Scum City Fans

[moomey]

Only just calmed down from an appalling experience v Chelsea league match - copy of e-mail below to the club.

Anyone know this pond life?

Dear Sirs,

I am writing to complain about the experience I had during the Chelsea home league match on February 3rd. I filled in a complaints form on the night and returned to one of the senior stewards but feel it is appropriate to follow up by e-mail and understand what the club is doing to address my concerns.

I purchased my ticket via Viagogo - details below

Transaction ID: 3921507 -Colin Bell stand 222, Row G, Seat 610

I sat down pre match and enjoyed some good banter with the lady next to me who was obviously a season ticket holder at the ground with her teenage son. I learned that my seat was usually used by an out of town season ticket holder. We chatted during the match and enjoyed a friendly dialogue.

Half way through the second half the individual sat two rows in front of me directly ahead (I assume Row E same seat number) jumped up and started to hurl a torrent of four letter words and abuse at me telling me repeatedly to shut up. I was aghast at this and was at a loss to understand the reasons for his behaviour. I repeatedly asked him what had caused his outburst and he refused to engage other than to continue his verbal assault which had become heated and aggressive. Fellow fans and a steward intervened to get him to sit down. I leaned forward to him to suggest we as "fellow blues" shouldn't be arguing and offered my hand of friendship which he refused. I went on to suggest his behaviour was shameful given the young boy that was accompanying him (it was unclear whether this was his son or grandson) - this appeared to further provoke his anger and resulted in clear threats of violence (he threatened to "do me" and "knock my block off"). Once again the steward close by had to intervene to calm him down.

I have followed City for 40 years and have never ever been abused by a fellow City supporter. I was shocked and upset having made the journey up from near London that day to receive such unprovoked aggression and I spent the rest of the half stunned and aggrieved that this mindless idiot could so thoroughly ruin my evening.

Later as the match drew to a close I felt the need to ask him what had caused his repeated aggressive verbal attacks and threats of violence to which I didn't receive a satisfactory response. Indeed both he and the tall well built man next to him (to his right) both offered to take me outside and "give me a good kicking". I once again pointed out the shameless nature of this threatening and aggressive behaviour to both of them in the presence of children - some of which were in their charge.

By this time I had had enough and asked the steward to reseat me away from theses threats of violence which had begun to make me concerned for my own safety particularly post match if these two individuals' threats were to be taken seriously.

The steward helpfully took me away from the scene and I engaged with a senior steward post match to fill in a form attempting to detail my complaint. You can understand this was difficult to articulate in the heat of the moment and therefore I have felt it appropriate to follow up with this mail.

In response I would like the club to detail the following:-

- What sanctions the two individuals who threatened violence to me will be subject to?
- If I believe the club has not taken seriously my complaint I reserve the right to take up with GMP directly - I am sure the CCTV will attest to the unprovoked nature of this verbal assault.
- How the club will ensure that someone like me who purchased an (expensive) ticket through Viagogo won't be subject to the same threatening and disgusting behaviour?

In summary it has taken me a couple of weeks to gather my thoughts and make this complaint - so upset have I been.

I would like to think the club take my narrative seriously and will give me the satisfaction of an appropriate response.

[Breks]

Only just calmed down from an appalling experience v Chelsea league match - copy of e-mail below to the club.

Anyone know this pond life?

Dear Sirs,

I am writing to complain about the experience I had during the Chelsea home league match on February 3rd. I filled in a complaints form on the night and returned to one of the senior stewards but feel it is appropriate to follow up by e-mail and understand what the club is doing to address my concerns.

I purchased my ticket via Viagogo - details below

Transaction ID: 3921507 -Colin Bell stand 222, Row G, Seat 610

I sat down pre match and enjoyed some good banter with the lady next to me who was obviously a season ticket holder at the ground with her teenage son. I learned that my seat was usually used by an out of town season ticket holder. We chatted during the match and enjoyed a friendly dialogue.

Half way through the second half the individual sat two rows in front of me directly ahead (I assume Row E same seat number) jumped up and started to hurl a torrent of four letter words and abuse at me telling me repeatedly to shut up. I was aghast at this and was at a loss to understand the reasons for his behaviour. I repeatedly asked him what had caused his outburst and he refused to engage other than to continue his verbal assault which had become heated and aggressive. Fellow fans and a steward intervened to get him to sit down. I leaned forward to him to suggest we as "fellow blues" shouldn't be arguing and offered my hand of friendship which he refused. I went on to suggest his behaviour was shameful given the young boy that was accompanying him (it was unclear whether this was his son or grandson) - this appeared to further provoke his anger and resulted in clear threats of violence (he threatened to "do me" and "knock my block off"). Once again the steward close by had to intervene to calm him down.

I have followed City for 40 years and have never ever been abused by a fellow City supporter. I was shocked and upset having made the journey up from near London that day to receive such unprovoked aggression and I spent the rest of the half stunned and aggrieved that this mindless idiot could so thoroughly ruin my evening.

Later as the match drew to a close I felt the need to ask him what had caused his repeated aggressive verbal attacks and threats of violence to which I didn't receive a satisfactory response. Indeed both he and the tall well built man next to him (to his right) both offered to take me outside and "give me a good kicking". I once again pointed out the shameless nature of this threatening and aggressive behaviour to both of them in the presence of children - some of which were in their charge.

By this time I had had enough and asked the steward to reseat me away from theses threats of violence which had begun to make me concerned for my own safety particularly post match if these two individuals' threats were to be taken seriously.

The steward helpfully took me away from the scene and I engaged with a senior steward post match to fill in a form attempting to detail my complaint. You can understand this was difficult to articulate in the heat of the moment and therefore I have felt it appropriate to follow up with this mail.

In response I would like the club to detail the following:-

- What sanctions the two individuals who threatened violence to me will be subject to?
- If I believe the club has not taken seriously my complaint I reserve the right to take up with GMP directly - I am sure the CCTV will attest to the unprovoked nature of this verbal assault.
- How the club will ensure that someone like me who purchased an (expensive) ticket through Viagogo won't be subject to the same threatening and disgusting behaviour?

In summary it has taken me a couple of weeks to gather my thoughts and make this complaint - so upset have I been.

I would like to think the club take my narrative seriously and will give me the satisfaction of an appropriate response.

Are you from London originally?

[Hazy2]

Only just calmed down from an appalling experience v Chelsea league match - copy of e-mail below to the club.

Anyone know this pond life?

Dear Sirs,

I am writing to complain about the experience I had during the Chelsea home league match on February 3rd. I filled in a complaints form on the night and returned to one of the senior stewards but feel it is appropriate to follow up by e-mail and understand what the club is doing to address my concerns.

I purchased my ticket via Viagogo - details below

Transaction ID: 3921507 -Colin Bell stand 222, Row G, Seat 610

I sat down pre match and enjoyed some good banter with the lady next to me who was obviously a season ticket holder at the ground with her teenage son. I learned that my seat was usually used by an out of town season ticket holder. We chatted during the match and enjoyed a friendly dialogue.

Half way through the second half the individual sat two rows in front of me directly ahead (I assume Row E same seat number) jumped up and started to hurl a torrent of four letter words and abuse at me telling me repeatedly to shut up. I was aghast at this and was at a loss to understand the reasons for his behaviour. I repeatedly asked him what had caused his outburst and he refused to engage other than to continue his verbal assault which had become heated and aggressive. Fellow fans and a steward intervened to get him to sit down. I leaned forward to him to suggest we as "fellow blues" shouldn't be arguing and offered my hand of friendship which he refused. I went on to suggest his behaviour was shameful given the young boy that was accompanying him (it was unclear whether this was his son or grandson) - this appeared to further provoke his anger and resulted in clear threats of violence (he threatened to "do me" and "knock my block off"). Once again the steward close by had to intervene to calm him down.

I have followed City for 40 years and have never ever been abused by a fellow City supporter. I was shocked and upset having made the journey up from near London that day to receive such unprovoked aggression and I spent the rest of the half stunned and aggrieved that this mindless idiot could so thoroughly ruin my evening.

Later as the match drew to a close I felt the need to ask him what had caused his repeated aggressive verbal attacks and threats of violence to which I didn't receive a satisfactory response. Indeed both he and the tall well built man next to him (to his right) both offered to take me outside and "give me a good kicking". I once again pointed out the shameless nature of this threatening and aggressive behaviour to both of them in the presence of children - some of which were in their charge.

By this time I had had enough and asked the steward to reseat me away from theses threats of violence which had begun to make me concerned for my own safety particularly post match if these two individuals' threats were to be taken seriously.

The steward helpfully took me away from the scene and I engaged with a senior steward post match to fill in a form attempting to detail my complaint. You can understand this was difficult to articulate in the heat of the moment and therefore I have felt it appropriate to follow up with this mail.

In response I would like the club to detail the following:-

- What sanctions the two individuals who threatened violence to me will be subject to?
- If I believe the club has not taken seriously my complaint I reserve the right to take up with GMP directly - I am sure the CCTV will attest to the unprovoked nature of this verbal assault.
- How the club will ensure that someone like me who purchased an (expensive) ticket through Viagogo won't be subject to the same threatening and disgusting behaviour?

In summary it has taken me a couple of weeks to gather my thoughts and make this complaint - so upset have I been.

I would like to think the club take my narrative seriously and will give me the satisfaction of an appropriate response.

Are you from London originally?

why

[Breks]

why

I wasn't asking you.

[Pretty Boy Lee]

Not being funny, but does anyone know you?

[Rae4685]

Moomey have you been to see the doctor since?

[Hazy2]

why

I wasn't asking you.

I am asking you a question, if you don't want to answer fine.

[Mikhail Chigorin]

why

I wasn't asking you.

I am asking you a question, if you don't want to answer fine.

Quite a reasonable question to ask, to my mind.

Brek's reasoning might possibly be connected to his 'Glory-Hunter' attitude.

[Wonderwall]

Only just calmed down from an appalling experience v Chelsea league match - copy of e-mail below to the club.

Anyone know this pond life?

Dear Sirs,

I am writing to complain about the experience I had during the Chelsea home league match on February 3rd. I filled in a complaints form on the night and returned to one of the senior stewards but feel it is appropriate to follow up by e-mail and understand what the club is doing to address my concerns.

I purchased my ticket via Viagogo - details below

Transaction ID: 3921507 -Colin Bell stand 222, Row G, Seat 610

I sat down pre match and enjoyed some good banter with the lady next to me who was obviously a season ticket holder at the ground with her teenage son. I learned that my seat was usually used by an out of town season ticket holder. We chatted during the match and enjoyed a friendly dialogue.

Half way through the second half the individual sat two rows in front of me directly ahead (I assume Row E same seat number) jumped up and started to hurl a torrent of four letter words and abuse at me telling me repeatedly to shut up. I was aghast at this and was at a loss to understand the reasons for his behaviour. I repeatedly asked him what had caused his outburst and he refused to engage other than to continue his verbal assault which had become heated and aggressive. Fellow fans and a steward intervened to get him to sit down. I leaned forward to him to suggest we as "fellow blues" shouldn't be arguing and offered my hand of friendship which he refused. I went on to suggest his behaviour was shameful given the young boy that was accompanying him (it was unclear whether this was his son or grandson) - this appeared to further provoke his anger and resulted in clear threats of violence (he threatened to "do me" and "knock my block off"). Once again the steward close by had to intervene to calm him down.

I have followed City for 40 years and have never ever been abused by a fellow City supporter. I was shocked and upset having made the journey up from near London that day to receive such unprovoked aggression and I spent the rest of the half stunned and aggrieved that this mindless idiot could so thoroughly ruin my evening.

Later as the match drew to a close I felt the need to ask him what had caused his repeated aggressive verbal attacks and threats of violence to which I didn't receive a satisfactory response. Indeed both he and the tall well built man next to him (to his right) both offered to take me outside and "give me a good kicking". I once again pointed out the shameless nature of this threatening and aggressive behaviour to both of them in the presence of children - some of which were in their charge.

By this time I had had enough and asked the steward to reseat me away from theses threats of violence which had begun to make me concerned for my own safety particularly post match if these two individuals' threats were to be taken seriously.

The steward helpfully took me away from the scene and I engaged with a senior steward post match to fill in a form attempting to detail my complaint. You can understand this was difficult to articulate in the heat of the moment and therefore I have felt it appropriate to follow up with this mail.

In response I would like the club to detail the following:-

- What sanctions the two individuals who threatened violence to me will be subject to?
- If I believe the club has not taken seriously my complaint I reserve the right to take up with GMP directly - I am sure the CCTV will attest to the unprovoked nature of this verbal assault.
- How the club will ensure that someone like me who purchased an (expensive) ticket through Viagogo won't be subject to the same threatening and disgusting behaviour?

In summary it has taken me a couple of weeks to gather my thoughts and make this complaint - so upset have I been.

I would like to think the club take my narrative seriously and will give me the satisfaction of an appropriate response.

I have seen many City fans arguing and telling each other to shut the fuck up and pipe down etc. Many times its because the person is spouting utter crap and deciding that everyone should be party to their opinion. Some times its because they are pissed and spoiling the game for others around them. It could also be because something was said against their favourite player and they had a bad day, but as he never told you why, I suppose you will never know.

There are two sides to every story, I would like to hear his ans see what got him in a tizz.

[ashton287]

Sound like an annoying cunt to be honest.

[Peter Doherty (AGAIG)]

"Knock my block off." Were these guys octogenarians?

[Breks]

There's a guy who sits 2 rows behind me, manc and he is a total cunt there's a few want to knock his block off. Anyway my thoughts are that them 2 guys targeted moomey because he was a southerner and we were playing a southern team and they had probably been drinking. I've heard the 2 southerners who sit behind me get shit off other City fans. Alot of folk can't understand why a southerner would want to support a North West team.

[Breks]

Agree with that attitude or not but it remains a fact. I even know Mancs that have told my father in law he has no right being a City fan because he's from Salford. There is extremist like that.

[Blue In Bolton]

Taken the Mrs a few times with her being from Essex and she loves going to the match. Never heard any comments directed towards us and she is sometimes more vocal than me in her support.

[guv111]

How can the OP be a glory hunter when he clearly joined mancityfans in 2005? Exactly what sort of glory would he have been hunting in the mid 2000s? Personally, I'd expect a long time fan to be more hardened to such behaviour, but at the same time the stewards need to do more than merely tell someone threatening a fellow fan to "sit down" or "calm down". That's a pretty feeble way of dealing with potential violence.

[Mase]

Sometimes I like to put on a cockney accent at the match in the hope someone wants to scrap.

[Original Dub]

Sometimes I like to put on a cockney accent at the match in the hope someone wants to scrap.

Unless that someone was Kolarov...

[City64]

222 , that's where I frequent along with lots of other diehard city fans who have been there since we moved to the Etihad . Not saying too much but plenty saw and heard what happened ............ It seemed the stewards who know the regulars took no action ........ Nuff said. Oh there are always two sides to every story.

[Mase]

Unless that someone was Kolarov...

I'd let him tear strips off me any day of the week!

[Wooders]

Sound like an annoying cunt to be honest.

Have to admit I thought the same thing - sounds like OP continually provoked them - even if the original confrontation was unprovoked, which I also doubt