Luke shaw

[john@staustell]

Good player but depends on the price. But then again good English players are few and far between and with these daft rules......

Holds his own in the PL at 18. Most 'propects' look pretty shite to be honest until they man up at about 20. Sure he has faults but the fact that he is already a 'full PL player' suggests he will be pretty good, especially in a better team.

[Hazy2]

I see this as the same situation tge rags found themselves in with rooney at Everton. We would be happy for him to continue playing his trade with Southampton but we all know that if we dont buy shaw then chelsea will.

Shaw is an investment and is prob the best young left back I have seen in a long time. We need to battle for his signature imo.

Good point, I see it as a buy him, do not give the deluded one the chance to show the world he signed him, despite our interest. Either sign him or declare no interest and save the bullshit from the media lick arses.

[Saul Goodman]

So many things I disagree with about that...

But let's start with "EMNT"...really?

Goes downhill from there.

Please, sir, tell me the error of my ways

[Slim]

He is an excellent prospect and I think it's the filth we need to worry about snapping him up. Evra is on the way out and they'll be looking for another leftback, couldn't stomach a potentially great player being ruined by that shitheap.

[Goaters 103]

He is an excellent prospect and I think it's the filth we need to worry about snapping him up. Evra is on the way out and they'll be looking for another leftback, couldn't stomach a potentially great player being ruined by that shitheap.

Am sure can top any wages offer, and we can offer CL footy. The filth have the prospect of Thurs nights on channel 5 against FC Shite of Kazahkstan ..... if they are lucky.

[Hazy2]

Add Luke and Mangala, that would be special, Shaw is going to be some player, I see him also adding 5/6 goals a season plus he will develop into a great free kick taker, according to Le Tissier. No brainer, we even have some players they might take as part of the deal, Micah, Rodders.

[Ted Hughes]

Add Luke and Mangala, that would be special, Shaw is going to be some player, I see him also adding 5/6 goals a season plus he will develop into a great free kick taker, according to Le Tissier. No brainer, we even have some players they might take as part of the deal, Micah, Rodders.

Their wages would most likely be too high.

People keep metioning getting rid of Micah, but if we do, we lose a place in the senior squad 'A' list with no replacement possible. Even if we signed a 'home produced' player he would not be 'club trained'. Once Micah goes, that spot is empty & will only be filled when one of the academy 'B' list players become too old & have to go on the 'A' list.

Meanwhile, we have to either sign a right back & use up another squad place replacing Micah or, play someone out of position or rely on the kids when Zabba is injured/rested.

[Dubciteh]

What about Ben Davies as an alternative? He is 20 and has two years in the premier league under his belt. Would prob get him for a third of the price, he's attacking and can defend too.

[Douglas Higginbottom]

If we pay 30 mil for Shaw, we won't be paying for what he is now, rather we will be paying for the player we think he will become.

No way is he currently producing 30 million quid's worth of fullbackery.

We will also possibly lose one or two very promising kids from the youth set up if we do this.

I think this is an important point for City to consider.Shaw may well be good enough immediately and personally I think he is but if we do take him it does put question marks against our up and coming left backs coming through the ranks.

As it happens we have one,Angelino who is a real prospect but he is 2 or 3 years younger than Shaw and not ready yet plus a right back of similar age. City's " planning for the future" is probably more aimed at players currently 16 or under.Some good older players and hopefully one of those will make it like say Denayer/Pozo but the recruitment at the lower age groups would be the bigger hopes.

[Ted Hughes]

If we pay 30 mil for Shaw, we won't be paying for what he is now, rather we will be paying for the player we think he will become.

No way is he currently producing 30 million quid's worth of fullbackery.

We will also possibly lose one or two very promising kids from the youth set up if we do this.

I think this is an important point for City to consider.Shaw may well be good enough immediately and personally I think he is but if we do take him it does put question marks against our up and coming left backs coming through the ranks.

As it happens we have one,Angelino who is a real prospect but he is 2 or 3 years younger than Shaw and not ready yet plus a right back of similar age. City's " planning for the future" is probably more aimed at players currently 16 or under.Some good older players and hopefully one of those will make it like say Denayer/Pozo but the recruitment at the lower age groups would be the bigger hopes.

Angelino potentially looks a proper footballer to me, possibly a more intelligent one than Shaw, & possibly a more skilled one as well. Not as physically well built but in every other area, I would say potentially as good or better.

It's the build of Shaw in addition to his ability which sets him apart currently, for his age, imo. If he develops further then he will be out on his own, but will he ? Or will he be another Micah, or Michael Owen, or typical English 'wonderkid' player who peaks at 18-20 ?

Both he & Angelino could possibly end up not being fullbacks in the future though I suppose.

Wasn't Vieira raving about Greg Leigh recently ? He still hasn't had a chance yet.

[Foreverinbluedreams]

If we pay 30 mil for Shaw, we won't be paying for what he is now, rather we will be paying for the player we think he will become.

No way is he currently producing 30 million quid's worth of fullbackery.

We will also possibly lose one or two very promising kids from the youth set up if we do this.

I think this is an important point for City to consider.Shaw may well be good enough immediately and personally I think he is but if we do take him it does put question marks against our up and coming left backs coming through the ranks.

As it happens we have one,Angelino who is a real prospect but he is 2 or 3 years younger than Shaw and not ready yet plus a right back of similar age. City's " planning for the future" is probably more aimed at players currently 16 or under.Some good older players and hopefully one of those will make it like say Denayer/Pozo but the recruitment at the lower age groups would be the bigger hopes.

Angelino potentially looks a proper footballer to me, possibly a more intelligent one than Shaw, & possibly a more skilled one as well. Not as physically well built but in every other area, I would say potentially as good or better.

It's the build of Shaw in addition to his ability which sets him apart currently, for his age, imo. If he develops further then he will be out on his own, but will he ? Or will he be another Micah, or Michael Owen, or typical English 'wonderkid' player who peaks at 18-20 ?

Both he & Angelino could possibly end up not being fullbacks in the future though I suppose.

Wasn't Vieira raving about Greg Leigh recently ? He still hasn't had a chance yet.

With all this in mind I'd say Moreno would be the better bet given his age. We should still bid for Shaw though to ensure Chelsea pay top whack for him.

[Hazy2]

If we pay 30 mil for Shaw, we won't be paying for what he is now, rather we will be paying for the player we think he will become.

No way is he currently producing 30 million quid's worth of fullbackery.

We will also possibly lose one or two very promising kids from the youth set up if we do this.

I think this is an important point for City to consider.Shaw may well be good enough immediately and personally I think he is but if we do take him it does put question marks against our up and coming left backs coming through the ranks.

As it happens we have one,Angelino who is a real prospect but he is 2 or 3 years younger than Shaw and not ready yet plus a right back of similar age. City's " planning for the future" is probably more aimed at players currently 16 or under.Some good older players and hopefully one of those will make it like say Denayer/Pozo but the recruitment at the lower age groups would be the bigger hopes.

Angelino potentially looks a proper footballer to me, possibly a more intelligent one than Shaw, & possibly a more skilled one as well. Not as physically well built but in every other area, I would say potentially as good or better.

It's the build of Shaw in addition to his ability which sets him apart currently, for his age, imo. If he develops further then he will be out on his own, but will he ? Or will he be another Micah, or Michael Owen, or typical English 'wonderkid' player who peaks at 18-20 ?

Both he & Angelino could possibly end up not being fullbacks in the future though I suppose.

Wasn't Vieira raving about Greg Leigh recently ? He still hasn't had a chance yet.

Shaw is better than anything we have coming through, that is why Southampton will be swamped with interest No brainer if we want to be the best we have to get the best. This kid will be superstar I said it 12 months ago on here.

[AG7]

I think I'll be happier if we signed Baines ...

[Breks]

I think I'll be happier if we signed Baines ...

He is approaching 31 so on that basis I would prefer us to go for Shaw.

[RodneyRodney]

Forget Baines ; he's part of Agent Moyes' plan

[Goaters 103]

I think I'll be happier if we signed Baines ...

Am I the only one who doesn't rate Baines as a defender? Decent crosser of the ball, dead ball specialist but defensively weak. In other words a glorified Kolarov.

[sheblue]

30-35m is a lot for some eone who has potential, we all have potential but do we realise it? thats the risk i suppose, savic and nasti had lots of potential too, as well as many others.
Chelski have the spanish lad astalavista or whatever so cant see them wading in on this one, why would the fuck would shaw want to go to a mid table team like the rags? he would be better off staying where he is.

[Hazy2]

30-35m is a lot for some eone who has potential, we all have potential but do we realise it? thats the risk i suppose, savic and nasti had lots of potential too, as well as many others.
Chelski have the spanish lad astalavista or whatever so cant see them wading in on this one, why would the fuck would shaw want to go to a mid table team like the rags? he would be better off staying where he is.

players get targets this lad has ripped them up his elevation from knocking on the door of first team to regular in the premier at 17 ! Glen Hoddle said he saw him at 15 and advised Spurs to pay whatever, this Kidd is going to be better than Bale, was it not Hoddle or Souness who said he will be like Maldini trust me, attack and defend in equal measures. Very rare talent Shaw.

[Slim]

He is, and the added benefit of already being in this league, so no surprises about him failing to adjust.

[Dameerto]

We've got to go for it, we just have to. All the planets are aligned.