Beefymcfc wrote:We've had many instances of rule changes lately, from the inception of FFP in the Premier & Champions League to a bottle of white foam that gets on players toes, but the last 2 that have been proposed from the Chairman of the FA and the Chief Exec of the PFA seem to be going to extremes that may upset the make-up of the PL.
Greg Dyke is talking about not giving work permits to non-EU members to encourage the growth of 'Home-Grown Players' and Taylor is now saying that we need to have at least 4 home-grown players in the starting 11. Now, don't get me wrong, I'm all up for a better England team but surely this isn't the answer and the question should be asked of the FA and their grass roots policy, especially as we have a vastly inferior number of badged coaches compared to the other major players, mainly due to the cost.
And on a similar note, a few mentioned how the Rags, Arse and Dippers were buying up all the best English talent around. Did they know something the rest didn't; is it them who are pushing for this in the background?
Slim wrote:I am all for a move towards homegrown British players being given a quota in squads. A gradual shift towards this would make the most sense being that there are few clubs who could afford to revamp their squad to that level in a single transfer window. The problem is we already pay a huge premium on players from England, only have to look at Luke Shaw for the proof of that.
Nigels Tackle wrote:Slim wrote:I am all for a move towards homegrown British players being given a quota in squads. A gradual shift towards this would make the most sense being that there are few clubs who could afford to revamp their squad to that level in a single transfer window. The problem is we already pay a huge premium on players from England, only have to look at Luke Shaw for the proof of that.
£ for lb they got a good deal for shaw
Lev Bronstein wrote:Every club would fill their squads with home grown players if a simple problem could be solved: in the main they aren't value for money. Or to put it another way, you can get a better player for the same, or less money. Quotas would just make the problem worse. The demand, and therefore the price, for home grown players would increase without any corresponding increase in quality. And by quality I don't mean just football ability. We've all seen promising young players who've reached a plateau, or even gone into decline because they have the wrong attitude.
One of the arguements in favour of quotas is that young players who play in the first team would be able to develop. Somehow, the influx of foreign players are taking the place of home grown players thus stunting their progress. On the surface, there seems some truth in this. Once you reach a certain level, you need to be promoted to improve yourself, if you don't get that chance you stagnate. But, I've seen loads of young players "been given their chance", most fall by the wayside: and we've seen a few at City.
To take an example, Adam Johnson was given his chance. He did some good things, scored some great and important goals, but wasn't consistently good enough to warrant a starting place. If Adam Johnson has failed to live up to his promise it isn't through lack of opportunity. Scott Sinclair just couldn't hack it. On the other hand Joe Hart and James Milner have earned their place in the squad by what they've done on the field.
There on people on here who are better qualified than I to say if there has been any youth player over the last 10 years, or longer, who was denied the chance to move into the first team because of lack of opportunity, rather than not being good enough. (I suppose Daniel Sturridge, but he was desperate to move, so I won't count him).
Football fans in this country pay a lot of money to watch a game: too much, too many segments of the population are being priced out of the game. If I pay to go to a match I want to see the best the club can get. Because of the premium paid for home grown players, the price might have to go up for no improvement in football quality.
The only way for young English/British players to reach the required standard is to make them compete, and succeed against the best. Improve coaching down to under 10 football, instil the right values in players and do away with quotas.
Beefymcfc wrote:Greg Dyke is talking about not giving work permits to non-EU members to encourage the growth of 'Home-Grown Players' and Taylor is now saying that we need to have at least 4 home-grown players in the starting 11.
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