Beefymcfc wrote:Original Dub wrote:It's definitely starting.
Masquerading as the saviours of football, Gill, Platini are here to rid us of the demon blatter.
It's exactly as I imagined it as soon as Gill started to worm into uefa.
Sickening.
To be fair mate, Gill and Van Praag only said what needed to be said. Blatter has polluted the FIFA poison even more than it was and even under the current curcumstances he decides that he wants to be re-elected?
Under normal conditions, surely there would be no possible way that he would get the backing from the rest of the members but as we know these aren't normal conditions, these are Blatter's conditions. By the very fact that he has stated he wants to run again clearly says that he has already laid the groundwork to get re-elected and probably used every means to get there.
I'd prefer to see Blatter gone to be honest.
mcfc1632 wrote:Beefymcfc wrote:Original Dub wrote:It's definitely starting.
Masquerading as the saviours of football, Gill, Platini are here to rid us of the demon blatter.
It's exactly as I imagined it as soon as Gill started to worm into uefa.
Sickening.
To be fair mate, Gill and Van Praag only said what needed to be said. Blatter has polluted the FIFA poison even more than it was and even under the current curcumstances he decides that he wants to be re-elected?
Under normal conditions, surely there would be no possible way that he would get the backing from the rest of the members but as we know these aren't normal conditions, these are Blatter's conditions. By the very fact that he has stated he wants to run again clearly says that he has already laid the groundwork to get re-elected and probably used every means to get there.
I'd prefer to see Blatter gone to be honest.
Fully agree - as all football loving and decent minded people must, but...............
at the risk of seeming paranoid I just wonder if all this is bringing into the light a carefully orchestrated plan by a number of self-serving people (the core of the ECA where the real power lies) to simply take over football.
We have seen a number from that cohort - including Gill - move into positions of influence/control with the timing convenient for changes at the top of football . Could there be a an agreed plan to install their puppet into Blatter's position whilst putting one of their own into the UeFA role - along with control of all the key functions?
Conspiracy theorist/paranoid? or could (perversely) Blatter, albeit IMO an amoral and corrupt narcissist, be a blocker to this group? - hence the concerted attacks to make sure that all the moves can happen to schedule in 2015.
Cit.revenge wrote:Duckman wrote:[youtube]DlJEt2KU33I[/youtube]
Hahahah, what a rip on FIFA .
Ted Hughes wrote:Being realistic, the only way Blatter & his cronies were/are ever going to be brought down, was by conflicting self interest between his mob & another football mob.
If the Gwhatever clubs were all happy that Blatter's corrupt actions suited them, they would just plead ignorance & let him get on with it, as they have so far. The only people who give a shit have been the occasional journo & disgruntled World Cup bidders.
Recently, he's got into conflict with the big European clubs by not sorting out the insurance, increasing the powers of international teams & also by threatening to fuck up everyone's seasons to get into step for Qatar in the winter. He has also pissed off the governments of several countries. They have a common cause to get rid & an opportunity for the cartel to build more influence.
The upside, however you look at it, is that governments & their agents are investigating this, & the eventual outcome must be a more transparent authority, whoever runs it.
Wonderwall wrote:Ted Hughes wrote:Being realistic, the only way Blatter & his cronies were/are ever going to be brought down, was by conflicting self interest between his mob & another football mob.
If the Gwhatever clubs were all happy that Blatter's corrupt actions suited them, they would just plead ignorance & let him get on with it, as they have so far. The only people who give a shit have been the occasional journo & disgruntled World Cup bidders.
Recently, he's got into conflict with the big European clubs by not sorting out the insurance, increasing the powers of international teams & also by threatening to fuck up everyone's seasons to get into step for Qatar in the winter. He has also pissed off the governments of several countries. They have a common cause to get rid & an opportunity for the cartel to build more influence.
The upside, however you look at it, is that governments & their agents are investigating this, & the eventual outcome must be a more transparent authority, whoever runs it.
Best thing Blatter ever did was get Qatar the WC. It will totally backfire on him, as this is the cause of most of the angst against him with the disruption it will cause plus the backhanded way it happened. IF he had chose the USA and then announced he was going to run for office again, he might well have got in again.
Wonderwall wrote: Best thing Blatter ever did was get Qatar the WC. It will totally backfire on him, as this is the cause of most of the angst against him with the disruption it will cause plus the backhanded way it happened. IF he had chose the USA and then announced he was going to run for office again, he might well have got in again.
FIFA president Sepp Blatter has proposed that managers be allowed to challenge referee decisions during games.
Blatter, speaking in Sao Paulo at FIFA's annual congress, suggested that bosses could be given two challenges per match.
He told delegates: "We could do something more on the field of play. Why don't we give team managers the possibility of two challenges for refereeing during the match?
"If the manager disagrees with a decision why should he not ask for an immediate TV review with the referee?"
Blatter has previously claimed that goal-line technology would be the only camera review of decisions he would support, but the Swiss appears to have changed his mind in suggesting a system that is already used in sports like American football, baseball and tennis.
Such a change to football's rules would require the backing of the International Football Association Board (IFAB), the game's lawmaker, and would take at least 18 months to ratify.
Blatter had earlier been forced to defend himself after his decision to seek re-election for a fifth term as FIFA president was roundly criticised by UEFA officials at a meeting on Tuesday.
http://www.espnfc.us/story/1874250/fifa ... s-per-game
john68 wrote:Sparty, I am no fan of Blatter Mate but the preamble in your post was just pure conjecture. Do you have any idea why England and our FA have little support on the World's global football stage, nor have had since the 1960s, when Sir Stanley Rous was ousted from the top job at FiFA. Have you asked yourself; why only now, are the English based media going for his throat in a concerted campaign against him. We have known about this corruption for many years. Why the English based media correctly reported the vehemently negative reception Blatter recieved when meeting the European delegates but failed to report the applause Blatter got at almost all the other regional Associations. Like it or lump it, whatever we in England or Europe may think and as corrupt as Blatter may be, he still retains the support of the majority.
nottsblue wrote:I hope FIFA don't get into trouble with the Antartica 2026 bid
Im_Spartacus wrote:john68 wrote:Sparty, I am no fan of Blatter Mate but the preamble in your post was just pure conjecture. Do you have any idea why England and our FA have little support on the World's global football stage, nor have had since the 1960s, when Sir Stanley Rous was ousted from the top job at FiFA. Have you asked yourself; why only now, are the English based media going for his throat in a concerted campaign against him. We have known about this corruption for many years. Why the English based media correctly reported the vehemently negative reception Blatter recieved when meeting the European delegates but failed to report the applause Blatter got at almost all the other regional Associations. Like it or lump it, whatever we in England or Europe may think and as corrupt as Blatter may be, he still retains the support of the majority.
There is a weight of evidence around the tactics of blatter over his time in charge relating to programs of FIFA investment into developing nations, in return for which, Blatter commands total loyalty from the voting heads of those countries FAs. This has been documented several times, but perhaps in most detail by Andrew Jenkins (I think that's his name) in his book, "Foul"
In contrast to the excellent points you make about the influence of the ECA on Uefa policy, the one association/one vote policy at FIFA whilst appearing to outwardly be as transparent and fair as it can be, becomes a massive breeding ground for corruption and vote buying when many of the lesser nations' loyalties can be bought through investment in their countries footballing infrastructure.
For that reason, Uefa members have a very small bloc of the votes so even if all of them got together and ganged up on Blatter in a vote, they would still only constitute around 25% of votes, nowhere near enough to knock him off his perch when the majority behave in the way reported by the guardian in the article above.
If I recall correctly, the same sort of thing happened with an earlier presidential election - a uefa member spoke up (I think in favour of Leonart johansen and claiming lack if transparency - it might even have been Jim Boyce) and was heckled off the stage by the entire African and concacaf contingent. The whole afternoon schedule was then amended to only allow those with effusive praise for Blatter to speak for the remainder of the day to suppress dissent to those in the media observing.
No conjecture involved, these are reported facts and is exactly how blatter holds on to his power.
Until people start to vote with their conscience rather than voting based on the threat of losing funding controlled by blatter, the mess will continue.
That's why blatter knows he is bomb proof - he even metioned it yesterday when talking about 'we have the budget for the next 4 years'
Ted Hughes wrote: The difference between the situation now, & in the past, is that he fucked over several governments at once, when the obviously corrupt bidding for two world cups was done at the same time. Since then, they have been after him. It's not just journos now, it's actual countries' law enforcement agencies (& no doubt any others which are useful) who are after him. At the same time, the G14 are up in arms about his proposals for the future. The stuff I've read over the last few days suggests that a few votes from Africa are unlikely to be enough. Especially if the blokes who do the voting all end up in prison somewhere.
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