So what happens now? what needs to be done?

[Hazy2]

Having just walked through the door, The one thing I have taken from the trip to Dortmund nad having a beer with the fans, They have been here, smashed Bayern won the league failed in the Champions League, Klopp was to be flogged and shot, They stuck with him, maybe the lessons is to relax ands enjoy what we are Champions. Dortmund fans love what they are and what they have become. The German press love Bayern, they as fans have no interest in anything but BVB, Klopp is now stronger and the clubs fans is happy as pigs in shit. Top stadium and loud fans.

[Piccsnumberoneblue]

Everyone in Dortmund seems to support and love their team, women and kids included.
Super place but a bit underwhelmed by their support and stadium.
Oh, we know what needs to be done.

[Tesl]

Mancini should not be sacked even if he doesn't win the league this season. I'd probably be willing to keep him even if we didn't win anything next year either. I've total faith in him and hes been excellent for us, anyone calling for his head now is, in my mind, mental.

[chips]

Mancini should not be sacked even if he doesn't win the league this season. I'd probably be willing to keep him even if we didn't win anything next year either. I've total faith in him and hes been excellent for us, anyone calling for his head now is, in my mind, mental.

[carl_feedthegoat]

Mancini should not be sacked even if he doesn't win the league this season. I'd probably be willing to keep him even if we didn't win anything next year either. I've total faith in him and hes been excellent for us, anyone calling for his head now is, in my mind, mental.

So , let me get this right , you would probably keep the manager of one of the most expensive teams in the world even though he won NOTHING this year and wins NOTHING next year.

You put the M in Mental mate.

[zuricity]

So , let me get this right , you would probably keep the manager of one of the most expensive teams in the world even though he won NOTHING this year and wins NOTHING next year.

You put the M in Mental mate.

Carl that's what United have done . so too Arsenal, both were expensive teams to build

[carl_feedthegoat]

So , let me get this right , you would probably keep the manager of one of the most expensive teams in the world even though he won NOTHING this year and wins NOTHING next year.

You put the M in Mental mate.

Carl that's what United have done . so too Arsenal, both were expensive teams to build[/q

Times have changed mate , its not yesteryear anymore where patience was accepted.
We are in the same boat as the Madrids and Barcelonas of the world...success or progress is a must to keep a manager in place.I have no argument overall with Mancinis management in the prem even if we are boring to watch more often than not this season but the CL is a real must in the sense that we have to progress to reach the revenues and extra fan base we need.
The way we played this year in the CL was fucking terrible, not having learnt anything from last year and someone needs to be brought to book over it...thats Mancini.

[john68]

I agree Carl that times have changed but that does not mean that it is better, just different.

If the World has lost patience with patience mate...it is a much sadder place....we would do well to get it back. That would be progress.

[zuricity]

Carl that's what United have done . so too Arsenal, both were expensive teams to build[/q

Times have changed mate , its not yesteryear anymore where patience was accepted.
We are in the same boat as the Madrids and Barcelonas of the world...success or progress is a must to keep a manager in place.I have no argument overall with Mancinis management in the prem even if we are boring to watch more often than not this season but the CL is a real must in the sense that we have to progress to reach the revenues and extra fan base we need.
The way we played this year in the CL was fucking terrible, not having learnt anything from last year and someone needs to be brought to book over it...thats Mancini.

Carl i agree with what you write probably 99 % of the time. However as John68 might say "Rome wasn't built in a day"

I just do not think that now , before a big game , is the right time to discuss the merits of the manager or the team.

Now is the time to concentrate all our energies on "Slaying the dragon" ,

The rest is like Greg Allman sang..., "Wasted words"

[carl_feedthegoat]

Carl that's what United have done . so too Arsenal, both were expensive teams to build[/q

Times have changed mate , its not yesteryear anymore where patience was accepted.
We are in the same boat as the Madrids and Barcelonas of the world...success or progress is a must to keep a manager in place.I have no argument overall with Mancinis management in the prem even if we are boring to watch more often than not this season but the CL is a real must in the sense that we have to progress to reach the revenues and extra fan base we need.
The way we played this year in the CL was fucking terrible, not having learnt anything from last year and someone needs to be brought to book over it...thats Mancini.

Carl i agree with what you write probably 99 % of the time. However as John68 might say "Rome wasn't built in a day"

I just do not think that now , before a big game , is the right time to discuss the merits of the manager or the team.

Now is the time to concentrate all our energies on "Slaying the dragon" ,

The rest is like Greg Allman sang..., "Wasted words"

Im actually confident we will batter the scum on sunday..I dotn know why but I feel the players will be well up for this.The scum will be nervous this time around...I can smell it.

[walmai]

If the World has lost patience with patience mate...it is a much sadder place....we would do well to get it back. That would be progress.

How I see it is like this.

There is a very significant window of opportunity possibly starting to open up in domestic football at the moment.

The state of the team/squad they have suggests to me that Man U's dominance of our league might come to an end around the same time that Ferguson retires. A number of very emblematic players of his changing sides (Giggs/Scholes/Rio) will go at the same time.

The opportunity arises for another club to be the league's 'most likely' winner, unless the board at Old Trafford make such a perfect selection that the transition is seamless. I can't see that, but would any other board (yours/Abramovich?/Arsenal's?!) think now was the time to strike?

If they did - underwriting the kind of investment necessary to move you to go 'top level' - I don't personally think they'd see Mancini as the man to achieve it. Flame me down, if you wish, but to the outsider, he's a bit of a flat-track bully (in general, I'd say, I appreciate that some of his one off results have been amazing).

[Fergiesnose]

Far to much deadwood at city, players overrated and shit, slow and lazy and get carried by the team. At the moment city are borin and uncreative and end up setting up camp outside the oppositions box passing the ball around

[john68]

Far to much deadwood at city, players overrated and shit, slow and lazy and get carried by the team. At the moment city are borin and uncreative and end up setting up camp outside the oppositions box passing the ball around

...and folks, we have yet another post from our positive friend who has yet to post anything nice about us.

[Swales4ever]

Our Friend Walmai does not rate Mancini.
Who had ever thought that from previous opinions posted on here over the last 3 years?
fair enough, nonetheless, of course.
It's more weird looking at how many Blues seems to have lost memory of the Club's state of the art on the day before his appointment.
Only 3 little years has since passed, though.
and an FA Pot, a League Title, a Massacre and that little, meaningless, detail of the Owner throwing a 5 years renewal at him.

Relax Walm, Mate, City won't "buy" Your precious Sam.

[Swales4ever]

Far to much deadwood at city, players overrated and shit, slow and lazy and get carried by the team. At the moment city are borin and uncreative and end up setting up camp outside the oppositions box passing the ball around

...and folks, we have yet another post from our positive friend who has yet to post anything nice about us.

Ferguson's Nose?

[Hazy2]

So , let me get this right , you would probably keep the manager of one of the most expensive teams in the world even though he won NOTHING this year and wins NOTHING next year.

You put the M in Mental mate.

Carl that's what United have done . so too Arsenal, both were expensive teams to build[/q

Times have changed mate , its not yesteryear anymore where patience was accepted.
We are in the same boat as the Madrids and Barcelonas of the world...success or progress is a must to keep a manager in place.I have no argument overall with Mancinis management in the prem even if we are boring to watch more often than not this season but the CL is a real must in the sense that we have to progress to reach the revenues and extra fan base we need.
The way we played this year in the CL was fucking terrible, not having learnt anything from last year and someone needs to be brought to book over it...thats Mancini.

Why does a head have to roll we are Champions of England whichever way you dice it our DNA has got to be far removed from Chelski, that is not how to behave, if we went with tabloid shite we would be not much better. Bobby has made mistakes no doubt, in a year we have put the rags behind,he has my support and rage at times.If he wins the League again our foundations will be far stronger for a proper attempt at what will be still 3-5 from being a major force. Dortmund have shown it takes 3 yrs to get your head around it, and this year they are failing in the League as a result. Derby week has to be total support

[walmai]

Relax Walm, Mate, City won't "buy" Your precious Sam.

No sweat. He's lined up to replace Mourinho anyway.

You're right to suggest I'm not overawed by Mancini's abilities. He impresses in patches.

City could do more than that, in my honest. They could dominate the next ten years. I just can't see Mancini doing that.

[SmallTimeCharlie]

is this the 'i don't really like my team' thread?

@walmai - hear ya, but utd aren't going anywhere, with or without Darth Whisky. There will always be 2 or 3 teams vying for the title, just brilliant for us that one of those, for the foreseeable future (10-15 years, probably longer) is City.
Mancini won us the title last year. Wins it or comes second by a gnat's chuff this year, and he'll keep his job.
If he could have signed his first choices , we'd be crushing everything in front of us. It didn't happen for whatever reason, so we are not looking as good as we could. Plus we have had mor einjuries already this year than in the whole of last year - Aguero injured in the opening match, Richards, Clichy, Silva etc. etc.

[walmai]

If you prevent Man U from winning anything 2 seasons in a row, that's a significant start in truth.

Last year was a rare blip. Making it consecutive would be a land-mark in the last 20 years of football.

I know you lot almost have to hate them, but the record is practically unique in English club football.

[Swales4ever]

Relax Walm, Mate, City won't "buy" Your precious Sam.

No sweat. He's lined up to replace Mourinho anyway.

You're right to suggest I'm not overawed by Mancini's abilities. He impresses in patches.

City could do more than that, in my honest. They could dominate the next ten years. I just can't see Mancini doing that.

Arf.
As I said, fair enough. Honest, Mate.
I sometime dig - slightly - at You . cause from Your general posts, I rate Your genuine love for the Game a Fair Values of Sportsmanship:
that's why sometimes, I find quite hard to believe when few of Your posts ooze tabloids.
It's just my opinion, deffo worth not much than Yours. well, maybe, just a tad more informed about City... ;)

Mancini will convince You sooner or later, though, just because You are an open mind and he is a football genius.