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CL Permutations

PostPosted: Wed May 21, 2025 9:11 am
by BlueinBosnia
Going into the final round of the league, the games that affect the CL are as follows:

Fulham v City
Forest v Chelsea
Rags v Villa
Southampton v Arsenal (marginally)
Newcastle v Everton

Now, as I understand it, if any of those games (edit: except Arsenal) ends in a draw, we're guaranteed CL football, and the worst we can finish is 6th (as Chelsea and Forest can't both overtake us).

Looking ahead to the CL next season itself, we'd be in Pot 1, due to coefficients (as league winners are no longer seeded, only CL winners). However, the pots themselves are less important now, because you play 2 games against clubs from each pot (including your own). Having said that, were the Rags to win the UEFA Cup, they'd quite possibly push Arsenal into Pot 2.

Of the 9 (yes, nine) teams still in contention for (or guaranteed) CL football next year, the likely pots for the CL (if they qualify) are as follows:

1 City: Pot 1
2 Liverpool: Pot 1
3 Chelsea: Pot 1
4 Rags: Pot 1/2
5 Arsenal: Pot 1/2
6 Spurs: Pot 2
7 Villa: Pot 2/3
8 Newcastle: Pot 4 (as club coefficient < country coefficient)
9 Forest: Pot 4

Re: CL Permutations

PostPosted: Wed May 21, 2025 9:16 am
by nottsblue
Don’t see how Arsenal drawing guarantees us CL spots. They are already guaranteed CL spot

Re: CL Permutations

PostPosted: Wed May 21, 2025 9:28 am
by BlueinBosnia
nottsblue wrote:Don’t see how Arsenal drawing guarantees us CL spots. They are already guaranteed CL spot

Sorry, you're right. I forgot about that game in the initial working-out.

Re: CL Permutations

PostPosted: Wed May 21, 2025 10:13 am
by Mase
Cheers for this. I was wondering last night what would happen in different scenarios but was too tired to work it out

Re: CL Permutations

PostPosted: Wed May 21, 2025 10:14 am
by Mase
Just out of interest is there a special pot for whichever team sings the Guardiola song the most? We could definitely be in that

Re: CL Permutations

PostPosted: Wed May 21, 2025 10:17 am
by Scatman
Just out of interest is there going to be a thread some time soon that doesn't turn into a debate about Pep and how stupid some people think other people are?

Re: CL Permutations

PostPosted: Wed May 21, 2025 10:33 am
by Mase
Scatman wrote:Just out of interest is there going to be a thread some time soon that doesn't turn into a debate about Pep and how stupid some people think other people are?


Now I know it upsets you I'm going to do it on every single thread.

Re: CL Permutations

PostPosted: Wed May 21, 2025 10:52 am
by CTID Hants
Mase wrote:
Scatman wrote:Just out of interest is there going to be a thread some time soon that doesn't turn into a debate about Pep and how stupid some people think other people are?


Now I know it upsets you I'm going to do it on every single thread.


Tbf you do anyway :lol:

Re: CL Permutations

PostPosted: Wed May 21, 2025 11:04 am
by Mase
CTID Hants wrote:
Mase wrote:
Scatman wrote:Just out of interest is there going to be a thread some time soon that doesn't turn into a debate about Pep and how stupid some people think other people are?


Now I know it upsets you I'm going to do it on every single thread.


Tbf you do anyway :lol:


I'm a horrible twat :lol:

Re: CL Permutations

PostPosted: Wed May 21, 2025 5:59 pm
by Harry Dowd scored
Don’t forget get guys winner of tonight’s Rags v Trophy dodgers in Europa final qualify for CL. Good innit .

Re: CL Permutations

PostPosted: Wed May 21, 2025 6:03 pm
by Scatman
Harry Dowd scored wrote:Don’t forget get guys winner of tonight’s Rags v Trophy dodgers in Europa final qualify for CL. Good innit .


They'll be champions of something, unlike most of the teams in the champions league next year.

Re: CL Permutations

PostPosted: Wed May 21, 2025 6:03 pm
by nottsblue
Harry Dowd scored wrote:Don’t forget get guys winner of tonight’s Rags v Trophy dodgers in Europa final qualify for CL. Good innit .

Anyone gonna watch?

Hoping for a mass brawl with no winner declared. Failing that long shot, then come on Spurs

Re: CL Permutations

PostPosted: Wed May 21, 2025 6:05 pm
by nottsblue
Scatman wrote:
Harry Dowd scored wrote:Don’t forget get guys winner of tonight’s Rags v Trophy dodgers in Europa final qualify for CL. Good innit .


They'll be champions of something, unlike most of the teams in the champions league next year.

Well, we are Champions of the most passes trophy

Re: CL Permutations

PostPosted: Wed May 21, 2025 6:16 pm
by city72
nottsblue wrote:
Scatman wrote:
Harry Dowd scored wrote:Don’t forget get guys winner of tonight’s Rags v Trophy dodgers in Europa final qualify for CL. Good innit .


They'll be champions of something, unlike most of the teams in the champions league next year.

Well, we are Champions of the most passes trophy

Backwards

Re: CL Permutations

PostPosted: Wed May 21, 2025 6:20 pm
by nottsblue
city72 wrote:
nottsblue wrote:
Scatman wrote:
Harry Dowd scored wrote:Don’t forget get guys winner of tonight’s Rags v Trophy dodgers in Europa final qualify for CL. Good innit .


They'll be champions of something, unlike most of the teams in the champions league next year.

Well, we are Champions of the most passes trophy

Backwards

There are 2 trophies up for grabs? Goody gumdrops :lol: :lol:

Re: CL Permutations

PostPosted: Wed May 21, 2025 7:08 pm
by zuricity
Mase wrote:
CTID Hants wrote:
Mase wrote:
Scatman wrote:Just out of interest is there going to be a thread some time soon that doesn't turn into a debate about Pep and how stupid some people think other people are?


Now I know it upsets you I'm going to do it on every single thread.


Tbf you do anyway :lol:


I'm a horrible twat :lol:


I will remind you of that on every thread that you remind Scatman

Re: CL Permutations

PostPosted: Wed May 21, 2025 7:15 pm
by CTID Hants
zuricity wrote:
Mase wrote:
CTID Hants wrote:
Mase wrote:
Scatman wrote:Just out of interest is there going to be a thread some time soon that doesn't turn into a debate about Pep and how stupid some people think other people are?


Now I know it upsets you I'm going to do it on every single thread.


Tbf you do anyway :lol:


I'm a horrible twat :lol:


I will remind you of that on every thread that you remind Scatman


:lol:

Re: CL Permutations

PostPosted: Wed May 21, 2025 7:32 pm
by Mase
zuricity wrote:
Mase wrote:
CTID Hants wrote:
Mase wrote:
Scatman wrote:Just out of interest is there going to be a thread some time soon that doesn't turn into a debate about Pep and how stupid some people think other people are?


Now I know it upsets you I'm going to do it on every single thread.


Tbf you do anyway :lol:


I'm a horrible twat :lol:


I will remind you of that on every thread that you remind Scatman


Will remind you that you need to remind me after I've reminded Scatman

Re: CL Permutations

PostPosted: Wed May 21, 2025 8:59 pm
by nottsblue
Fuck off rags. You're not invited

Re: CL Permutations

PostPosted: Wed May 21, 2025 9:01 pm
by Nick
Wayyyyy