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by Nick » Sat Jun 17, 2023 8:58 am
I don't want to see another captain go in walker... he's also still the fastest there is. Ffs. And helping cunts again.
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by Mase » Sat Jun 17, 2023 11:21 am
Nick wrote:I don't want to see another captain go in walker... he's also still the fastest there is. Ffs. And helping cunts again.
The main issue for me. All well and good for Pep to sit in a press conference and reel off the clubs in England that wanted us out. But he needs to stop helping his former clubs that constantly dig us out
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by Nickyboy » Sat Jun 17, 2023 12:15 pm
Nick wrote:I don't want to see another captain go in walker... he's also still the fastest there is. Ffs. And helping cunts again.
Exactly. He was still clocked at the fastest speed in the league last season and is still excellent.
I think it would be foolish to let him go. He's so dominant on the odd occasion we have to do proper defending such as when he was up against Vini Jnr
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by johnny crossan » Sat Jun 17, 2023 12:22 pm
Lots seems to be going out and nobody nailed on coming in - maybe Pep will just rotate keepers in our 60+ games next season?
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by Nigels Tackle » Sat Jun 17, 2023 12:40 pm
so much doom and gloom re the potential departures...
yes, it's a shame to see some great servants of the club go but you only have to look at our rivals to see what happens if you don't evolve the team.
i think that we'll end up with a stronger, more balanced squad come august when the proper football resumes than we've just finished the season with...
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by Mase » Sat Jun 17, 2023 3:11 pm
Nigels Tackle wrote:so much doom and gloom re the potential departures...
yes, it's a shame to see some great servants of the club go but you only have to look at our rivals to see what happens if you don't evolve the team.
i think that we'll end up with a stronger, more balanced squad come august when the proper football resumes than we've just finished the season with...
To be fair though our rivals are strengthening and we’re losing 5-6 senior players.
I don’t think we’ve potentially lost this amount of first team players in one window before. We’ll see what happens, but it is a bit worrying.
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by sheblue » Sat Jun 17, 2023 3:25 pm
Mase wrote:Nigels Tackle wrote:so much doom and gloom re the potential departures...
yes, it's a shame to see some great servants of the club go but you only have to look at our rivals to see what happens if you don't evolve the team.
i think that we'll end up with a stronger, more balanced squad come august when the proper football resumes than we've just finished the season with...
To be fair though our rivals are strengthening and we’re losing 5-6 senior players.
I don’t think we’ve potentially lost this amount of first team players in one window before. We’ll see what happens, but it is a bit worrying.
I agree. 5 or 6 going in one window is too many. Especially when it might take their replacements 12 months to bed in.
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by Indianablue » Sat Jun 17, 2023 6:40 pm
I can understand Walker going. He is good but he's not flexible in his play and he's not the future. Gundo, Silva, Laporte all have been strongly rumoured to want out, perhaps they should go now. Palmer isn't a favourite for me. Hasnt developed. I think Alvarez, Foden Lewis all have shown they can start games. Mahrez i'd keep, never hear him bitching, Phillips i'd move him on in a shot if we get anywhere near decent money. I reckon we lose about 6, get a few quid and balance the books a bit. Still quite relaxed from last weekend, no pressure now but these guys will want to repeat it even more. Biggest task is keeping Haaland in scoring form and Jack sober.
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by Outcast » Sat Jun 17, 2023 6:55 pm
Indianablue wrote:I can understand Walker going. He is good but he's not flexible in his play and he's not the future. Gundo, Silva, Laporte all have been strongly rumoured to want out, perhaps they should go now. Palmer isn't a favourite for me. Hasnt developed. I think Alvarez, Foden Lewis all have shown they can start games. Mahrez i'd keep, never hear him bitching, Phillips i'd move him on in a shot if we get anywhere near decent money. I reckon we lose about 6, get a few quid and balance the books a bit. Still quite relaxed from last weekend, no pressure now but these guys will want to repeat it even more. Biggest task is keeping Haaland in scoring form and Jack sober.
I don't think books need balancing. We did that last season when we flogged few players. We got a huge transfer kitty from winning the treble. Apart from that, I agree with your other points.
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by Mase » Sat Jun 17, 2023 6:56 pm
Outcast wrote:Indianablue wrote:I can understand Walker going. He is good but he's not flexible in his play and he's not the future. Gundo, Silva, Laporte all have been strongly rumoured to want out, perhaps they should go now. Palmer isn't a favourite for me. Hasnt developed. I think Alvarez, Foden Lewis all have shown they can start games. Mahrez i'd keep, never hear him bitching, Phillips i'd move him on in a shot if we get anywhere near decent money. I reckon we lose about 6, get a few quid and balance the books a bit. Still quite relaxed from last weekend, no pressure now but these guys will want to repeat it even more. Biggest task is keeping Haaland in scoring form and Jack sober.
I don't think books need balancing. We did that last season when we flogged few players. We got a huge transfer kitty from winning the treble. Apart from that, I agree with your other points.
Plus didn’t they report we’ve got £300m just from doing the treble?
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by zuricity » Sat Jun 17, 2023 7:14 pm
Ffs Walker is in the last year of his contract now. He's already said he will see it through . Expect him to take an extention , who wouldn't want to be part of
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by Mase » Sat Jun 17, 2023 8:06 pm
Is that Issa Kabore not due back with us? He’s a RB isn’t he?
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by Indianablue » Sun Jun 18, 2023 7:36 am
Outcast wrote:Indianablue wrote:I can understand Walker going. He is good but he's not flexible in his play and he's not the future. Gundo, Silva, Laporte all have been strongly rumoured to want out, perhaps they should go now. Palmer isn't a favourite for me. Hasnt developed. I think Alvarez, Foden Lewis all have shown they can start games. Mahrez i'd keep, never hear him bitching, Phillips i'd move him on in a shot if we get anywhere near decent money. I reckon we lose about 6, get a few quid and balance the books a bit. Still quite relaxed from last weekend, no pressure now but these guys will want to repeat it even more. Biggest task is keeping Haaland in scoring form and Jack sober.
I don't think books need balancing. We did that last season when we flogged few players. We got a huge transfer kitty from winning the treble. Apart from that, I agree with your other points.
My accountant would say books always need to be balanced but he also says you can't take your money with you why leave it all to the kids, live your life!
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by Indianablue » Sun Jun 18, 2023 7:54 am
Outcast wrote:Indianablue wrote:I can understand Walker going. He is good but he's not flexible in his play and he's not the future. Gundo, Silva, Laporte all have been strongly rumoured to want out, perhaps they should go now. Palmer isn't a favourite for me. Hasnt developed. I think Alvarez, Foden Lewis all have shown they can start games. Mahrez i'd keep, never hear him bitching, Phillips i'd move him on in a shot if we get anywhere near decent money. I reckon we lose about 6, get a few quid and balance the books a bit. Still quite relaxed from last weekend, no pressure now but these guys will want to repeat it even more. Biggest task is keeping Haaland in scoring form and Jack sober.
I don't think books need balancing. We did that last season when we flogged few players. We got a huge transfer kitty from winning the treble. Apart from that, I agree with your other points.
My accountant would say books always need to be balanced but he also says you can't take your money with you why leave it all to the kids, live your life!
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by Outcast » Sun Jun 18, 2023 8:47 am
Indianablue wrote:Outcast wrote:Indianablue wrote:I can understand Walker going. He is good but he's not flexible in his play and he's not the future. Gundo, Silva, Laporte all have been strongly rumoured to want out, perhaps they should go now. Palmer isn't a favourite for me. Hasnt developed. I think Alvarez, Foden Lewis all have shown they can start games. Mahrez i'd keep, never hear him bitching, Phillips i'd move him on in a shot if we get anywhere near decent money. I reckon we lose about 6, get a few quid and balance the books a bit. Still quite relaxed from last weekend, no pressure now but these guys will want to repeat it even more. Biggest task is keeping Haaland in scoring form and Jack sober.
I don't think books need balancing. We did that last season when we flogged few players. We got a huge transfer kitty from winning the treble. Apart from that, I agree with your other points.
My accountant would say books always need to be balanced but he also says you can't take your money with you why leave it all to the kids, live your life!
Time for a new accountant?
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by Mase » Sun Jun 18, 2023 10:30 am
That Tolmie’s Hairdoo bullshiter on BlueMong has said Bayern have offered us Sanè back and he’s spoken with Pep.
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by nottsblue » Sun Jun 18, 2023 10:55 am
Mase wrote:That Tolmie’s Hairdoo bullshiter on BlueMong has said Bayern have offered us Sanè back and he’s spoken with Pep.
On balance I think it's a no from me
Thought he was very good when he was here before and he fitted into our style brilliantly and had the potential to kick on even further. He then decided, or it may have been decided for him by his agent or mother, but either way, that the grass was greener back home at Bayern. And as is so often the case it turns out that it wasn't.
Has he burnt his bridge? Is there space for him in our current set up? Is he good enough? Has the last 3 years at Bayern knocked a bit of confidence and swagger out of him? Could either Foden, Grealish or both play more central to replace Gundogan and/or Bernardo thus making room wide for him?
I guess it depends on who else would be available and the prices involved as to whether this has legs and my uneducated guess would be it hasn't
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by Mase » Sun Jun 18, 2023 11:15 am
nottsblue wrote:Mase wrote:That Tolmie’s Hairdoo bullshiter on BlueMong has said Bayern have offered us Sanè back and he’s spoken with Pep.
On balance I think it's a no from me
Thought he was very good when he was here before and he fitted into our style brilliantly and had the potential to kick on even further. He then decided, or it may have been decided for him by his agent or mother, but either way, that the grass was greener back home at Bayern. And as is so often the case it turns out that it wasn't.
Has he burnt his bridge? Is there space for him in our current set up? Is he good enough? Has the last 3 years at Bayern knocked a bit of confidence and swagger out of him? Could either Foden, Grealish or both play more central to replace Gundogan and/or Bernardo thus making room wide for him?
I guess it depends on who else would be available and the prices involved as to whether this has legs and my uneducated guess would be it hasn't
I’m 50/50. He was class against us in the first leg this season. Could have had a hatrick if it wasn’t for good goalkeeping. He played more central that night and from what I hear he’s been playing more central for Bayern a lot.
Still, not sure where he’d fit in, unless he’s a replacement for Mahrez.
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by MIAMCFC » Sun Jun 18, 2023 12:54 pm
Hypothetically what would be the minimum fees for.
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Bernado 100 mill
Kyle. 35 mill
Laporte. 50 mill
Keeping Bernado would be top of my list and ensure we secure Gundo unless it’s Saudi.
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by nottsblue » Sun Jun 18, 2023 1:06 pm
MIAMCFC wrote:Hypothetically what would be the minimum fees for.
For me
Bernado 100 mill
Kyle. 35 mill
Laporte. 50 mill
Keeping Bernado would be top of my list and ensure we secure Gundo unless it’s Saudi.
Can’t see how we’d get close to any of those fees to be honest. Don’t think anyone has more than 2 years left on their respective contracts. We are hardly going to get more for Silva than Madrid paid for Bellingham. £60-70m at a push is more realistic. And Walker only has one year left and is 32. Be lucky to get £20M for him. Laporte we would only get that if another PL club was in for him and I don’t think he’d go to another English club. Spain is probably his preferred destination and there isn’t as much money floating round in la liga
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