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by CityGer » Thu May 06, 2010 8:16 pm
edge275 wrote:I'm afraid Kolo Toure ain't up to top 4. He's put in some decent performances at times this year but to get to the top you have to be brutal so ship the cunt out along with Bridge, SWP, Richards, RSC and a few others I'll have to think about.
Yeah, but what is best for Edge????
How does our current squad compare to a Nat West Current Acount?
we've got love bites and everything
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by Grob » Thu May 06, 2010 8:56 pm
Not massive on Toure, panics too much. I'd be happy to see him moved on in the summer. I'd be comfortable with Vince and Jocott first choice with Nedum, Richards and Boyata backing up in that order.
Might help us develop the latter 3 a little more aswell.
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by anthonytomo » Thu May 06, 2010 9:18 pm
thought he had a decent game last night against, what I thought was a quality performance from the freak. But, he's not impressed me too much over the entire season. Vinny and Lescott's the future.
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by Dameerto » Thu May 06, 2010 10:34 pm
dazby wrote:One of our best players last night.
For the second game in a row.
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by Renato_CTID » Thu May 06, 2010 11:00 pm
Slim wrote:Renato_CTID wrote:Green & Blue wrote:Jesus this thread is embarrassing, some of the coments are way over the top.
I felt he played very well last night and has been in much better form in the second half of the season.
But he doesn't deserve to stay as a captain at our club!
OUR club? OUR club isn't AC Milan and OUR Captain doesn't play for them.
I'm talking here only of City, not of AC, mate! But I reckon actually Tourè could be OK for AC, maybe Mancio will try to sell him to an Italian club for me!
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by Longball » Fri May 07, 2010 9:25 pm
Toure cannot win the ball in the air AT ALL and gives the looks at other defenders when there is a near mix up r a corner- he gives me a laugh
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by M147WN » Sat May 08, 2010 1:01 am
Kolo didn't have a bad game and many are jumping on him as a scapegoat.
The fact that he became a defender when his early career was spent as a midfielder gets highlighted and its true he's not your out and out central defender!
But the real problem (as has been highlighted many times before) is if central midfield is not strong enough (and attacking enough) we spend too much time on the back foot putting undue pressure on the back 4. In time no matter how good your back 4 is it will be broached!
The truth is that we have no one in central midfield to relieve the pressure on the defence and turn the tables so we dictate what happens with respect to going forward. (Modric ???)
Very easy to blame the defence for loosing games but in my opinion when 11 men gel its a natural reaction for midfielders to protect defence. This hasn't happened for me and although the back 4 have made mistakes and could be labelled culpable its not just their fault!!
Midfield must look at its self and ask if they provided adequate cover. I'd say they didn't! I have to agree that maybe kolo's time is limited.
This is all fine if there is available quality cover from midfield!!
We fucked up big time in the Jan transfer window by not helping defence out (and urging us forward) by aquiring the players we needed.
For this I blame Mancini not one jot!!
He obviously targeted his men but the tossers who look after the paperwork just weren't on the ball and hence when it comes to the games against quality opponents ... we fail!!
Don't blame it all on Kolo ... threre are others far more guilty than him!

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by john@staustell » Sat May 08, 2010 1:35 am
M147WN wrote:Kolo didn't have a bad game and many are jumping on him as a scapegoat.
The fact that he became a defender when his early career was spent as a midfielder gets highlighted and its true he's not your out and out central defender!
But the real problem (as has been highlighted many times before) is if central midfield is not strong enough (and attacking enough) we spend too much time on the back foot putting undue pressure on the back 4. In time no matter how good your back 4 is it will be broached!
The truth is that we have no one in central midfield to relieve the pressure on the defence and turn the tables so we dictate what happens with respect to going forward. (Modric ???)
Very easy to blame the defence for loosing games but in my opinion when 11 men gel its a natural reaction for midfielders to protect defence. This hasn't happened for me and although the back 4 have made mistakes and could be labelled culpable its not just their fault!!
Midfield must look at its self and ask if they provided adequate cover. I'd say they didn't! I have to agree that maybe kolo's time is limited.
This is all fine if there is available quality cover from midfield!!
We fucked up big time in the Jan transfer window by not helping defence out (and urging us forward) by aquiring the players we needed.
For this I blame Mancini not one jot!!
He obviously targeted his men but the tossers who look after the paperwork just weren't on the ball and hence when it comes to the games against quality opponents ... we fail!!
Don't blame it all on Kolo ... threre are others far more guilty than him!
I agree but would point out that a major problem is our full backs, whichever of them plays. None are good enough for our now-advanced level and this puts pressure both on the CBs and the left and right midfielders.
If Toure was surrounded by 10 other class competent players he would not look out of place. Much like at Arsenal really.
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by Niall Quinns Discopants » Sat May 08, 2010 5:50 am
john@staustell wrote:M147WN wrote:Kolo didn't have a bad game and many are jumping on him as a scapegoat.
The fact that he became a defender when his early career was spent as a midfielder gets highlighted and its true he's not your out and out central defender!
But the real problem (as has been highlighted many times before) is if central midfield is not strong enough (and attacking enough) we spend too much time on the back foot putting undue pressure on the back 4. In time no matter how good your back 4 is it will be broached!
The truth is that we have no one in central midfield to relieve the pressure on the defence and turn the tables so we dictate what happens with respect to going forward. (Modric ???)
Very easy to blame the defence for loosing games but in my opinion when 11 men gel its a natural reaction for midfielders to protect defence. This hasn't happened for me and although the back 4 have made mistakes and could be labelled culpable its not just their fault!!
Midfield must look at its self and ask if they provided adequate cover. I'd say they didn't! I have to agree that maybe kolo's time is limited.
This is all fine if there is available quality cover from midfield!!
We fucked up big time in the Jan transfer window by not helping defence out (and urging us forward) by aquiring the players we needed.
For this I blame Mancini not one jot!!
He obviously targeted his men but the tossers who look after the paperwork just weren't on the ball and hence when it comes to the games against quality opponents ... we fail!!
Don't blame it all on Kolo ... threre are others far more guilty than him!
I agree but would point out that a major problem is our full backs, whichever of them plays. None are good enough for our now-advanced level and this puts pressure both on the CBs and the left and right midfielders.
If Toure was surrounded by 10 other class competent players he would not look out of place. Much like at Arsenal really.
that's the thing, for the last year and a half he looked completely out of place in Arsenal.
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by Slim » Sat May 08, 2010 5:52 am
Niall Quinns Discopants wrote:that's the thing, for the last year and a half he looked completely out of place in Arsenal.
Helps if you can have a talk to your defensive partner, which was made very public that he and Gallas weren't speaking at all.
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