Goaters 103 wrote:Oh god "smacks head in hands." A transfer ban isnt a potential sanction, as per the FFP rules. That Telegraph report is a work of fiction.
Beefymcfc wrote: They said we'd fail on this and put PSG in a bigger bracket but failed to mention any of the other deals that are out there. When you look at some of the deals in the Prem, with the Rags and Dippers having huge sponsorship, much greater than ours, then you'd think they'd feel the need to put it into context.
Wooders wrote:Beefymcfc wrote: They said we'd fail on this and put PSG in a bigger bracket but failed to mention any of the other deals that are out there. When you look at some of the deals in the Prem, with the Rags and Dippers having huge sponsorship, much greater than ours, then you'd think they'd feel the need to put it into context.
Trouble is Beef is that it is not the size of the deal but the nature of it which is being looked at - they believe that Etihad/quatari sponsors have direct links with the owners of the club and they have deemed that an ffp back door
Wooders wrote:Beefymcfc wrote: They said we'd fail on this and put PSG in a bigger bracket but failed to mention any of the other deals that are out there. When you look at some of the deals in the Prem, with the Rags and Dippers having huge sponsorship, much greater than ours, then you'd think they'd feel the need to put it into context.
Trouble is Beef is that it is not the size of the deal but the nature of it which is being looked at - they believe that Etihad/quatari sponsors have direct links with the owners of the club and they have deemed that an ffp back door
jimtolmie_tache wrote:I'm so cynical about UEFA, I could expect anything of them, and their thought processes.
Remember that David Gill is prominent in all this as well.
It may well be that the ultimate sanctions are not used, and we escape with a small fine or whatever. But it's the uncertainty that's bein sewn ahead of the summer. Apparently, the final sanction may not be decided until just before the season starts. So if you are Aguero, for example, what are you meant to think? You may be spending the next season in a side that is totally uncompetitive in the Champions League, because of proposed wage limit sanctions. So just in case, it's a fair bet that Sergio will be onto his agent to see if there's any chance of getting to a club with a better chance of getting to the later stages... a Real Madrid, say, or a Bayern.
It also works for any players we might be interested in during the summer. Would Suarez even look twice at City if there's even a hint of this in the pipeline?
It could be a cunning UEFA ploy to get players to leave the clubs they don't like, and join the ones they approve of - MUFC, LFC, Arsenal etc. And they don't even need to apply any sanctions, just get the press to bandy around what could happen, and leave the final judgement to the very last minute before the season starts.
UEFA won't be happy till they have a hermetically sealed Super League of teams playing in red (and Real Madrid at a push), endlessly fulfilling the same fixtures for PPV TV in front of vetted audiences of 'consumers', waving pre-sanctioned banners displaying the faces of the players who best promote the brand.
Original Dub wrote:
Chill the bones mate!
jimtolmie_tache wrote:Original Dub wrote:
Chill the bones mate!
Serious point. It seems that, by appealing, Arsenal and others can string out this process till August if they want to, so it's not going to be a great selling point for potential targets.
"And you'll be playing in the Champions League. Probably.... alongside World Cup winner SERGIO AGUERO! Maybe. "
Hutch's Shoulder wrote:My bet is we get a fine, pay it and everything carries on as normal.
john@staustell wrote:The problem is deeper for UEFA and that is why I dont think they'll be making any examples.
Several of the old guard are in trouble. This means they'll either have to spend gazoodles of money to get their status back, hit upon a Brendon Rogers with slightly less gazoodles, or fade forever and comply with FFP.
Take:
1) Manchester United - profits good but after interests and loan repayments only about 17M I think from looking it up a few weeks ago (may be 30-odd, sorry). So can they spend the quoted 200M - absolutely no chance and whilst wages go up if there's a prolonged absence from the CL they could easily go into death spiral
2) Arsenal - supposedly the best run but their margins are not big. Wages are high and commercial revenue is absolutely lamentable. If they drop out will Silent Stan spen millions of his own dosh? No chance. Will FFP allow him to? No. Living on the edge
3) Inter - 5th on the face of it but about 34 points behind Juve - awful. Can they spend to get back to CL? Not allowed to. Downward spiral, revenues declining without CL, team declining.
4) AC Milan - classic spenders, leaders of FFP and now an absolute basket case. Even if they do have money their beloved FFP will stop them spending. Possibility of relegation in the near future, well done Silvio for your tenure!
5) Barcelona - seem to be tottering on the edge. Like Real and United, high revenues but massive debts. Undoubtedly will get a new manager but again their margins are very tight, a real reason why they may take money for Messi.
Cant think of the rest of the G14 but I'm sure a few more are in the poo, exascerbated by FFP.
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