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Big weekend derby & all that, hope Maresco gets the vibe right. Observers will note the 20.00 KO rime for the Arsenal game, this is to give them extra “minutes “ rest after playing in midweek, straight out of the Pep playbook counting “minutes” fucking ridiculous.

Saturday September 12

Villa v Forest 15.00

Bournemouth v Brentford 15.00

Chelsea v Hull 15.00

Palace v Ipswich 15.00

Dippers v Fulham 15.00

Spurs v Everton 17.30 Sky
Tottenham Hotspur

Sunderland v Arsenal 20.00 TNT

Sunday September 13

Coventry v Brighton 14.00 Sky

Rags v City 16.30 Sky

Monday September 14

Leeds v Barcodes 20.00 Sky

It IS ridiculous. You'd have thought they'd be more tired by 8 o'clock at night, I know I would! And to hell with their own fans, having to travel back from Sunderland at 10 o'clock on a Saturday night

john@staustell wrote:It IS ridiculous. You'd have thought they'd be more tired by 8 o'clock at night, I know I would! And to hell with their own fans, having to travel back from Sunderland at 10 o'clock on a Saturday night

A fucking piss take having fans travel at that time. Rules out trains for a method of travel unless you want to overnight. And who wants to stay in Sunderland? A dump

nottsblue wrote:

john@staustell wrote:It IS ridiculous. You'd have thought they'd be more tired by 8 o'clock at night, I know I would! And to hell with their own fans, having to travel back from Sunderland at 10 o'clock on a Saturday night

A fucking piss take having fans travel at that time. Rules out trains for a method of travel unless you want to overnight. And who wants to stay in Sunderland? A dump

Alice perhaps ?

It's up to the fans not to be fucked about by saying fuck you and not turning up, if fans don't put pressure on TV companies and the PL then they can't complain because well....they aren't complaining.

I go into a shop and a know a tin of coke is £2 and I have to pay by card, I choose not to go in and find another shop that sells coke for a quid and I can pay cash.

People will still go and even if not one fan goes they dont care cos its £ but i agree with the principle and organised no shows. Work's in Germany etc

Some forget very quickly. City have had these late night tricks pulled loads of times .most recently a sunday semi final, late afternoon at wembley when two london teams played in the other semi on a saturday. Tough luck for the Arse , it still gives them extra " minutes" . I hope is rains all day in Sunderland as well.

The away fan is not considered at all. I read on Thursday when the Xmas and NY fixtures were released that this was early after a request from the football supporters associatiion. We're at Newcastle at 2000 boxing day again which has been a regular trip over Xmas these past years. That is shite but we will still sell out. Agree that the broadcasters won't want empty stadiums so it's upto the fans to vote with their feet but it won't happen..