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Re: Rodwell

Postby Ted Hughes » Mon Aug 13, 2012 9:21 pm

london blue 2 wrote:
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Sideshow Bob wrote:moyes will be gone soon imo, so he may not have had much say in this transfer.

That might explain it as well. However, I do think Moyes was hoping to move and getting himself a shot at CL but one thing he wouldn't allow is one of his players going behind his back. He knows what's going on and has total control of his players. If someone moves it is at his price and he'll fight to the end. He has sanctioned this move, he knows where they are and knows where they could've been.


The reason Moyes has let this deal go through after fending off Ferguson for all this time, may well be because in addition to the fee he has perhaps been allowed to talk to some City players re loan deals. It may be that, if some other transfers come in, we will see a player or two going to Everton.

Apparently AJ is odds on to go there


Possible if Sinclair comes in perhaps.
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Re: Rodwell

Postby Socrates » Mon Aug 13, 2012 9:32 pm

GoatersRightShin wrote:Can people not see that if we signed de Rossi, van Persie and Martinez that we'd have about 15 world class players who all believe they should be in the first team. This would lead to squad disruption, players losing confidence and a constant need to keep changing the team even when winning

Last season we had a team that won the league with an unbelievable points total. It was only down to the rags ability to grind out results that we didn't walk the league. We, therefore, dont need to make massive signings.

Mancini is instead looking for good young players who won't expect to be in the first team but will do a job when needed and will improve my training with world class players every day.

In this respect I believe rodwell to be a great signing - yes slightly expensive but that is the inflation that is always going to be associated with city because teams know we have money and will pay unreasonable prices. That's something we will have to live with.


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Re: Rodwell

Postby GoatersRightShin » Mon Aug 13, 2012 9:37 pm

Beefymcfc wrote:<null>


Shit I knew I should have slagged off marwood somewhere to get away with it....
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Re: Rodwell

Postby Beefymcfc » Mon Aug 13, 2012 9:37 pm

Ted Hughes wrote:
Beefymcfc wrote:
Sideshow Bob wrote:moyes will be gone soon imo, so he may not have had much say in this transfer.

That might explain it as well. However, I do think Moyes was hoping to move and getting himself a shot at CL but one thing he wouldn't allow is one of his players going behind his back. He knows what's going on and has total control of his players. If someone moves it is at his price and he'll fight to the end. He has sanctioned this move, he knows where they are and knows where they could've been.


The reason Moyes has let this deal go through after fending off Ferguson for all this time, may well be because in addition to the fee he has perhaps been allowed to talk to some City players re loan deals. It may be that, if some other transfers come in, we will see a player or two going to Everton.

Or maybe he knew he'd look an arse. Maybe Rodwell realised that he was being played whilst injured just to ensure the fee went up. They took the gamble and failed, now he knows that our Sports Science freaks can sort him out?
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Re: Rodwell

Postby Socrates » Mon Aug 13, 2012 9:51 pm

Mancio4ever wrote:I seem to remember that once there was a report button, but now I can see it.



It's the red exclaimation mark next to the quote button Rog. I remember when one was first introduced on the old site that Dev Alahan (now Moses) reported a post for being "overly sarcastic!" Was funny at the time :D We've had a bit too much sarcasm in this thread too and you took some literally from Ted earlier on which I guess was lost in translation. I'm absolutely sure that his comment that maybe Mancini should resign was totally not literal.

My friend, you are clearly worried that our passionate Italian manager will throw a strop at some point over Marwood, much like your own, and that surely is what is driving your posts. I hope you are wrong about Marwood and have no idea of the truth, but I am sure you know that if there was real evidence that you were right that I would be joining you 100% along with many others! Maybe you have an insight on this that others of us don't? I just think we need to step back for a moment and let Khaldoon do his job...
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Re: Rodwell

Postby Crossie » Mon Aug 13, 2012 10:37 pm

Something fishy about this transfer. We nicked Lescott off them and Moyles cried his eyes out and started a blood feud between him and us.

Then we seemingly nick Rodwell, hyped as a fantastic young player, after Moyes kept Fergie at bay for 2 years over him but we see no hate quotes at City this time. No mention at all of his hatred that we are again taking his best players.

All quite strange.
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Re: Rodwell

Postby bigblue » Mon Aug 13, 2012 10:44 pm

Crossie wrote:Something fishy about this transfer. We nicked Lescott off them and Moyles cried his eyes out and started a blood feud between him and us.

Then we seemingly nick Rodwell, hyped as a fantastic young player, after Moyes kept Fergie at bay for 2 years over him but we see no hate quotes at City this time. No mention at all of his hatred that we are again taking his best players.

All quite strange.


Maybe because Marwood did a fantastic job this time?

But I wouldn't be surprised if AJ or another player goes in the other direction soon, even if on loan
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Re: Rodwell

Postby ronk » Mon Aug 13, 2012 11:35 pm

bigblue wrote:
Maybe because Marwood did a fantastic job this time?

But I wouldn't be surprised if AJ or another player goes in the other direction soon, even if on loan


It's the agents. We aren't paying them lump sums above their normal fees. They're not there to start a bidding war, it's quick clean deals that then suit all parties. Everton were giving it large about all the interest when they wanted to build hype.

Undisclosed is good for complicated fee structures and easier for Everton fans.

The pattern for agents trying to get a lump sum has been to keep the deal all over the media and then leave everyone under pressure to finish it when you become the roadblock.
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Re: Rodwell

Postby dazby » Mon Aug 13, 2012 11:51 pm

Mancio4ever, the mods have taken your complaint very seriously and have asked me to respond on their behalf. After much discussion it was decided that ADVT will be publicly hanged at a venue of your choosing. The costs will come from ADVT's personal expense account at the legends lounge.

As recompense to you, the mods have decided that the best form of compensation is to offer you cheap car parking for your next visit to Manchester. Please log on to www.cheaparseairportparking.co.uk and look at how much you can save.


(nb. This may not be an official response, but I'd like it if it was.)
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Re: Rodwell

Postby Alioune DVToure » Tue Aug 14, 2012 1:36 am

dazby wrote:Mancio4ever, the mods have taken your complaint very seriously and have asked me to respond on their behalf. After much discussion it was decided that ADVT will be publicly hanged at a venue of your choosing. The costs will come from ADVT's personal expense account at the legends lounge.

As recompense to you, the mods have decided that the best form of compensation is to offer you cheap car parking for your next visit to Manchester. Please log on to www.cheaparseairportparking.co.uk and look at how much you can save.

(nb. This may not be an official response, but I'd like it if it was.)


Update: I had my death sentence commuted because, following a psychological evaluation, I was declared unfit to stand trial.

My joy was short-lived, however, as the state of Texas intervened to say that they'd gladly do it.
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Re: Rodwell

Postby Socrates » Tue Aug 14, 2012 1:54 am

Alioune DVToure wrote:
dazby wrote:Mancio4ever, the mods have taken your complaint very seriously and have asked me to respond on their behalf. After much discussion it was decided that ADVT will be publicly hanged at a venue of your choosing. The costs will come from ADVT's personal expense account at the legends lounge.

As recompense to you, the mods have decided that the best form of compensation is to offer you cheap car parking for your next visit to Manchester. Please log on to http://www.cheaparseairportparking.co.uk and look at how much you can save.

(nb. This may not be an official response, but I'd like it if it was.)


Update: I had my death sentence commuted because, following a psychological evaluation, I was declared unfit to stand trial.

My joy was short-lived, however, as the state of Texas intervened to say that they'd gladly do it.


That's generalising and anti-Texan.
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Re: Rodwell

Postby Alioune DVToure » Tue Aug 14, 2012 2:27 am

Socrates wrote:
That's generalising and anti-Texan.


Ah but it's topical, irreverent, and yet grounded in reality.

I'm sure your secret order of persecuted American atheists would get it.
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Re: Rodwell

Postby Socrates » Tue Aug 14, 2012 2:30 am

Alioune DVToure wrote:
Socrates wrote:
That's generalising and anti-Texan.


Ah but it's topical, irreverent, and yet grounded in reality.

I'm sure your secret order of persecuted American atheists would get it.


I have some topical cream, doesn't seem to do much though...
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Re: Rodwell

Postby stevefromdonny » Tue Aug 14, 2012 6:21 am

so who is rodwell
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Re: Rodwell

Postby Niall Quinns Discopants » Tue Aug 14, 2012 6:42 am

Alioune DVToure wrote:At the beginning of the close season I said I'd be happy if we made no new signings. There was no need to overhaul or even refurbish a young team that was continuing to improve.



I actually agree with you funnily enough considering the opinions I've posted. Especially if there was no real talent available. However that is besides the point. MANCINI wanted additions and Marwood has been unable to deliver them so far (I doubt Rodwell was his his number one or even number ten target). Mancini (and the lads of course) has won us FA Cup and League. If he wants additions then he clearly should have upper hand over Marwood who is there "to sign the checks" to use cliché.
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Re: Rodwell

Postby Beefymcfc » Tue Aug 14, 2012 6:51 am

Niall Quinns Discopants wrote:
Alioune DVToure wrote:At the beginning of the close season I said I'd be happy if we made no new signings. There was no need to overhaul or even refurbish a young team that was continuing to improve.



I actually agree with you funnily enough considering the opinions I've posted. Especially if there was no real talent available. However that is besides the point. MANCINI wanted additions and Marwood has been unable to deliver them so far (I doubt Rodwell was his his number one or even number ten target). Mancini (and the lads of course) has won us FA Cup and League. If he wants additions then he clearly should have upper hand over Marwood who is there "to sign the checks" to use cliché.

Still harping on. It'll be a good excuse if we don't win any silverware.
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Re: Rodwell

Postby Slim » Tue Aug 14, 2012 6:53 am

Beefymcfc wrote:
Niall Quinns Discopants wrote:
Alioune DVToure wrote:At the beginning of the close season I said I'd be happy if we made no new signings. There was no need to overhaul or even refurbish a young team that was continuing to improve.



I actually agree with you funnily enough considering the opinions I've posted. Especially if there was no real talent available. However that is besides the point. MANCINI wanted additions and Marwood has been unable to deliver them so far (I doubt Rodwell was his his number one or even number ten target). Mancini (and the lads of course) has won us FA Cup and League. If he wants additions then he clearly should have upper hand over Marwood who is there "to sign the checks" to use cliché.

Still harping on. It'll be a good excuse if we don't win any silverware.


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Re: Rodwell

Postby Socrates » Tue Aug 14, 2012 6:56 am

Niall Quinns Discopants wrote:
Alioune DVToure wrote:At the beginning of the close season I said I'd be happy if we made no new signings. There was no need to overhaul or even refurbish a young team that was continuing to improve.



I actually agree with you funnily enough considering the opinions I've posted. Especially if there was no real talent available. However that is besides the point. MANCINI wanted additions and Marwood has been unable to deliver them so far (I doubt Rodwell was his his number one or even number ten target). Mancini (and the lads of course) has won us FA Cup and League. If he wants additions then he clearly should have upper hand over Marwood who is there "to sign the checks" to use cliché.


Every manager in the world will always say they'd like a couple more players, doesn't mean they can or should be provided regardless of cost or budgetary constraints!
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Re: Rodwell

Postby Crossie » Tue Aug 14, 2012 7:34 am

I can't imagine why Mancini didnt negotiate transfer dealings into his new contract. He was clearly wanting the power before he won the league.

I can only think that the owners prefer Mancini to make a list of targets and let Marwood concentrate on it.

To be honest if Mancini did have the powers, who's to say he'd do a better job? Transfers to us both in and out must be fucking complex and taxing on the brain to say the least. Its just frustrating that we have an annoyed manager and no word from Marwood about what has been going on.
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Re: Rodwell

Postby Slim » Tue Aug 14, 2012 8:03 am

Crossie wrote:I can't imagine why Mancini didnt negotiate transfer dealings into his new contract. He was clearly wanting the power before he won the league.

I can only think that the owners prefer Mancini to make a list of targets and let Marwood concentrate on it.

To be honest if Mancini did have the powers, who's to say he'd do a better job? Transfers to us both in and out must be fucking complex and taxing on the brain to say the least. Its just frustrating that we have an annoyed manager and no word from Marwood about what has been going on.


I know, but I think they need to get a little team harmony happening in the back room as well as on the pitch. Having Mancini and Marwood at loggerheads is going to hurt us on the pitch eventually, everything flows downhill and Khaldoon, Marwood and Mancini are the peak.
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