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Re: Caicedo back And City After Lahm?

Postby Bingo Lewis » Tue Dec 08, 2009 11:26 am

Going off the topic of Lahm, which is basically a rumour, I'm glad we're getting Big Phil back.
The lad showed a lot of willing and improvement last season, and I thought it was a bit silly letting him go on loan as I thought he could have done a job for us from the bench. Its plain to see the lad needs time to settle in to a new club which Sporting are obviously not willing to give him so its best we get our young striker back and nurture him ourselves.
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Re: Caicedo back And City After Lahm?

Postby Vhero » Tue Dec 08, 2009 11:34 am

john@staustell wrote:Personally I think there's a cash-strapped club close by so we should make a swift bid for Evra which the Glazers cant refuse.

I dont care if he's a RAG. He can attack and defend and it would deprive them of one of their best players and solve our LB problem.

Nah we had enough rags here already I think they will end up losing him eventually anyways.
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Re: Caicedo back?

Postby Rag_hater » Tue Dec 08, 2009 11:45 am

Niall Quinns Discopants wrote:
Vhero wrote:
13021J wrote:Sounds like Caicedo is back at Sporting's request not ours!

As for Lahm I've only ever seen him for Germany and he looked good then. Anyone else have any views?

I only heard good things so I dunno I never watched him myself so wouldn't put my life on it or anything.


That's the problem with Lahm. Everyone has only seen him on bloody Youtube and he looks like bees knees. However he gets regularily skinned by average wingers in German league, usually twice or three times a game. He makes Bridge look like Pearce as defender. More or less the same was the case with Roberto Carlos, who for me was THE most overrated player EVER.


Youre wrong about Carlos a very good player.
I'd prefer Phil coming on rather than RSC myself and will be glad to see him back.
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Re: Caicedo back And City After Lahm?

Postby Fidel Castro » Tue Dec 08, 2009 11:45 am

I think it'd be quite handy to have Schofield around when Ade is with Togo in January
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Re: Caicedo back And City After Lahm?

Postby the_georgian_genius » Tue Dec 08, 2009 12:16 pm

Delighted Big Phil's back!
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Re: Caicedo back And City After Lahm?

Postby Manx Blue » Tue Dec 08, 2009 12:25 pm

Bingo Lewis wrote:Going off the topic of Lahm, which is basically a rumour, I'm glad we're getting Big Phil back.
The lad showed a lot of willing and improvement last season, and I thought it was a bit silly letting him go on loan as I thought he could have done a job for us from the bench. Its plain to see the lad needs time to settle in to a new club which Sporting are obviously not willing to give him so its best we get our young striker back and nurture him ourselves.


Here Here Bingo...incidentally, there were a few chaps on here wondering why we'd let Caicedo Go after watching RSC play against Hull. looks like they got their wish.

Now... if only young Phillip could stop trying to re-write the offside rule!
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Re: Caicedo back And City After Lahm?

Postby Mase » Tue Dec 08, 2009 1:05 pm

Isn't Lahm right footed? How do we not know that Hughes isn't after him to fill in at right-back where he has played in the past?
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Re: Caicedo back And City After Lahm?

Postby Nick » Tue Dec 08, 2009 2:06 pm

1) What do you guys think of Lahm, ive not seen much of him, but he sounds shit hot.

2) im sick of the fucking biased media. Check the piece on us through that link. How we were lucky against chelsea and it was all because of cech!!! its a joke. Every piece i've read looks down on us and basically says we were shit and lucky, its fucking unbelieveable.

3) Phil is back?!?! seriously?! :-) That may mean they've destroyed all of the progress he made in his second year though :-(
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Re: Caicedo back And City After Lahm?

Postby Florida Blue » Tue Dec 08, 2009 2:41 pm

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Mike J wrote:wasnt he checking out that lad at osasuna? Azpilicueta?? anyone know how good he is.
I heard great things about him, but he's a RB. We do need to improve that position too, though, so he's a good shout for the future. Maybe we will go for him this summer if Hughes is still here, that way the lad will have the whole pre-season to gel with the rest of the team.



No he is a left back, but he is right footed, which is a concern to me.
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Re: Caicedo back And City After Lahm?

Postby AlpsMaster » Tue Dec 08, 2009 2:57 pm

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Chinners wrote:I'm still laughing at Evra's debut against us ... no thank's, I'd rather stick with Bridge

tricky trev raped him that day.


I always liked Trev and was sorry we could not afford him when he was at his best.
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Re: Caicedo back And City After Lahm?

Postby fangsanalsatan » Tue Dec 08, 2009 3:38 pm

MaseCTID wrote:Isn't Lahm right footed? How do we not know that Hughes isn't after him to fill in at right-back where he has played in the past?


Brilliant left-back when on form, but this season he's been abysmal playing right-back. Biggest weakness: couldn't put a decent cross in, if his life depended on it.
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Re: Caicedo back And City After Lahm?

Postby Original Dub » Tue Dec 08, 2009 3:49 pm

Lahm is a quality player, but like like all other foreigners, you just don't know how good they'll be when they come to the prem.

With regards Phil - It looks unlikely he'll ever be top notch, but we have nothing to lose by having him at the club, so happy days.
HOWEVER, yet again in this thread there is RSC bashing or at least intimating that Filipe Caecedo is a better striker than Roque Santa Cruz.

Lads, will you give over and let the guy get back to full fitness before you bash him. Players need support when they're trying to get their confidence back and the fact he has had two starts and one goal, with a couple of shitty sub appearances should not make your mind up that he is a crap player.

Give him a break, come on FFS!
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Re: Caicedo back And City After Lahm?

Postby Florida Blue » Tue Dec 08, 2009 4:08 pm

Original Dub wrote:Lahm is a quality player, but like like all other foreigners, you just don't know how good they'll be when they come to the prem.

With regards Phil - It looks unlikely he'll ever be top notch, but we have nothing to lose by having him at the club, so happy days.
HOWEVER, yet again in this thread there is RSC bashing or at least intimating that Filipe Caecedo is a better striker than Roque Santa Cruz.

Lads, will you give over and let the guy get back to full fitness before you bash him. Players need support when they're trying to get their confidence back and the fact he has had two starts and one goal, with a couple of shitty sub appearances should not make your mind up that he is a crap player.

Give him a break, come on FFS!


OD, while I agree RSC has not been given a fair chance, how long does it take to get to full fitness? He is right at the point of "normal" recovery time for that kind of injury. The question that must be asked is will he ever regain full fitness (whatever that is the guy has only had one top notch PL season)? Medical technology is great these days, but it is still possible he will fall into a position of one never to recover. Look at Nicky Weaver, he never really was the same after the first procedure. I am not ready to give up on him based on his skill, but rather I am just not sure I see him as a fit for our beloved squad. Personally I enjoy the way Caicedo plays, I have never been that impressed with RSC, and I hope MH was right to go after him so hard. I don't want him to fail, I don't want any of our players to fail, but FFS SHOW ME SOMETHING SOON!!!
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Re: Caicedo back And City After Lahm?

Postby Goataldo » Tue Dec 08, 2009 4:09 pm

Original Dub wrote:Lahm is a quality player, but like like all other foreigners, you just don't know how good they'll be when they come to the prem.

With regards Phil - It looks unlikely he'll ever be top notch, but we have nothing to lose by having him at the club, so happy days.
HOWEVER, yet again in this thread there is RSC bashing or at least intimating that Filipe Caecedo is a better striker than Roque Santa Cruz.

Lads, will you give over and let the guy get back to full fitness before you bash him. Players need support when they're trying to get their confidence back and the fact he has had two starts and one goal, with a couple of shitty sub appearances should not make your mind up that he is a crap player.

Give him a break, come on FFS!


I agree with all that.

I don't know much about Lahm, but if he's able to play at right and left full-back then hopefully he's two-footed, for his sake if nothing else? (Don't even get me started on professional footballers who can only kick with one foot, it's INFURIATING AND PATHETIC.) Sounds like a good player to have to increase our options and pressure for team places, but he's been linked with four thousand and three clubs this season alone. Approximately.

As for Cacaedo, I gradually warmed to him, but having him up front at present would hardly be a progressive move IMO, even in teh cups.
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Re: Caicedo back And City After Lahm?

Postby Goataldo » Tue Dec 08, 2009 4:14 pm

In fact sod it it's doing my head right in. SELL Cacaedo NOW. He can't spell Phillip, and I can't spell Caecaedo, let's call the whole thing off.
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Re: Caicedo back And City After Lahm?

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Re: Caicedo back And City After Lahm?

Postby Goataldo » Tue Dec 08, 2009 4:47 pm

mr_nool wrote:F e l i p e C a i c e d o


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Re: Caicedo back And City After Lahm?

Postby Original Dub » Tue Dec 08, 2009 5:03 pm

Florida Blue wrote:
Original Dub wrote:Lahm is a quality player, but like like all other foreigners, you just don't know how good they'll be when they come to the prem.

With regards Phil - It looks unlikely he'll ever be top notch, but we have nothing to lose by having him at the club, so happy days.
HOWEVER, yet again in this thread there is RSC bashing or at least intimating that Filipe Caecedo is a better striker than Roque Santa Cruz.

Lads, will you give over and let the guy get back to full fitness before you bash him. Players need support when they're trying to get their confidence back and the fact he has had two starts and one goal, with a couple of shitty sub appearances should not make your mind up that he is a crap player.

Give him a break, come on FFS!


OD, while I agree RSC has not been given a fair chance, how long does it take to get to full fitness? He is right at the point of "normal" recovery time for that kind of injury. The question that must be asked is will he ever regain full fitness (whatever that is the guy has only had one top notch PL season)? Medical technology is great these days, but it is still possible he will fall into a position of one never to recover. Look at Nicky Weaver, he never really was the same after the first procedure. I am not ready to give up on him based on his skill, but rather I am just not sure I see him as a fit for our beloved squad. Personally I enjoy the way Caicedo plays, I have never been that impressed with RSC, and I hope MH was right to go after him so hard. I don't want him to fail, I don't want any of our players to fail, but FFS SHOW ME SOMETHING SOON!!!


"the question must be asked"

Why is that? You'd swear he started 10 games and not scored once the way you're talking.

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Re: Caicedo back And City After Lahm?

Postby Goataldo » Tue Dec 08, 2009 6:09 pm

Original Dub wrote:
Florida Blue wrote:
Original Dub wrote:Lahm is a quality player, but like like all other foreigners, you just don't know how good they'll be when they come to the prem.

With regards Phil - It looks unlikely he'll ever be top notch, but we have nothing to lose by having him at the club, so happy days.
HOWEVER, yet again in this thread there is RSC bashing or at least intimating that Filipe Caecedo is a better striker than Roque Santa Cruz.

Lads, will you give over and let the guy get back to full fitness before you bash him. Players need support when they're trying to get their confidence back and the fact he has had two starts and one goal, with a couple of shitty sub appearances should not make your mind up that he is a crap player.

Give him a break, come on FFS!


OD, while I agree RSC has not been given a fair chance, how long does it take to get to full fitness? He is right at the point of "normal" recovery time for that kind of injury. The question that must be asked is will he ever regain full fitness (whatever that is the guy has only had one top notch PL season)? Medical technology is great these days, but it is still possible he will fall into a position of one never to recover. Look at Nicky Weaver, he never really was the same after the first procedure. I am not ready to give up on him based on his skill, but rather I am just not sure I see him as a fit for our beloved squad. Personally I enjoy the way Caicedo plays, I have never been that impressed with RSC, and I hope MH was right to go after him so hard. I don't want him to fail, I don't want any of our players to fail, but FFS SHOW ME SOMETHING SOON!!!

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Come off it; match fitness and sharpness is a world away from being passed fit to play after playing reserve football, training, and grabbing a few cameo appearances.

I think he has a good chance of proving he's a quality player. Reason? I've seen him play very well, to great effect. NOt for City admittedly, but that gets us back to this surreal concept of giving the lad time....
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Re: Caicedo back And City After Lahm?

Postby Twobob » Tue Dec 08, 2009 6:32 pm

AlpsMaster wrote:
Mike J wrote:
Chinners wrote:I'm still laughing at Evra's debut against us ... no thank's, I'd rather stick with Bridge

tricky trev raped him that day.


I always liked Trev and was sorry we could not afford him when he was at his best.


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