Chelsea Accuse Mark Clattenburg Of Racism

[Pretty Boy Lee]

Don't have to defend anything.However the fact is there were 98 other players who got one yellow card including 5 of our players so if you stop being so paranoid and examine the facts you will see you are being what you usally are.

So would Rooney have been booked for diving then?

[Swales4ever]

The same Shrek that received just one yellow card in domestic competition last season? ONE???!!!

As an aside, did you know that Johnny Evans has yet to commit a single foul this season? Just thought I'd throw it out there.

Back on topic, Clattenburg is a cunt. Guilty? Who knows? but I wouldn't mind seeing the back of the cunt either way.

Couldn't have summed it up better.
must surely because I am somewhat genetically incapable of summary, but it really said it all.
Chelsky are true sore loser, but the twat is a square disgrace to football. rags or not.
the game would be a better place.

[Rag_hater]

The same Shrek that received just one yellow card in domestic competition last season? ONE???!!!

As an aside, did you know that Johnny Evans has yet to commit a single foul this season? Just thought I'd throw it out there.

Back on topic, Clattenburg is a cunt. Guilty? Who knows? but I wouldn't mind seeing the back of the cunt either way.

Bloody shocking stats those. Let's see him defend these two.

Its obvious the granny-shagging cunt is an diving,elbowing,cheating cunt.However you would have thought the experts would have come up with something you have not seen dozens of other players doing.
And it also seems if you are not as paranoid as the experts you must be a rag,how fuckin sad

[mcfc1632]

perhaps it's me but if there was this thing about united getting the refs they want, when they want and a years break between reffing a loss for united. Then i'd be sure as hell prepared to ref them properly, if they lose so what ? I know i've got the cheating gits out of my hair for a long time, by being neutral and honest.

The issue is - like probably you and most other posters in your/their chosen professions - referees want to progress to the top of their profession.

For them I guess that would be reflected, like HW, as the ref of the world cup final – or thereabouts.

So how can they achieve that? – well certainly they need to be regarded, as HW is, to be amongst the top refs in their own country – and frankly that is not possible if they are not ‘allowed’ to officiate the top games in their own country – and unfortunately in England that means some scum games. So, yes the scum not having certain refs officiate their games at a stroke reduces the career potential of those refs.

So when they do get another chance – surprise surprise there seems to be some consistent issues of ‘benefit’ shown to the scum. I am not suggesting that this is some sort of ‘brown envelope’ level corruption – but for sure the ref does not want to be put back on the ‘blacklist’ again. The best examples are the ref that gave the 2 ‘very dubious’ penalties against Stoke and the one that disregarded the ‘unmisable penalty’ to QPR. Of course the same goes for linesmen.

BTW anyone else fall of their chair to hear baconface supporting Twattenburg by saying that Torres went down to easily and even if he had been touched he should have stayed on his feet. This is the manager of Ashley Young!!!! Media corruption/bias??? How the fuck otherwise could he make such a looney statement and not get challenged by the reporter – you guessed it – because they have the same level of fear of being dumped.

[mcfc1632]

Sorry RH - the big difference - and why it does need to be mentioned again and again - lest we forget is that with regard to the rags it is a factual position on 100% of the refs that officiated the games that they lost - and of course twattenbur continued the cycle!!!!

Anyway more to the point - re the 2nd question - had that been wooney do you think that he would have been sent off???

As to the Shrek issue I think it's the kind of thing Clattercunt revels in and would have no problem giving him his marching orders.Shrek also has a bit of a rep for diving so I don't think he is as untouchable as some think.
And as to refs wanting to be in the frame for reffing the rags.
I don't think thats the case and most of them see reffing matches in the CL or the WC and the stacks of other big tournies as more of a pinnacle than a rag match.

FFS!!!! - do you know what - I really try with you - I absolutely try and ignore the 'suspicions' others have about you - after all if people all had the same opinions what use is the forum???

But FFS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!................. no lets look at this calmly........

1/ You say: "Shrek also has a bit of a rep for diving so I don't think he is as untouchable as some think."

and this guy got booked only once last year!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! FFS that is off the scale unbelievable for one of the dirtiest cunts in the game - but if, as you say, he has a rep for diving - when was he booked for it? - Does that not somewhat prove the point??? Please do not prevaricate - please just answer what I have asked twice now - had that been wooney (instead of Torres) do you think that he would have been sent off??

What a load of bollox.How come Clattercunt got the olympic final whilst he was banned by that cunt.
Cos your in some dreamland where you think every fucker wants to ref the rags get fuckin real and see there are much bigger games here that will get refs big games.The London derbies,The north east derby,Scouse derby as examples.Every week you will if you get over your inferioity complex the rags game is overshaddowed.

Disagreeing with a knob like you aint putting my Man City down

The request made was:

Please do not prevaricate - please just answer what I have asked twice now - had that been wooney (instead of Torres) do you think that he would have been sent off??

Is it possible for you do answer a straight question??

[Rag_hater]

Sorry RH - the big difference - and why it does need to be mentioned again and again - lest we forget is that with regard to the rags it is a factual position on 100% of the refs that officiated the games that they lost - and of course twattenbur continued the cycle!!!!

Anyway more to the point - re the 2nd question - had that been wooney do you think that he would have been sent off???

As to the Shrek issue I think it's the kind of thing Clattercunt revels in and would have no problem giving him his marching orders.Shrek also has a bit of a rep for diving so I don't think he is as untouchable as some think.
And as to refs wanting to be in the frame for reffing the rags.
I don't think thats the case and most of them see reffing matches in the CL or the WC and the stacks of other big tournies as more of a pinnacle than a rag match.

FFS!!!! - do you know what - I really try with you - I absolutely try and ignore the 'suspicions' others have about you - after all if people all had the same opinions what use is the forum???

But FFS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!................. no lets look at this calmly........

1/ You say: "Shrek also has a bit of a rep for diving so I don't think he is as untouchable as some think."

and this guy got booked only once last year!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! FFS that is off the scale unbelievable for one of the dirtiest cunts in the game - but if, as you say, he has a rep for diving - when was he booked for it? - Does that not somewhat prove the point??? Please do not prevaricate - please just answer what I have asked twice now - had that been wooney (instead of Torres) do you think that he would have been sent off??

What a load of bollox.How come Clattercunt got the olympic final whilst he was banned by that cunt.
Cos your in some dreamland where you think every fucker wants to ref the rags get fuckin real and see there are much bigger games here that will get refs big games.The London derbies,The north east derby,Scouse derby as examples.Every week you will if you get over your inferioity complex the rags game is overshaddowed.

Disagreeing with a knob like you aint putting my Man City down

The request made was:

Please do not prevaricate - please just answer what I have asked twice now - had that been wooney (instead of Torres) do you think that he would have been sent off??

Is it possible for you do answer a straight question??

I said he would have no problem does that compute for you as a yes cos thats whatI meant.By the way answer me why Clattercunt got the Olympic Final when he was banned from the swamp.

[Original Dub]

I said he would have no problem does that compute for you as a yes cos thats whatI meant.By the way answer me why Clattercunt got the Olympic Final when he was banned from the swamp.

Whay call him that if you don't think he is a horribly bent ref?

[mcfc1632]

RH - you posted:

"I said he would have no problem does that compute for you as a yes cos thats whatI meant.."

Well my fault then - in some world, probably in some paralell universe that would have been crystal clear...........

So, just to help those of us residing in this one - your clear assertion is that if the Torres/Evans incident had been Wooney and for example Cahill - with Wooney already booked - then IYO - Twattenburg would have sent Wooney off

No more to be said - if that is your absolute clear assertion then - well - simply no more to be said...................

Re the Olympic - final - you make a very good point and if mancityfans maintains a diary then I think that this should be put in there in bold and under-lined.

But I will try and give you a straight answer. I was indeed surprised by that appointment. was it the exception that proves the rule - naw that is prevaricating - I will just man-up and accept that I was very surprised, because even though it was not a UeFA or FIFA competition it was the FIFA refs panel that selected the refs for the WC.

So there you go - that selection totally surprised me and I recognise undermines my POV. You see - that is how you do it - clear and to the point.

Only undermines mind you. If we were keeping a 'score' on here about valid points that are made that undermine the arguments of a poster - well - that is one to you

[Rag_hater]

RH - you posted:

"I said he would have no problem does that compute for you as a yes cos thats whatI meant.."

Well my fault then - in some world, probably in some paralell universe that would have been crystal clear...........

So, just to help those of us residing in this one - your clear assertion is that if the Torres/Evans incident had been Wooney and for example Cahill - with Wooney already booked - then IYO - Twattenburg would have sent Wooney off

No more to be said - if that is your absolute clear assertion then - well - simply no more to be said...................

Re the Olympic - final - you make a very good point and if mancityfans maintains a diary then I think that this should be put in there in bold and under-lined.

But I will try and give you a straight answer. I was indeed surprised by that appointment. was it the exception that proves the rule - naw that is prevaricating - I will just man-up and accept that I was very surprised, because even though it was not a UeFA or FIFA competition it was the FIFA refs panel that selected the refs for the WC.

So there you go - that selection totally surprised me and I recognise undermines my POV. You see - that is how you do it - clear and to the point.

Only undermines mind you. If we were keeping a 'score' on here about valid points that are made that undermine the arguments of a poster - well - that is one to you

Tell me your suprise about the League Cup Final then please.The one 3 months after the 1-6.The one Clattercunt did.Had bacon lifted the ban by then?

[Sister of fu]

Chelsea have formally complained to the Football Association over alleged 'inappropriate language' aimed at John Mikel Obi by referee Mark Clattenburg.
The complaint refers to an incident in the Blues' 3-2 defeat by Manchester United on Sunday.
Chelsea complained to the match delegate and the FA subsequently started an investigation.
The club said there was insufficient evidence to support a claim of alleged verbal abuse against another player.
A Chelsea statement read: "This is a result of a thorough investigation carried out by the club, and led by outside legal counsel, of all information available to us including interviews with a number of players and staff.
"Following Sunday's Premier League game against Manchester United, club board members were quickly made aware, upon entering the home dressing room after the final whistle, that there were allegations of inappropriate language directed at Chelsea players by Mr Clattenburg during the game.
"Board members began establishing the details of the allegations, speaking to all relevant players and staff. After those initial interviews it was clear that the matter had to be reported.
"The correct protocol for doing so was to report the incidents to the match delegate, and the club took immediate steps to inform him as soon as he was available. It was not a decision the club took lightly."

[Sister of fu]

So looking at that above it seems he swore at Mikel. How many times a game do players swear at refs?? If they really are complaining over Clattenburg swearing at a player they really do need to give their heads a good wobble.

[King Kev]

So looking at that above it seems he swore at Mikel. How many times a game do players swear at refs?? If they really are complaining over Clattenburg swearing at a player they really do need to give their heads a good wobble.

If a player swears at a Ref he gets warned or punished (unless it's Rooney) so why should Refs get away with it?

[Douglas Higginbottom]

So looking at that above it seems he swore at Mikel. How many times a game do players swear at refs?? If they really are complaining over Clattenburg swearing at a player they really do need to give their heads a good wobble.

If a player swears at a Ref he gets warned or punished (unless it's Rooney) so why should Refs get away with it?

But isnt the problem that players swear at refs all the time and don't get warned or punished so IF it's only about swearing Chelski are being pathetic imo.

[Sister of fu]

So looking at that above it seems he swore at Mikel. How many times a game do players swear at refs?? If they really are complaining over Clattenburg swearing at a player they really do need to give their heads a good wobble.

If a player swears at a Ref he gets warned or punished (unless it's Rooney) so why should Refs get away with it?

Come on you know it goes on all the time. Jesus everyone likes to tells us it's a man game so they all need to man up and get over themselves. Oh my god the ref swore at a multi million pound footballer.......has the world stop spinning yet??

[Beefymcfc]

So looking at that above it seems he swore at Mikel. How many times a game do players swear at refs?? If they really are complaining over Clattenburg swearing at a player they really do need to give their heads a good wobble.

If a player swears at a Ref he gets warned or punished (unless it's Rooney) so why should Refs get away with it?

Come on you know it goes on all the time. Jesus everyone likes to tells us it's a man game so they all need to man up and get over themselves. Oh my god the ref swore at a multi million pound footballer.......has the world stop spinning yet??

No fan really cares, Jesus led us home.

[Im_Spartacus]

As to the Shrek issue I think it's the kind of thing Clattercunt revels in and would have no problem giving him his marching orders.Shrek also has a bit of a rep for diving so I don't think he is as untouchable as some think.
And as to refs wanting to be in the frame for reffing the rags.
I don't think thats the case and most of them see reffing matches in the CL or the WC and the stacks of other big tournies as more of a pinnacle than a rag match.

Yet he chose not to send rooney off for the elbow on james mccarthy a couple of seasons back, and not to send neville off in a horror tackle vs stoke shortly afterwards, both games, by virtue of having 11 players still on the pitch, united went on to thoroughly undeserved wins and won the title

[kinkylola]

So looking at that above it seems he swore at Mikel. How many times a game do players swear at refs?? If they really are complaining over Clattenburg swearing at a player they really do need to give their heads a good wobble.

If a player swears at a Ref he gets warned or punished (unless it's Rooney) so why should Refs get away with it?

But isnt the problem that players swear at refs all the time and don't get warned or punished so IF it's only about swearing Chelski are being pathetic imo.

I think you have a point, but I don't think it's as simple as that. Firstly, there was quite a big thing made of the "Respect" campaign ... at least for 1 season or so, and that was fine. Players should not be able to freely abuse the officials ... which is totally a different thing than an athlete yelling "oh fuck off!" after a decision against him ... that's just a common expression of frustration across many different professions.

The official however, has to be held to an almost impeccable standard, or as close to it as possible. Make the calls as you see them, and try to be unbiased ... but no matter what you cannot get pulled down to a personal level with the players. Swearing at a player is not a function of the profession, and so it is a personal action. Refs cannot be individual figures, as individuals have bias and play favorites by nature, and that means the objectivity of a match is totally thrown out the window.

If you are the main representative of the FA on the field, then any action you take is an extension of them ... and swearing at players is just not an option. There's too much at risk nowadays, and everyone already thinks the refs are bent, giving them a reason to truly believe is the worst thing you could possibly do.

It's not a man's game anymore ... it's a game of money, and that means that it will be scrutinized by high powered people from every angle. It's sad but true.

Clattenberg is a victim of his own arrogance here, because he does make the games about about him and, in my opinion, refs from a personal POV ... which is wrong and he deserves to be brought up on it.

I don't know if this particular case is true or not, and I have no idea what was said, or if anything was said ... I'll wait for the facts to come out. I think Chelsea must feel they have a strong case as they've gone ahead with the complaint after seeking advisement. Very interested to see how it turns out, but if it is true and it leads to the demolishing of reffing by ego, then I think it's great.

[carl_feedthegoat]

The players should NOT answer back in a foul way to the ref no matter which team they play for, failure to comply will result in a yellow card...that would put an end to this shite , they should follow Rugbys example.

[Alex Sapphire]

The players should NOT answer back in a foul way to the ref no matter which team they play for, failure to comply will result in a yellow card...that would put an end to this shite , they should follow Rugbys example.

agree with you here
this is a new concept (when was the first toime you can remember a player confronting a ref with or without foul language?) and its time the refs cut it out.
We've heard how ineffective the "Kick it Out" campaign has been, well how is this one doing?

[sandman]

The players should NOT answer back in a foul way to the ref no matter which team they play for, failure to comply will result in a yellow card...that would put an end to this shite , they should follow Rugbys example.

Totally agree, they should have more respect.

On the flip side the referee's should earn more respect by being more honest and fair, maybe it is time the ref microphone is heard by the media in the way that it is in the rugby? Or maybe it is time that referee's are interviewed after games to explain how they reach their decisions.