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mr_nool wrote:Although perhaps not being applicable to the BVB situation, there is quite a clear pattern in German football of clubs going all out to compete with Bayern - and sometimes even bagging a title or two - before inevitably dropping down the league table and battling relegation.
It happened to Dortmund before, ending in them almost going out of business, but it also happened to Hamburg, Leverkusen, Hoffenheim, Wolfsburg, Schalke, Werder, etc. and going back even further to Kaiserslautern, Mönchengladbach and Köln.
Beefymcfc wrote:mr_nool wrote:Although perhaps not being applicable to the BVB situation, there is quite a clear pattern in German football of clubs going all out to compete with Bayern - and sometimes even bagging a title or two - before inevitably dropping down the league table and battling relegation.
It happened to Dortmund before, ending in them almost going out of business, but it also happened to Hamburg, Leverkusen, Hoffenheim, Wolfsburg, Schalke, Werder, etc. and going back even further to Kaiserslautern, Mönchengladbach and Köln.
That seems a bit too coincidental. I know Bayern corner other clubs players but from what you're saying they have actually cornered the Bundesliga and hold all the aces when they are challenged.
mr_nool wrote:Beefymcfc wrote:mr_nool wrote:Although perhaps not being applicable to the BVB situation, there is quite a clear pattern in German football of clubs going all out to compete with Bayern - and sometimes even bagging a title or two - before inevitably dropping down the league table and battling relegation.
It happened to Dortmund before, ending in them almost going out of business, but it also happened to Hamburg, Leverkusen, Hoffenheim, Wolfsburg, Schalke, Werder, etc. and going back even further to Kaiserslautern, Mönchengladbach and Köln.
That seems a bit too coincidental. I know Bayern corner other clubs players but from what you're saying they have actually cornered the Bundesliga and hold all the aces when they are challenged.
I don't think there is any foul play. It's just the stark reality. It's impossible to compete with Bayern in the long run, so a few clubs put all their eggs in one basket to enjoy a season or two at the top and then fall back into obscurity.
You have a similar pattern, although less clear, in Spain, where the third club behind Barca and Real is constantly changing (Valencia, Villareal, Bilbao, Sevilla). However, Atletico have now done well for a longer than what is usually the case.
mr_nool wrote:mr_nool wrote:Beefymcfc wrote:mr_nool wrote:Although perhaps not being applicable to the BVB situation, there is quite a clear pattern in German football of clubs going all out to compete with Bayern - and sometimes even bagging a title or two - before inevitably dropping down the league table and battling relegation.
It happened to Dortmund before, ending in them almost going out of business, but it also happened to Hamburg, Leverkusen, Hoffenheim, Wolfsburg, Schalke, Werder, etc. and going back even further to Kaiserslautern, Mönchengladbach and Köln.
That seems a bit too coincidental. I know Bayern corner other clubs players but from what you're saying they have actually cornered the Bundesliga and hold all the aces when they are challenged.
I don't think there is any foul play. It's just the stark reality. It's impossible to compete with Bayern in the long run, so a few clubs put all their eggs in one basket to enjoy a season or two at the top and then fall back into obscurity.
You have a similar pattern, although less clear, in Spain, where the third club behind Barca and Real is constantly changing (Valencia, Villareal, Bilbao, Sevilla). However, Atletico have now done well for a longer than what is usually the case.
Oh, and you have the same trend in the Dutch league. PSV and AJAX are constants at the top (although with an occasional horror season), but the clubs chasing them change every few years. The last ten years it's been Herenveen, then AZ, then Twente ...
Beefymcfc wrote:No mate, I wasn't saying that there was anything dodgy but I hear so many people saying that the Bundesliga is the place to be when it's the exact opposite. How can some class it as the best league when the reality is that there is only one winner? To a certain extent you could say the same of most leagues but at least with ours there's always been a chance for other clubs to take something, and even moreso now we've opened it up even more, but compared to the Bundesliga we're are almost wide open from top to bottom.
What amazes me is that a team can tap up a player, wait until he's out of contract, and then pick him up for fuck all without anything being said.
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