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Postby Benjay » Sun Jun 08, 2014 3:15 pm

Do not rate Pepe - especially at that price. Am hoping this is just lazy journalism as we were linked to him last year. Rather have MDM playing than Pepe.
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Postby Risby » Sun Jun 08, 2014 3:20 pm

Risby wrote:Just read that we are in for Pepe again. £25 million sounds ridiculous for a 31 year old. In a couple of years we will spending that again on another CB. I know it's difficult to get top class players, but I'd rather see us spend £35-£45 million on a quality player that will be around for a while than an ageing one for 10 million less that will be in and out for the duration of his stay.
Benjay wrote:Do not rate Pepe - especially at that price. Am hoping this is just lazy journalism as we were linked to him last year. Rather have MDM playing than Pepe.

Let's hope you are right because this just sounds stupid. With all the FFP crap that has gone on and PSG in the shit after their 50 mill buy, we don't want to go wasting money on old has-bins.
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Postby Beefymcfc » Sun Jun 08, 2014 3:26 pm

Risby wrote:Just read that we are in for Pepe again. £25 million sounds ridiculous for a 31 year old. In a couple of years we will spending that again on another CB.
I know it's difficult to get top class players, but I'd rather see us spend £35-£45 million on a quality player that will be around for a while than an ageing one for 10 million less that will be in and out for the duration of his stay.

Sounds ridiculous because that's what it is.
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Postby phips » Sun Jun 08, 2014 3:56 pm

any other CB targets that we've been linked to aside from Marquinhos, Mangala, Benatia, and now Pepe?
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Postby South Stand Balti » Sun Jun 08, 2014 4:07 pm

phips wrote:any other CB targets that we've been linked to aside from Marquinhos, Mangala, Benatia, and now Pepe?

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Postby blues2win » Sun Jun 08, 2014 4:28 pm

Shakhtar Donetsk are in danger of complete implosion as a result of being in the middle of a war zone with no obvious end in site. They have a bunch of Brasilians who may well want out and could come cheap. One is a small winger Bernard whose agent is trying to get his contract cancelled. A suggestion from the agent that we might be interested.
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Postby Scatman » Sun Jun 08, 2014 6:10 pm

blues2win wrote:Shakhtar Donetsk are in danger of complete implosion as a result of being in the middle of a war zone with no obvious end in site. They have a bunch of Brasilians who may well want out and could come cheap. One is a small winger Bernard whose agent is trying to get his contract cancelled. A suggestion from the agent that we might be interested.


I've watched Bernard a few times. Not tough enough for England. He'll need to do some Manning up before he starts.
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Postby blues2win » Sun Jun 08, 2014 6:45 pm

Shakhtar is owned by a fabulously wealthy oligarch so they don't need to sell. The problem is that they play in the Ukrainian League and it looks impossible for them to continue to do so in the autumn located as they are in the middle of the self proclaimed Dpnbass Republic. The owner supported the pro Russian speaking political party but wants a United Ukraine which is completely opposed by the new self appointed leaders of Donetsk. There is fighting going on very close to Donetsk and it's not clear how the situation can be resolved peacefully. His business interests could now be threatened. I can't see anyone wanting to travel there for CL matches even though they are Champions of the Ukraine. It's a terrible situation and you could imagine all the expensive Brasilians imports wanting out. Without being cruel we should be looking at the situation carefully for possible bargains. We won't be the only ones.

I know nothing about Bernard apart from the fact that he's small fast and skilful but you may well be right that he might be too slight to prosper in our a League. We've got Navas too so unless he payed as a right footer on the left it's not obvious that we need him.
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Postby halnone » Sun Jun 08, 2014 6:48 pm

Scatman wrote:
blues2win wrote:Shakhtar Donetsk are in danger of complete implosion as a result of being in the middle of a war zone with no obvious end in site. They have a bunch of Brasilians who may well want out and could come cheap. One is a small winger Bernard whose agent is trying to get his contract cancelled. A suggestion from the agent that we might be interested.


I've watched Bernard a few times. Not tough enough for England. He'll need to do some Manning up before he starts.


True, but I wouldn't mind seeing him here. Great pace and dribbling and lots of potential.
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Postby Scatman » Sun Jun 08, 2014 7:19 pm

blues2win wrote:Shakhtar Donetsk are in danger of complete implosion as a result of being in the middle of a war zone with no obvious end in site. They have a bunch of Brasilians who may well want out and could come cheap. One is a small winger Bernard whose agent is trying to get his contract cancelled. A suggestion from the agent that we might be interested.


I've watched Bernard a few times. Not tough enough for England. He'll need to do some Manning up before he starts.
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Postby Green & Blue » Sun Jun 08, 2014 7:34 pm

Scatman wrote: I've watched Bernard a few times. Not tough enough for England. He'll need to do some Manning up before he starts.


I have to agree he's not strong enough at this stage.Exciting player all the same he has great pace and ability on the ball.
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Postby Scatman » Sun Jun 08, 2014 7:44 pm

Green & Blue wrote:
Scatman wrote: I've watched Bernard a few times. Not tough enough for England. He'll need to do some Manning up before he starts.


I have to agree he's not strong enough at this stage.Exciting player all the same he has great pace and ability on the ball.


Maybe we could buy him now and send him on loan somewhere until next Sumner?
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Postby Scatman » Sun Jun 08, 2014 7:44 pm

Green & Blue wrote:
Scatman wrote: I've watched Bernard a few times. Not tough enough for England. He'll need to do some Manning up before he starts.


I have to agree he's not strong enough at this stage.Exciting player all the same he has great pace and ability on the ball.


Maybe we could buy him now and send him on loan somewhere until next Sumner?
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Postby Green & Blue » Sun Jun 08, 2014 7:48 pm

Scatman wrote: Maybe we could buy him now and send him on loan somewhere until next Sumner?
I think he'd be worth looking at.Only 21 I think.
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Postby blues2win » Sun Jun 08, 2014 8:08 pm

Sagna's playing in Lille tonight for the national team. They must be leaving for Brasil tomorrow or the next day. If he 's going to sign before the World Cup he has to pass a medical tomorrow surely.
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Postby Blue Since 76 » Sun Jun 08, 2014 8:25 pm

blues2win wrote:Sagna's playing in Lille tonight for the national team. They must be leaving for Brasil tomorrow or the next day. If he 's going to sign before the World Cup he has to pass a medical tomorrow surely.


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Postby sheikh it all about » Sun Jun 08, 2014 8:41 pm

Scatman wrote: I've watched Bernard a few times. Not tough enough for England. He'll need to do some Manning up before he starts.


Well I enjoyed your little aside. :-)
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Postby phips » Sun Jun 08, 2014 11:38 pm

blues2win wrote:Shakhtar Donetsk are in danger of complete implosion as a result of being in the middle of a war zone with no obvious end in site. They have a bunch of Brasilians who may well want out and could come cheap. One is a small winger Bernard whose agent is trying to get his contract cancelled. A suggestion from the agent that we might be interested.

if we're talking about Shakhtar surely its all about Taison
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Postby blues2win » Mon Jun 09, 2014 12:59 pm

Martin Blackburn northern football correspondent of the Sun had the following takes:

Fernando to sign this week but we'll keep Garcia

Sagna no official word till July 1 when Arsenal contract ends but it's done. Possible that Sagna may make it public beforehand. (If a contract hasn't been signed what happens if a Sagna has a serious injury at the WC though?).

Mangala deal cooled. Benatia alternative. Believes we have a plan C but doesn't know what it is. Doubts Pepe.
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Postby Wonderwall » Mon Jun 09, 2014 2:43 pm

[tweet]476005303386140674[/tweet]

if your on the app, the tweet is Tancredi Palmeri who is a credible source saying we have bid €38m (euros) for Benatia today
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