IS Bobby Mancini THE MAN?

[gaudy]

If Tevez scores six - goes onto the be the golden boot - who do you think would get the POTY award by the press??? - yeah Rooney (unless after the 'justified' tribute to Giggs last season it is Scholes's turn)

very true about the golden boot..............think chuckle deserves the tribute though!

[ant london]

For the record....and irrespective of how Saturday pans out....the more I see the more convinced I am that he is the right man.

I've certainly seen enough to convince me that he fully deserves a full season next year to have a proper tilt at the title.

[saulman]

For the record....and irrespective of how Saturday pans out....the more I see the more convinced I am that he is the right man.

I've certainly seen enough to convince me that he fully deserves a full season next year to have a proper tilt at the title.

Agree with this. I can't think of anyone right now who deserves to knock him out of a job. Mourinho and Hiddink included.

[btajim]

For the record....and irrespective of how Saturday pans out....the more I see the more convinced I am that he is the right man.

I've certainly seen enough to convince me that he fully deserves a full season next year to have a proper tilt at the title.

One full season to have a go for the Title? Is that enough? This is a long term project and stability is needed throughout the Club. If he only got all of 2010/11 then that means he barely got longer than Hughes and less time than Pearce.

I'd be delighted with 3rd next season and us getting second in the Group stages of the Champions League. Let's be realistic.

[john@staustell]

Dont agree Jim. The form we have shown of late makes us title contenders going into next season, especially as we seem to have learned to win away after 40 years. Most of our erratic resluts were in the first half of the season, and we have improved since then, for whatever reason.

We are a rapidly improving side whereas the ´Big 4` are all in decline, with the possible exception of Arsenal.

I´m sure the bookies will have us up there for next season once we´ve signed a couple of players.

[stinky pete]

bobby mancs tactics against the scum this season have been bollocks defend and catch them on the break? not good .

[mcfc1632]

bobby mancs tactics against the scum this season have been bollocks defend and catch them on the break? not good .

Long day - up and back from Berkshire - having to listen to the Spurs game on the way back - so avoided posting straight away in case it was just anger - but the tactics yesterday were inept - we made Scholes look like the player he was 15 years ago - in fact better than he has ever actually been.

We needed to stop all this 'showing them too much respect' crap and giving them so much space in MF - the scum are not a great team nowadays at all and fall apart when you get at them from the off - Spurs showed us how it should be done when they played Chelsea later - and unfortunately that means they may well get a result at the swamp!!

The subs were not bad - but some should have been made at half time - or earlier - Johnson seemed in awe of Evra - I would have swapped him around with Bellers and let him have a go at ugly twat - and given that Evra is a top player and twatface is shite - why did we play mostly down their strong side!!

Big negative for me yesterday

[johnny crossan]

bobby mancs tactics against the scum this season have been bollocks defend and catch them on the break? not good .

Long day - up and back from Berkshire - having to listen to the Spurs game on the way back - so avoided posting straight away in case it was just anger - but the tactics yesterday were inept - we made Scholes look like the player he was 15 years ago - in fact better than he has ever actually been.

We needed to stop all this 'showing them too much respect' crap and giving them so much space in MF - the scum are not a great team nowadays at all and fall apart when you get at them from the off - Spurs showed us how it should be done when they played Chelsea later - and unfortunately that means they may well get a result at the swamp!!

The subs were not bad - but some should have been made at half time - or earlier - Johnson seemed in awe of Evra - I would have swapped him around with Bellers and let him have a go at ugly twat - and given that Evra is a top player and twatface is shite - why did we play mostly down their strong side!!

Big negative for me yesterday

The pair of you should prepare to eat these words in a couple of weeks.

[mcfc1632]

bobby mancs tactics against the scum this season have been bollocks defend and catch them on the break? not good .

Long day - up and back from Berkshire - having to listen to the Spurs game on the way back - so avoided posting straight away in case it was just anger - but the tactics yesterday were inept - we made Scholes look like the player he was 15 years ago - in fact better than he has ever actually been.

We needed to stop all this 'showing them too much respect' crap and giving them so much space in MF - the scum are not a great team nowadays at all and fall apart when you get at them from the off - Spurs showed us how it should be done when they played Chelsea later - and unfortunately that means they may well get a result at the swamp!!

The subs were not bad - but some should have been made at half time - or earlier - Johnson seemed in awe of Evra - I would have swapped him around with Bellers and let him have a go at ugly twat - and given that Evra is a top player and twatface is shite - why did we play mostly down their strong side!!

Big negative for me yesterday

The pair of you should prepare to eat these words in a couple of weeks.

There is no scenario in which those words could require eating!!

I have been behind Bobby - I still am - lets all hope he learns from yesterday - lets hope that we win the next 4 and get 4th - but that will not change what is a fact - that yesterday's tactics were big time wrong - and unfortunately repeated the mistake he made in the semi - and I would have hoped he would learn from mistakes

Does not mean that I am 'against' him though - you should be able to point out straight forward facts

[johnny crossan]

- but the tactics yesterday were inept - we made Scholes look like the player he was 15 years ago - in fact better than he has ever actually been. We needed to stop all this 'showing them too much respect' crap and giving them so much space in MF - the scum are not a great team nowadays at all and fall apart when you get at them from the off -

The pair of you should prepare to eat these words in a couple of weeks.

There is no scenario in which those words could require eating!!

I have been behind Bobby - I still am - lets all hope he learns from yesterday - lets hope that we win the next 4 and get 4th - but that will not change what is a fact - that yesterday's tactics were big time wrong - and unfortunately repeated the mistake he made in the semi - and I would have hoped he would learn from mistakes

Does not mean that I am 'against' him though - you should be able to point out straight forward facts

Here are some straightforward facts: United are among the top 4 teams in the world. Mancini's tactics against them were not inept they were correct - we were just unlucky.

[btajim]

Here are some straightforward facts: U***d are among the top 4 teams in the world. Mancini's tactics against them were not inept they were correct - we were just unlucky.

You make your own luck. We can't continually just keep missing out to last minute goals. That's 3 times this season. They fight until the end and we need to do the same.

I don't personally think we looked like scoring in open play. That was that goalmouth scramble and a penalty shout. Nothing else. Would've been happy with 0-0.

[Douglas Higginbottom]

Here are some straightforward facts: U***d are among the top 4 teams in the world. Mancini's tactics against them were not inept they were correct - we were just unlucky.

You make your own luck. We can't continually just keep missing out to last minute goals. That's 3 times this season. They fight until the end and we need to do the same.

I don't personally think we looked like scoring in open play. That was that goalmouth scramble and a penalty shout. Nothing else. Would've been happy with 0-0.

I remain concerned that we , whoever we is, would have been happy with a nil nil draw. United are in the top teams in the world but they are not in good form.If we go for victory and draw then fine but it did seem that we didnt set our stall out for a win. Many of the pundits and almost all football fans I have spoken too after the match were confused by City's lack of ambition.

Were our tactics correct? What exactly were they?Were we unlucky?

I certainly thought the team selection was right. It looked an attacking set up but attacking isn't just about giving it to 4 attacking players and saying go on then. For me it's about pressing the opposition as high as possible , pushing them back and supporting the attcking quality that we have. I didn't see us pressing much or certainly not as a team. NDJ had a very good game but the rest seemed off the pace. Seeing that pass to Scholes early on when he was given so much time and space to approach the box and shoot was quite alarming but symptomatic of our lack of energy and positivity on the day.

I don't think we were unlucky

[btajim]

I remain concerned that we , whoever we is, would have been happy with a nil nil draw. U***d are in the top teams in the world but they are not in good form.If we go for victory and draw then fine but it did seem that we didnt set our stall out for a win. Many of the pundits and almost all football fans I have spoken too after the match were confused by City's lack of ambition.

Were our tactics correct? What exactly were they?Were we unlucky?

I certainly thought the team selection was right. It looked an attacking set up but attacking isn't just about giving it to 4 attacking players and saying go on then. For me it's about pressing the opposition as high as possible , pushing them back and supporting the attcking quality that we have. I didn't see us pressing much or certainly not as a team. NDJ had a very good game but the rest seemed off the pace. Seeing that pass to Scholes early on when he was given so much time and space to approach the box and shoot was quite alarming but symptomatic of our lack of energy and positivity on the day.

I don't think we were unlucky

I'd have been happy with 0-0 at Final whistle because we didn't play brilliantly. The difference between us and them is that they work work work until the end of the Match. See my point about 3 last minute Goals in 3 of the last 4 fixtures between us. It can't be a coincidence that they keep doing this to us.

[Douglas Higginbottom]

I would have been happy with a nil nil draw at the end because we didn't play well but before the match I wouldnt have been.
And yes it's no coincidence that they keep doing this to us.

[The Man In Blue]

I would have swapped him around with Bellers and let him have a go at ugly twat - and given that Evra is a top player and twatface is shite - why did we play mostly down their strong side!!

Big negative for me yesterday

this is a good point. but ffs when bellers was beating fuckface, there was never anyone in support!

[johnny crossan]

Here are some straightforward facts: U***d are among the top 4 teams in the world. Mancini's tactics against them were not inept they were correct - we were just unlucky.

You make your own luck. We can't continually just keep missing out to last minute goals. That's 3 times this season. They fight until the end and we need to do the same.

I don't personally think we looked like scoring in open play. That was that goalmouth scramble and a penalty shout. Nothing else. Would've been happy with 0-0.

I remain concerned that we , whoever we is, would have been happy with a nil nil draw. U***d are in the top teams in the world but they are not in good form.If we go for victory and draw then fine but it did seem that we didnt set our stall out for a win. Many of the pundits and almost all football fans I have spoken too after the match were confused by City's lack of ambition.

Were our tactics correct? What exactly were they?Were we unlucky?

I certainly thought the team selection was right. It looked an attacking set up but attacking isn't just about giving it to 4 attacking players and saying go on then. For me it's about pressing the opposition as high as possible , pushing them back and supporting the attcking quality that we have. I didn't see us pressing much or certainly not as a team. NDJ had a very good game but the rest seemed off the pace. Seeing that pass to Scholes early on when he was given so much time and space to approach the box and shoot was quite alarming but symptomatic of our lack of energy and positivity on the day.

[highlight]I don't think we were unlucky[/highlight]

my definition of good luck is the absence of bad luck

[Beefymcfc]

Here are some straightforward facts: U***d are among the top 4 teams in the world. Mancini's tactics against them were not inept they were correct - we were just unlucky.

You make your own luck. We can't continually just keep missing out to last minute goals. That's 3 times this season. They fight until the end and we need to do the same.

I don't personally think we looked like scoring in open play. That was that goalmouth scramble and a penalty shout. Nothing else. Would've been happy with 0-0.

I remain concerned that we , whoever we is, would have been happy with a nil nil draw. U***d are in the top teams in the world but they are not in good form.If we go for victory and draw then fine but it did seem that we didnt set our stall out for a win. Many of the pundits and almost all football fans I have spoken too after the match were confused by City's lack of ambition.

Were our tactics correct? What exactly were they?Were we unlucky?

I certainly thought the team selection was right. It looked an attacking set up but attacking isn't just about giving it to 4 attacking players and saying go on then. For me it's about pressing the opposition as high as possible , pushing them back and supporting the attcking quality that we have. I didn't see us pressing much or certainly not as a team. NDJ had a very good game but the rest seemed off the pace. Seeing that pass to Scholes early on when he was given so much time and space to approach the box and shoot was quite alarming but symptomatic of our lack of energy and positivity on the day.

[highlight]I don't think we were unlucky[/highlight]

my definition of good luck is the absence of bad luck

Luck is basically a game of chance where you don't actually have to do anything to win. Maybe we should just bin the games and roll a dice for the points?

United beat us because we didn't play 'til the final whistle, they did. Mancio set the team out for a draw but hoped to nick it on the break, it didn't work so we move onto Arsenal knowing we can't sit back too much or the game will pass us by. I'm just hoping that all the talk regarding Carlos and Bellers are not upsetting his routine, because if the players are now taking power, god help our run-in!

[Im_Spartacus]

Here are some straightforward facts: U***d are among the top 4 teams in the world. Mancini's tactics against them were not inept they were correct - we were just unlucky.

You make your own luck. We can't continually just keep missing out to last minute goals. That's 3 times this season. They fight until the end and we need to do the same.

I don't personally think we looked like scoring in open play. That was that goalmouth scramble and a penalty shout. Nothing else. Would've been happy with 0-0.

I remain concerned that we , whoever we is, would have been happy with a nil nil draw. U***d are in the top teams in the world but they are not in good form.If we go for victory and draw then fine but it did seem that we didnt set our stall out for a win. Many of the pundits and almost all football fans I have spoken too after the match were confused by City's lack of ambition.

Were our tactics correct? What exactly were they?Were we unlucky?

I certainly thought the team selection was right. It looked an attacking set up but attacking isn't just about giving it to 4 attacking players and saying go on then. For me it's about pressing the opposition as high as possible , pushing them back and supporting the attcking quality that we have. I didn't see us pressing much or certainly not as a team. NDJ had a very good game but the rest seemed off the pace. Seeing that pass to Scholes early on when he was given so much time and space to approach the box and shoot was quite alarming but symptomatic of our lack of energy and positivity on the day.

[highlight]I don't think we were unlucky[/highlight]

my definition of good luck is the absence of bad luck

Luck is basically a game of chance where you don't actually have to do anything to win. Maybe we should just bin the games and roll a dice for the points?

U***d beat us because we didn't play 'til the final whistle, they did. Mancio set the team out for a draw but hoped to nick it on the break, it didn't work so we move onto Arsenal knowing we can't sit back too much or the game will pass us by. I'm just hoping that all the talk regarding Carlos and Bellers are not upsetting his routine, because if the players are now taking power, god help our run-in!

Is it really acceptable to set your team up for a draw, when you have one of the finest home records in the league, beat them on our patch last time round, and play arsenal away the following week. I didnt see Spurs going out for a draw against Chelsea, they could have been winning 8.0 at half time, they knew what they had to do, went out and did it.

It was a severe miscalculation by Mancini if you believe he setout for a draw, bordering on the criminally insane. How often to teams set out to get a draw against them cunts, and lose in the last minute. If he knew his job, he should have known that playing for a draw at home against united is just utterly numb.

I would prefer to think that if Mancini is "the man" he set out for a win, but we just weren't good enough to break them down, not helped by one or two players possibly having their worst games in a city shirt

[Niall Quinns Discopants]

Here are some straightforward facts: U***d are among the top 4 teams in the world. Mancini's tactics against them were not inept they were correct - we were just unlucky.

You make your own luck. We can't continually just keep missing out to last minute goals. That's 3 times this season. They fight until the end and we need to do the same.

I don't personally think we looked like scoring in open play. That was that goalmouth scramble and a penalty shout. Nothing else. Would've been happy with 0-0.

I remain concerned that we , whoever we is, would have been happy with a nil nil draw. U***d are in the top teams in the world but they are not in good form.If we go for victory and draw then fine but it did seem that we didnt set our stall out for a win. Many of the pundits and almost all football fans I have spoken too after the match were confused by City's lack of ambition.

Were our tactics correct? What exactly were they?Were we unlucky?

I certainly thought the team selection was right. It looked an attacking set up but attacking isn't just about giving it to 4 attacking players and saying go on then. For me it's about pressing the opposition as high as possible , pushing them back and supporting the attcking quality that we have. I didn't see us pressing much or certainly not as a team. NDJ had a very good game but the rest seemed off the pace. Seeing that pass to Scholes early on when he was given so much time and space to approach the box and shoot was quite alarming but symptomatic of our lack of energy and positivity on the day.

I don't think we were unlucky

Once again I saw the game very differently to you. I thought we were easily the better team in second half and I don't think Rags had proper shot at goal until they scored. The way were playing I felt convinced we'd score at some stage or at very at least take a point. That's why their winner was such suckerpunch. I spent good hour or so sitting on my chair mouth open before it sink in.

This was very different to previous Derby losses this season. I didn't think we deserved to lose that game at all and felt we were playing quite well considering the opposition and how important it was for both sides. That was one of the most gutting Derby losses ever and there have been fair few to choose from.

[Douglas Higginbottom]

Here are some straightforward facts: U***d are among the top 4 teams in the world. Mancini's tactics against them were not inept they were correct - we were just unlucky.

You make your own luck. We can't continually just keep missing out to last minute goals. That's 3 times this season. They fight until the end and we need to do the same.

I don't personally think we looked like scoring in open play. That was that goalmouth scramble and a penalty shout. Nothing else. Would've been happy with 0-0.

I remain concerned that we , whoever we is, would have been happy with a nil nil draw. U***d are in the top teams in the world but they are not in good form.If we go for victory and draw then fine but it did seem that we didnt set our stall out for a win. Many of the pundits and almost all football fans I have spoken too after the match were confused by City's lack of ambition.

Were our tactics correct? What exactly were they?Were we unlucky?

I certainly thought the team selection was right. It looked an attacking set up but attacking isn't just about giving it to 4 attacking players and saying go on then. For me it's about pressing the opposition as high as possible , pushing them back and supporting the attcking quality that we have. I didn't see us pressing much or certainly not as a team. NDJ had a very good game but the rest seemed off the pace. Seeing that pass to Scholes early on when he was given so much time and space to approach the box and shoot was quite alarming but symptomatic of our lack of energy and positivity on the day.

I don't think we were unlucky

Once again I saw the game very differently to you. I thought we were easily the better team in second half and I don't think Rags had proper shot at goal until they scored. The way were playing I felt convinced we'd score at some stage or at very at least take a point. That's why their winner was such suckerpunch. I spent good hour or so sitting on my chair mouth open before it sink in.

This was very different to previous Derby losses this season. I didn't think we deserved to lose that game at all and felt we were playing quite well considering the opposition and how important it was for both sides. That was one of the most gutting Derby losses ever and there have been fair few to choose from.

As I am sure you have said so often it doesn't matter how well you play or how badly it's the result that counts. I havent found anyone else yet that thought " The way were playing I felt convinced we'd score at some stage " Just a matter of opinion I know but I just don't see it. I simply don't think we played well, okish but not well. I did think we would take a point obviously as the game wore on but as I said I don't think we were unlucky , we sort of invited what happened and guess what it happened.

I do agree though it was more gutting then almost all other losses. We need to go for Arsenal from the start as we can beat them but approach it with full caution and I don't think we will win.