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Everton deducted 10 points

PostPosted: Fri Nov 17, 2023 12:30 pm
by CTID Hants
For breaching FFP, that's a lot lighter deduction than expected.

Luton out of botttom 3 as a result

Re: Everton deducted 10 points

PostPosted: Fri Nov 17, 2023 12:33 pm
by nottsblue
Rather surprised at 10 points

But they have blatantly lost far more than the £105m permitted over 3 years

Re: Everton deducted 10 points

PostPosted: Fri Nov 17, 2023 12:35 pm
by Blue Jam
How much credence do we lend to the impied notion that this is is a harbinger for harsher penalties for us?

Re: Everton deducted 10 points

PostPosted: Fri Nov 17, 2023 12:36 pm
by nottsblue
Has Gobber jumped in the Mersey yet

Re: Everton deducted 10 points

PostPosted: Fri Nov 17, 2023 12:51 pm
by PeterParker
I was listening to Talksport when it came and of course the scouse that called were: "Yeah, but what about Man City".

So I hope they relegate the cunts.

Re: Everton deducted 10 points

PostPosted: Fri Nov 17, 2023 12:58 pm
by nottsblue
https://www.independent.co.uk/sport/foo ... 11990.html

Losses totalling over £430M over the last 5 years.

Re: Everton deducted 10 points

PostPosted: Fri Nov 17, 2023 1:00 pm
by carl_feedthegoat
Blue Jam wrote:How much credence do we lend to the impied notion that this is is a harbinger for harsher penalties for us?


I thought the same thing,

Re: Everton deducted 10 points

PostPosted: Fri Nov 17, 2023 1:03 pm
by salford city
I read that Leeds Burnley and someone else were also looking to privately sue over this due to their own relegations - may be hard to prove, but they must have a case - as long as their own books are in order. Could be fun but I'd doubt they would be guven any encouragement

Re: Everton deducted 10 points

PostPosted: Fri Nov 17, 2023 1:15 pm
by john@staustell
Personally I just wish they'd fuck off and leave everybody alone.

Re: Everton deducted 10 points

PostPosted: Fri Nov 17, 2023 1:34 pm
by salford city
john@staustell wrote:Personally I just wish they'd fuck off and leave everybody alone.


Assuming you mean the PL? Not going to happen when they are being held to ransom by the yank-led cartel and need to protect the 'brand'.I see Carragher has stuck his neck out. Let's see if their cross-city neighbours come out in sympathy - i fucking doubt it. Shame it is this season as they won't struggle to get back above the bottom three

Re: Everton deducted 10 points

PostPosted: Fri Nov 17, 2023 1:40 pm
by stupot
salford city wrote:
john@staustell wrote:Personally I just wish they'd fuck off and leave everybody alone.


Assuming you mean the PL? Not going to happen when they are being held to ransom by the yank-led cartel and need to protect the 'brand'.I see Carragher has stuck his neck out. Let's see if their cross-city neighbours come out in sympathy - i fucking doubt it. Shame it is this season as they won't struggle to get back above the bottom three

I hope they're above it next game personally as it means they'll have beaten the rags.

Re: Everton deducted 10 points

PostPosted: Fri Nov 17, 2023 2:02 pm
by sheblue
Personally I think this is wrong. I am not a fan of FFP and I do have sympathy for them.
Its over 50 years or more since professional football was a sport, calling it sport is nonsense in this day and age. It is a business and big business as well. Anyone should be allowed to invest in their business any way they see fit. Whether they sink or swim is up to them.

Re: Everton deducted 10 points

PostPosted: Fri Nov 17, 2023 2:22 pm
by Mase
sheblue wrote:Personally I think this is wrong. I am not a fan of FFP and I do have sympathy for them.
Its over 50 years or more since professional football was a sport, calling it sport is nonsense in this day and age. It is a business and big business as well. Anyone should be allowed to invest in their business any way they see fit. Whether they sink or swim is up to them.


Nope. If clubs were fan owned then yeah, I get it. But why should a team like Bury not exist for a few years because of the owner? It’s not the fans fault.

Look at Sheff Wed now. That owner has said he’s not putting anymore money into the club. What if he doesn’t invest a penny and they go under. It’s not him that suffers, it’s the fans.

Re: Everton deducted 10 points

PostPosted: Fri Nov 17, 2023 2:29 pm
by blues2win
It’s all happened very quickly. Didn’t they even try and defend themselves?

Re: Everton deducted 10 points

PostPosted: Fri Nov 17, 2023 2:45 pm
by Mase
“But but but what about City?!”

:lol:

Re: Everton deducted 10 points

PostPosted: Fri Nov 17, 2023 2:59 pm
by Indianablue
carl_feedthegoat wrote:
Blue Jam wrote:How much credence do we lend to the impied notion that this is is a harbinger for harsher penalties for us?


I thought the same thing,

Its all SM has said since it was announced about Everton breaking the rules. The logic to most simpletons is that we should get a massive deduction because we have 115 breaches. Most assume the breaches are proven, most want them to be proven, most just want to see us found guilty, most think we bought our trophies, .most think it is unfair for us to have money behind us. Most conveniently ignore Utd's debt, Luverpool spending, dodgy transfer valuations and cyber theft from City and most fans of our rivals are behaving like cunts. This hate has been building for a decade. Every social media teaser headline concerning City is a negative , every teaser for Utd, Liverpool, Arsenal are positive. Its as if we were Israel

Re: Everton deducted 10 points

PostPosted: Fri Nov 17, 2023 3:04 pm
by Harry Dowd scored
Indianablue wrote:
carl_feedthegoat wrote:
Blue Jam wrote:How much credence do we lend to the impied notion that this is is a harbinger for harsher penalties for us?


I thought the same thing,

Its all SM has said since it was announced about Everton breaking the rules. The logic to most simpletons is that we should get a massive deduction because we have 115 breaches. Most assume the breaches are proven, most want them to be proven, most just want to see us found guilty, most think we bought our trophies, .most think it is unfair for us to have money behind us. Most conveniently ignore Utd's debt, Luverpool spending, dodgy transfer valuations and cyber theft from City and most fans of our rivals are behaving like cunts. This hate has been building for a decade. Every social media teaser headline concerning City is a negative , every teaser for Utd, Liverpool, Arsenal are positive. Its as if we were Israel

100% this

Re: Everton deducted 10 points

PostPosted: Fri Nov 17, 2023 3:23 pm
by blues2win
I see Everton are appealing more for the penalty than the principle it seems. Hoping for a fine rather than a points deduction. They were charged in March. We were charged in June but the issues are much more complicated so you can’t just add on a few more months to come up with a decision by the Commission over the City case.

I notice a so called legal expert on Sky smugly assumed City will be found guilty and get a harsher penalty. The Sky presenter had to interject that we denied any wrong doing.

Re: Everton deducted 10 points

PostPosted: Fri Nov 17, 2023 3:29 pm
by stupot
blues2win wrote:I see Everton are appealing more for the penalty than the principle it seems. Hoping for a fine rather than a points deduction. They were charged in March. We were charged in June but the issues are much more complicated so you can’t just add on a few more months to come up with a decision by the Commission over the City case.

I notice a so called legal expert on Sky smugly assumed City will be found guilty and get a harsher penalty. The Sky presenter had to interject that we denied any wrong doing.

We were charged in Feb this year and it was the catalyst for our run that ended with the treble.

Re: Everton deducted 10 points

PostPosted: Fri Nov 17, 2023 3:44 pm
by Harry Dowd scored
nottsblue wrote:Has Gobber jumped in the Mersey yet

He was stopped by the Environmental Agencies because the Misery is already polluted enough :lol: