been dropping deep in between them all game, basically limiting them to simple sidewards passes to him.
sheblue wrote:phips wrote:i know Newcastle were basically toothless today but he did look better today
Had nothing much to do.
Spurge wrote:Mangala is the centre half we've been heavily linked with - he and Fernando almost joined us in the last transfer window from Porto. Fernando was suspended for this so thought I'd tune in and keep an eye on Mangala.
Tonight was the first chance I've had to watch him and he was up against Sevillia in the Europa league q/f.
Sevillia ran out 4-1 winners on the night led 3-0 at h-t and despite a red card for Coke in the second half added a fourth for which Mangala was culpable. Caught totally out of position and ball watching - proper school boy stuff. I have to say for a big strong lad he looked pretty hopeless all night. I'm not wanting to judge him on one game and certainly trust our scouts so hopefully tonight was a blip particularly as we are talking big money - he made Demi look like a top quality defender!
Quaresma looked like an interesting proposition for Porto - didn't play particularly well but you could see he is a bit of a talent. Hit a terrific consolation for Porto right at the death.
Sevillia - terrific fans, what an atmosphere they created!
Spurge wrote:Spurge wrote:Mangala is the centre half we've been heavily linked with - he and Fernando almost joined us in the last transfer window from Porto. Fernando was suspended for this so thought I'd tune in and keep an eye on Mangala.
Tonight was the first chance I've had to watch him and he was up against Sevillia in the Europa league q/f.
Sevillia ran out 4-1 winners on the night led 3-0 at h-t and despite a red card for Coke in the second half added a fourth for which Mangala was culpable. Caught totally out of position and ball watching - proper school boy stuff. I have to say for a big strong lad he looked pretty hopeless all night. I'm not wanting to judge him on one game and certainly trust our scouts so hopefully tonight was a blip particularly as we are talking big money - he made Demi look like a top quality defender!
Quaresma looked like an interesting proposition for Porto - didn't play particularly well but you could see he is a bit of a talent. Hit a terrific consolation for Porto right at the death.
Sevillia - terrific fans, what an atmosphere they created!
I see Quaresma banged in a couple for Porto v Bayern last night
Return to The Maine Football forum
Users browsing this forum: Bluemoon4610, blues2win, Dubciteh, East Coast Blue, gmercer1, Google [Bot], Indianablue, Majestic-12 [Bot], MIAMCFC, Nigels Tackle, Outcast, salford city, stupot and 852 guests