IS Bobby Mancini THE MAN?

[Alex Sapphire]

Call me old fashioned...(as some no doubt will)....but....

When I go for a meal...I enjoy the satifaction of feeling fed...but it is important that I have enjoyed the taste of the food.

But the main thing is to get your stumach full, right?

no, that's how pigeons and pigs think.
The priority is to enjoy a wonderful experience and not to be left hungry

[Dunne's Half-Time Pint]

Yet when we beat RAGS, albeit in one leg only, it don't mean shit???

it didn't mean shit. it was worse than meaningless in fact - the OT leg and the bouncing scum hordes, that disappointment and spineless display, on the biggest game of my lifetime, will stay with me for a while.

[Original Dub]

I was excited as ever up until we scored our second, at which point I knew the game was over. The rush of Adebayors shot hitting the back of the net for instance. Nearly chocking on my nicotine gum as I wasn't really expecting it. the buzz of winning the game.

While it wasn't particularily beautiful, It was still bloody exciting. Regarding Pearce who was mentioned, the quality of football didn't piss me off half as much as the numbness. We went one behind and the game was over. I'd spend following 70 or 80 minutes just waiting for the game to end as I knew we weren't going to get back in the game. He took away THE BUZZ and replaced it with spirit crushing numbness. I haven't got that vibe at any stage under Mancini (and despite all his faults neither did I get it under Hughes).

If Pearce had the squad Mancini has there is no way in hell you would be feeling "numbness". He had a much poorer quad that's why we weren't able to bounce back as often as you may have liked, but I do remember us bouncing back against Villa and against Boro in our most important match.

The only team we've bounced back against was U***d and that's not quite the same, when it was only half a game in reality.

There is no evidence that we will beat top teams, let alone come back and draw against them, so forgive me for not understanding why this brand of football and some of the terrible perfomances coupled with 3 defeats has you "BUZZING" when you say it was so depressing under Pearce?

The only difference I can see SO FAR between Pearce and Mancini is the stars Mancini has at his disposal. Sven would be better, hughes was better IMO. SO FAR that is mind.

I hope to fuck he makes me eat my words and we perform admirably in these crucial upcoming games, but I can't say I'm "BUZZING" at the thoughts of facing top opposition giving how we performed against Hull, Pompey and Bolton.

You weren't saying anything liek that against Hamburg last season. In fact I remember you telling me how brilliant we were despite going out. Yet when we beat RAGS, albeit in one leg only, it don't mean shit???

Yes that hamburg game was one of the most spirited dispays I've ever seen from a city side and it was the best atmosphere I'd ever experienced at a city game. I was so proud that night and I will remember it for the rest of my life.

No I didn't feel that way after we stumbled past U***d in the first leg of the carling cup semi.

And you see no difference? Mad.

I see a difference. Other one is Derby game AND Semi final and other one just means we are out of UEFA Cup. Would be mad to even compare the two.

Oh my god, you actually think the first leg of the carling cup semi was a better game and will live longer in the hearts of the city fans than the Hamburg game last season.

Fucking WOW!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Im_Spartacus]

I see a difference. Other one is Derby game AND Semi final and other one just means we are out of UEFA Cup. Would be mad to even compare the two.

Oh my god, you actually think the first leg of the carling cup semi was a better game and will live longer in the hearts of the city fans than the Hamburg game last season.

Fucking WOW!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

You are both polishing different sides of the same turd here chaps.

I dont give a fuck about playing wonderful flowing football in one leg, if you play like cunts in the other its irrelevant so both ties were failures, regardless how we played. FFS get a grip.

[john68]

Call me old fashioned...(as some no doubt will)....but....

When I go for a meal...I enjoy the satifaction of feeling fed...but it is important that I have enjoyed the taste of the food.

Are you not "pro-stability" if this goes on much longer then?

Yes John. I was under Hughes and I still am under Mancini. I am not calling for his head but I do wish he would not play these tactics with these players. I think we have a squad with so much more to offer. Hopefully, if Mancini stays, he will develop our tactics next season into a more positive style.
On the stability issue; If the rumours are correct and Mancini's job is only 'til the end of the season, depending on results, I can understand why this is happening. It seems almost pointless to look for stability now when this could be a temporary phase we're going through.
Next season is a different ball game and a new man or Mancini should be here for the long haul.

[Im_Spartacus]

Call me old fashioned...(as some no doubt will)....but....

When I go for a meal...I enjoy the satifaction of feeling fed...but it is important that I have enjoyed the taste of the food.

Are you not "pro-stability" if this goes on much longer then?

Yes John. I was under Hughes and I still am under Mancini. I am not calling for his head but I do wish he would not play these tactics with these players. I think we have a squad with so much more to offer. Hopefully, if Mancini stays, he will develop our tactics next season into a more positive style.
On the stability issue; If the rumours are correct and Mancini's job is only 'til the end of the season, depending on results, I can understand why this is happening. It seems almost pointless to look for stability now when this could be a temporary phase we're going through.
Next season is a different ball game and a new man or Mancini should be here for the long haul.

Yes, gotta agree with you on all that. I am sure that he knows he will have to adapt quickly to the attacking nature of this league to be able to extend his tenure, my concern is that with no experience in the league, he just doesn't seem to get it.

I think this league is unique in the world, ridiculously attacking. I just hope he learned something from the last United game, in that its ok being defensive minded, but you will come a cropper when quality teams throw the kitchen sink at you for 95 minutes - something's got to give, as he found out to his cost.

I hope he gets it right, but its worrying when looking around last night, even after we were winning, to hear the frustration being vented, I do think as some others have said, it could turn into almost open hostility if it all goes wrong vs Liverpool / Spuds despite all the warning shots he has had fired across his bows.

Interesting times thats for sure.......2 weeks from now, and it will be so different (one way or another)

[john68]

What increases my frustration is that this is the best squad of players we have had for many years and added to that we are so fucling near to achieving what we have all dreamed about for far too long.
If we win our games in hand we are in 4th spot and if the result tonight goes against Arsenal, we could be on schedule for 3rd place.

All so near...yet all so uncertain. This cautious approach may well prove correct but it doesn't help the pulse rate one little bit. It is because the team seem so uncertain too that makes it worse.

I just wish that Mancini would say fuck it...LET'S GO GET 'EM BOYS...I think I could handle that more easily.

[ronk]

What increases my frustration is that this is the best squad of players we have had for many years and added to that we are so fucling near to achieving what we have all dreamed about for far too long.
If we win our games in hand we are in 4th spot and if the result tonight goes against Arsenal, we could be on schedule for 3rd place.

All so near...yet all so uncertain. This cautious approach may well prove correct but it doesn't help the pulse rate one little bit. It is because the team seem so uncertain too that makes it worse.

I just wish that Mancini would say fuck it...LET'S GO GET 'EM BOYS...I think I could handle that more easily.

Funny how the risk of not making the champions league is so much more frustrating and nerve racking than the worry over relegation.

[Original Dub]

I see a difference. Other one is Derby game AND Semi final and other one just means we are out of UEFA Cup. Would be mad to even compare the two.

Oh my god, you actually think the first leg of the carling cup semi was a better game and will live longer in the hearts of the city fans than the Hamburg game last season.

Fucking WOW!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

You are both polishing different sides of the same turd here chaps.

I dont give a fuck about playing wonderful flowing football in one leg, if you play like cunts in the other its irrelevant so both ties were failures, regardless how we played. FFS get a grip.

chill the fuck out john, my point is that one of those nights was a very special night for me as a city fan because we played with pure passion and fluent football and that is what its all about for me.

Uefa Cup, Hamburg - It was a famous night. It will be remembered.

The first leg against united will not, although I'll always remember it as being the fuck up that cost us a cup final.

[brite blu sky]

What increases my frustration is that this is the best squad of players we have had for many years and added to that we are so fucling near to achieving what we have all dreamed about for far too long.
If we win our games in hand we are in 4th spot and if the result tonight goes against Arsenal, we could be on schedule for 3rd place.

All so near...yet all so uncertain. This cautious approach may well prove correct but it doesn't help the pulse rate one little bit. It is because the team seem so uncertain too that makes it worse.

I just wish that Mancini would say fuck it...LET'S GO GET 'EM BOYS...I think I could handle that more easily.

Could not agree more with what you two johns are saying here..

Deeply worried that Bobby is not up to speed on the Prem and will continue the cautiousness in midfield and shackle the players before they even kick a ball. Hope to fucl i am wrong, but like everyone else the idea of taking on Spuds, Scouce and Chelsea with this approach feels like doom.
My hope is that the players will raise their game and to some extent just take matters into their own hands.. especially if we go one down.. we have seen our best play this season when fighting from behind... Chelsea at home. It is pretty much the same players so they know what they can do even if Bobby is still working on it.

[Niall Quinns Discopants]

I see a difference. Other one is Derby game AND Semi final and other one just means we are out of UEFA Cup. Would be mad to even compare the two.

Oh my god, you actually think the first leg of the carling cup semi was a better game and will live longer in the hearts of the city fans than the Hamburg game last season.

Fucking WOW!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

You are both polishing different sides of the same turd here chaps.

I dont give a fuck about playing wonderful flowing football in one leg, if you play like cunts in the other its irrelevant so both ties were failures, regardless how we played. FFS get a grip.

chill the fuck out john, my point is that one of those nights was a very special night for me as a city fan because we played with pure passion and fluent football and that is what its all about for me.

Uefa Cup, Hamburg - It was a famous night. It will be remembered.
The first leg against U***d will not, although I'll always remember it as being the fuck up that cost us a cup final.

Famous for what? Getting kicked out of UEFA Cup. Talk about cups for cock ups.

League Cup semi wasn't much better but at least it was a derby and served as a remainder to Rags that we are still here despite all the derbies they had won in row.

[brite blu sky]

Funny how the risk of not making the champions league is so much more frustrating and nerve racking than the worry over relegation.

nice one!!

[Original Dub]

NQDP -you haven't a fucking breeze of you think the first leg of the carling cup against United was a bigger night than that special European night against Hamburg.

Fuck it, I'll do poll, that should clear things up....

[The Man In Blue]

To be fair, I admitted that in patches we played better football than I expected when he was appointed. It just wasn't very efective. Sheik seemed to agree with me.

the vast majority of the time you basically labelled him a boring longball merchant who wanted to turn us into a clone of blackburn.

i put it to you: the last fella had us playing much much better footy than Mancio has atm. and before you say it, we have yet to see whether results will be better. the upcoming games vs Spuds, Dippers and Chelski will give us a better idea, but to make a true comparison Mancini should be judged at the end of the season. when he's had the same amount of games with this side as Hughes had this term.

as CARLITOS pointed out, without Magic last night, we would have been a sorry fucking sight to behold.

[ronk]

Funny how the risk of not making the champions league is so much more frustrating and nerve racking than the worry over relegation.

nice one!!

More at stake. We know how to bounce back from failure, we have no idea how to deal with success. As the saying goes, "be careful what you wish for... it might come true".

[Beefymcfc]

Can I add, I am unsure if he can take us to the title, but I reckon he will get us into Europe.

[CitizenYank]

Funny how the risk of not making the champions league is so much more frustrating and nerve racking than the worry over relegation.

nice one!!

More at stake. We know how to bounce back from failure, we have no idea how to deal with success. As the saying goes, "be careful what you wish for... it might come true".

Then let it come true once before we all DIE!!!

[BobKowalski]

Funny how the risk of not making the champions league is so much more frustrating and nerve racking than the worry over relegation.

nice one!!

More at stake. We know how to bounce back from failure, we have no idea how to deal with success. As the saying goes, "be careful what you wish for... it might come true".

I would also add we have no idea what it takes to achieve success either.

Telling the boys to 'go out there and get em' will win you the odd game, produce some exciting draws and get you arse f**ked on a regular basis. Tactics, tempo and team selection will get you so far but what seperates the Chelsea's and others from the rest is mental attitude and the assurance that comes from the knowledge that they know how to win.

Spurs aint got it, neither do Villa. Liverpool do and it is pretty much the only thing that is keeping what is a fairly average team in the fight for 4th. For Arsenal the memory of it is fading from their DNA. Mancini has to graft on this winning mental attitude and the best way to start is too win games. Win them well. Win them badly. Win them luckily and win them ugly. But above all just f**king win.

Everything else is just bollocks and forum chatter.

[eastlandsblue.co.uk]

MAN CITY - MANCINY !! There has got to be a song in that somewhere. Maybe if he succeeds

[Niall Quinns Discopants]

MAN CITY - MANCINY !! There has got to be a song in that somewhere. Maybe if he succeeds

Now I'm going to whisper this quietly but I think we could sign Mido in summer. Would look great on that new Puma kit.