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by Goataldo » Tue Jan 11, 2011 11:19 pm
Weird isn't it, this is a nostalgic thread nowadays....
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by french_tony » Tue Jan 11, 2011 11:21 pm
Thought Weaver was also worth at least a call up to the squad, cannot believe Richard Wright was capped over him.
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by 9secondlegend » Tue Jan 11, 2011 11:57 pm
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by Ted Hughes » Wed Jan 12, 2011 1:25 am
Out of the players I've seen, the glaringly obvious one is definitely Alan Oakes.
When you look at some of the centre backs, midfielders & fullbacks who've played for England over the last 20 years or so, Tommy Booth & Paul Power are bloody unlucky never to have had a sniff in more than one position.
If the question was to be asked about players who played but didn't play enough at international level, there would be scores of them.
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by Cityfan » Wed Jan 12, 2011 7:33 am
Not really a suprise but Tony Book was one of the best fullbacks we have had.
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by s1ty m » Wed Jan 12, 2011 10:03 am
oakes, booth, ian brightwell. paul lake. i think.
After the ball was centred, after the whistle blew...
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by Mase » Wed Jan 12, 2011 10:07 am
HeyMark wrote:Although not always his biggest fan, Ned should have been worth a call up by now
Seriously??
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by Mikhail Chigorin » Wed Jan 12, 2011 1:24 pm
Blue2 wrote:Was thinking about Neil young on Sunday and brought this question to mind. Nellie was a good player but not quite good enough to play for England.I always thought that Alan Oakes was unlucky never to be capped.
Others?
IMHO opinion, big Neil WAS more than good enough to play for England - he was incomparably wonderful in an era when there was an abundance of fine (English) players; it's Alf Ramsay who was the dumb-head for not selecting him.
As for the great Alan Oakes, he was a veritable dreadnought of a player and should have had a boatload of International caps......not that I'm unduly biased in any way........
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by circumspect » Wed Jan 12, 2011 2:54 pm
Alan Oakes and pre-injury Glyn Pardoe.
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by ryanmcfc » Wed Jan 12, 2011 2:56 pm
Mase wrote:HeyMark wrote:Although not always his biggest fan, Ned should have been worth a call up by now
Seriously??
I don't think that's an outrageous shout. Is he really that much worse than Glen Johnson?
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by Manx Blue » Wed Jan 12, 2011 3:07 pm
s1ty m wrote:oakes, booth, ian brightwell. paul lake. i think.
I don't think Brightwell was ever good enough to be selected in one position, but as a squad utility player due to his versatility he could have been beneficial. Lake was selected for the 1990 WC 40 don't forget.
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by circumspect » Wed Jan 12, 2011 3:11 pm
Caps were so much harder to win up until a couple of decades ago.
Only a couple of subs allowed and all the games meant something none of these warm up games and matches against mickey mouse sides where the manager can have a look at fringe players.
There were a few "B Internationals" and FA XI matches for that but an international cap was very much only given to a select few.
No disrespect to Ned but if you had seen the likes of Oakesy play you would realise the gulf between the two.
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by Mase » Wed Jan 12, 2011 3:32 pm
ryanmcfc wrote:Mase wrote:HeyMark wrote:Although not always his biggest fan, Ned should have been worth a call up by now
Seriously??
I don't think that's an outrageous shout. Is he really that much worse than Glen Johnson?
Yes.
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by Mikhail Chigorin » Wed Jan 12, 2011 3:39 pm
On this Internationals theme, just to digress a little, one of the best England Managers we never had (well sort of) was Joe Mercer.
He took over in the 70s on a short term/caretaker basis and announced that his role was just to keep things ticking over and not change anything until a permanent selection could be made.
He then proceeded to completely revamp the way England played and, although he only had half a dozen games, or so, in charge, the National team started playing in the Mercer way with freedom and imagination (rather than the dull and staid Ramsay et al fashion). It was really good stuff to watch and successful too - just a pity the FA morons didn't try harder to get Joe to stay on permanently.
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by ryanmcfc » Wed Jan 12, 2011 4:31 pm
Mase wrote:ryanmcfc wrote:Mase wrote:HeyMark wrote:Although not always his biggest fan, Ned should have been worth a call up by now
Seriously??
I don't think that's an outrageous shout. Is he really that much worse than Glen Johnson?
Yes.
Like the original poster said, I'm not a huge fan of Ned's however, he's been pretty good this season, much better than Johnson. Zonal Marking had him in his English team of the season so far. (Whatever that's worth).
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by Chinners » Wed Jan 12, 2011 7:08 pm
I know he got one ill-fated cap but David White should of had a bagful in his pomp.
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by Jon London » Fri Jan 14, 2011 12:47 am
England it is 100% Paul Power
For Rest of World it is Distin (I hate to admit it but he was a very good CB)
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by Blue2 » Fri Jan 14, 2011 10:16 am
Jon London wrote:England it is 100% Paul Power
For Rest of World it is Distin (I hate to admit it but he was a very good CB)
Really?, I always thought Paul Power was shit and only got half decent after he moved to Everton.
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by circumspect » Fri Jan 14, 2011 4:30 pm
Blue2 wrote:Jon London wrote:England it is 100% Paul Power
For Rest of World it is Distin (I hate to admit it but he was a very good CB)
Really?, I always thought Paul Power was shit and only got half decent after he moved to Everton.
Paul was a typical late developer.
A below par LM he worked hard and became a pretty good LB for us and fitted right into the style Everton had developed.
Industrious and intelligent all he lacked was that bit of magic that seperates class players from the nearly men like Paul.
Cracking goal to get us to Wembley in 81 though. I was standing right behind the goal in which he lashed the free kick.
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by Jon London » Fri Jan 14, 2011 6:12 pm
He was City captain 400+ appearances took us to Wembley with the goal vs Ipswich and won the league with Everton. When he scored for Everton against City he refused to celebrate. Legend.
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