Bridge'srightfoot wrote:Ted, If Chelsea commit 4 fouls in their box tonight I would fully expect 4 penalties, wouldn't class it as lucky either.
I would, because you know & I know that it will never happen. If Chelsea are 3-0 up & we get two incorrect penalties given in our favour, I would class it as bordering on corruption, yet it actually happened. If that was a pub quiz question, it would get binned because nobody would ever guess wrongly when asked which fucking team it was against.
Here's one for you :
So what is 'deliberate' handball?
In Fifa's Laws of the Game 2005, Law 12 says a free-kick or penalty will be awarded if a player "
handles the ball deliberately (except for the goalkeeper within his own penalty area)".
Page 67 of the document gives "additional information for referees, assistant referees and fourth officials".
It adds: "Referees are reminded that deliberately handling the ball is normally punished only by a direct free-kick or penalty kick if the offence occurred inside the penalty area.
"A caution or dismissal is not normally required."
However, the document fails to describe what constitutes deliberate handball, which places the responsibility firmly on the referee and referees' assistants.
Former Premier League referee David Elleray said the referee's interpretation depends on whether the hand or arm is in an "unnatural" position at the point of contact.
"Referees look at two specifics - did the hand or arm go towards the ball or in a manner which would block the ball, or is the hand in a position where it would not normally be?" Elleray told BBC Sport.
"The challenging decisions are if the defending player spreads their arms to make themselves bigger.
"If the ball hits the arm then the referee must decide whether this action was to deliberately block the ball or whether the player has raised their arms to protect themselves - especially if the ball is hit at speed."So it's 0-0 in a top of the table clash v MaaanU, you are the ref, A Spurs player directs the ball toward Utd's goal only for it to strike a team mate preventing it from going into the net, the team mate then backheels the ball over the line.
Using the rules above do you
A: Give a goal as nobody in their right mind would actually try to stop a ball going into the opponent's net when stood a yard off the goal line.
B: Give a goal as the player's hand was not in an unnatural position, & even if it was; nobody in their right mind would actually try to stop a ball going into the opponent's net when stood a yard off the goal line.
C: Disallow the goal as it could cost Manchester Utd the title, as they're getting fucking battered here & I'll get the blame.
The answer is C: Disallow the goal as it could cost Manchester Utd the title, as they're getting fucking battered here & I'll get the blame.
I t is a top of the table clash between Liverpool & Man City. Reina comes rushing out of his penalty area with both arms stuck out at right angles to his body & Sergio Aguero running past him, as the ball hits his outsretched arm.
Using the rules above, do you
A: Send him off.
B: Let him off as it's only Man City & this is Anfield so I don't want to upset Kenny Dalglish.
The Answer is B: Let him off as it's only Man City & this is Anfield so I don't want to upset Kenny Dalglish.
It is the semi final of the League Cup, the ball hits Micah Richards on his arm, tucked into his body, tutned away from the ball..
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