Loan Watch Part 2

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Re: Loan Watch Part 2

Postby nottsblue » Sat Dec 09, 2023 3:44 pm

McAtee with his first PL goal for Sheffield. Decent finish according to the soccer Saturday reporter
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Re: Loan Watch Part 2

Postby CTID Hants » Sat Dec 09, 2023 4:09 pm

nottsblue wrote:McAtee with his first PL goal for Sheffield. Decent finish according to the soccer Saturday reporter


Yep, had talksport on in car, reckon it was absolute belter and compared him and the goal to Foden & Palmer and how City cultivate the best left footers.
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Re: Loan Watch Part 2

Postby Mase » Sat Jan 06, 2024 2:45 pm

City have recalled Kian Breckin from his season long loan at Wycombe. Apparently he’s been treated terribly there.
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Re: Loan Watch Part 2

Postby Harry Dowd scored » Sat Jan 06, 2024 4:27 pm

Off the beeb feed :

Nathan Jones
Former Southampton manager speaking on BBC Radio 5 Live
James McAtee is like a young Bernardo Silva the way he moves, his balance and the simplicity in his game, but when he needs to add quality he can - I have really enjoyed watching him.
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Re: Loan Watch Part 2

Postby salford city » Sat Jan 06, 2024 4:45 pm

Harry Dowd scored wrote:Off the beeb feed :

Nathan Jones
Former Southampton manager speaking on BBC Radio 5 Live
James McAtee is like a young Bernardo Silva the way he moves, his balance and the simplicity in his game, but when he needs to add quality he can - I have really enjoyed watching him.


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Re: Loan Watch Part 2

Postby salford city » Sat Jan 06, 2024 4:50 pm

salford city wrote:
Harry Dowd scored wrote:Off the beeb feed :

Nathan Jones
Former Southampton manager speaking on BBC Radio 5 Live
James McAtee is like a young Bernardo Silva the way he moves, his balance and the simplicity in his game, but when he needs to add quality he can - I have really enjoyed watching him.


Just put the blades 3 up


And again to make it 4
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Re: Loan Watch Part 2

Postby Mase » Sat Jan 06, 2024 5:11 pm

Would have been playing tomorrow if he wasn’t poorly advised.
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Re: Loan Watch Part 2

Postby salford city » Sat Jan 06, 2024 5:19 pm

Mase wrote:Would have been playing tomorrow if he wasn’t poorly advised.


Whose to say he's poorly advised? Stay with us and (hardly) get a game or go back to a lower placed prem team and get more minutes. Not saying he's made the right choice but the boy is a talent, more so in my opinion that palmer . Big season for him
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Re: Loan Watch Part 2

Postby Original Dub » Sat Jan 06, 2024 5:36 pm

McAtee with two goals and an assist.
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Re: Loan Watch Part 2

Postby nottsblue » Sat Jan 06, 2024 5:39 pm

salford city wrote:
Mase wrote:Would have been playing tomorrow if he wasn’t poorly advised.


Whose to say he's poorly advised? Stay with us and (hardly) get a game or go back to a lower placed prem team and get more minutes. Not saying he's made the right choice but the boy is a talent, more so in my opinion that palmer . Big season for him

I'll bet Oscar Bobb isn't far behind him in minutes this season
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Re: Loan Watch Part 2

Postby salford city » Sat Jan 06, 2024 5:43 pm

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salford city wrote:
Mase wrote:Would have been playing tomorrow if he wasn’t poorly advised.


Whose to say he's poorly advised? Stay with us and (hardly) get a game or go back to a lower placed prem team and get more minutes. Not saying he's made the right choice but the boy is a talent, more so in my opinion that palmer . Big season for him

I'll bet Oscar Bobb isn't far behind him in minutes this season


Agreed but McAtee would not be played out on the left and that's his problem. He'd be behind Foden and Kova and Nunes in the middle
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Re: Loan Watch Part 2

Postby Mase » Sat Jan 06, 2024 6:33 pm

salford city wrote:
nottsblue wrote:
salford city wrote:
Mase wrote:Would have been playing tomorrow if he wasn’t poorly advised.


Whose to say he's poorly advised? Stay with us and (hardly) get a game or go back to a lower placed prem team and get more minutes. Not saying he's made the right choice but the boy is a talent, more so in my opinion that palmer . Big season for him

I'll bet Oscar Bobb isn't far behind him in minutes this season


Agreed but McAtee would not be played out on the left and that's his problem. He'd be behind Foden and Kova and Nunes in the middle


Sheff Utd have been playing him off the right, so no reason he couldn’t have done that for us instead of us having to move Bern out there from the middle.

He's been poorly advised because you only have to look at Foden’s pathway. He’s not played a whole lot there and who is he learning from? McBurnie?! Zero development there
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Re: Loan Watch Part 2

Postby Mase » Mon Jan 08, 2024 8:09 am

Just reading on the Athletic that Wolves have pulled off some deal, with selling Nunes for £53m and bringing in Doyle for what will be £4m at the end of the season.

I didn’t know we agreed a purchase fee? Anyone know if this is true? Why so low?! Doyle could have a class season for Wolves and be worth £10-15m but we’ve already agreed £4m? Surely can’t be true as our top guys are usually pretty astute - £4m when we sold players like Charles for £10m doesn’t sound right!
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Re: Loan Watch Part 2

Postby salford city » Mon Jan 08, 2024 10:00 am

Mase wrote:Just reading on the Athletic that Wolves have pulled off some deal, with selling Nunes for £53m and bringing in Doyle for what will be £4m at the end of the season.

I didn’t know we agreed a purchase fee? Anyone know if this is true? Why so low?! Doyle could have a class season for Wolves and be worth £10-15m but we’ve already agreed £4m? Surely can’t be true as our top guys are usually pretty astute - £4m when we sold players like Charles for £10m doesn’t sound right!


I'd read at the time that it was a whopping £5 million, which is still way under market value imo. I'd have liked for him to stay but the powers-that-be have clearly decided that he was surplus and wanted Nunes which is why we have gone low with Doyle's prospective fee. Question is has this made wolves weaker or stronger? Personally, I thought KDB returning brought out better in Nunes yesterday so we'll see how that dynamic progresses
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Re: Loan Watch Part 2

Postby Mase » Mon Jan 08, 2024 10:11 am

salford city wrote:
Mase wrote:Just reading on the Athletic that Wolves have pulled off some deal, with selling Nunes for £53m and bringing in Doyle for what will be £4m at the end of the season.

I didn’t know we agreed a purchase fee? Anyone know if this is true? Why so low?! Doyle could have a class season for Wolves and be worth £10-15m but we’ve already agreed £4m? Surely can’t be true as our top guys are usually pretty astute - £4m when we sold players like Charles for £10m doesn’t sound right!


I'd read at the time that it was a whopping £5 million, which is still way under market value imo. I'd have liked for him to stay but the powers-that-be have clearly decided that he was surplus and wanted Nunes which is why we have gone low with Doyle's prospective fee. Question is has this made wolves weaker or stronger? Personally, I thought KDB returning brought out better in Nunes yesterday so we'll see how that dynamic progresses


From what it said in the Athletic, and probably needs to be taken with a pinch of salt, Nunes rarely had a good game for Wolves so they’re over the moon with the deal.

Will be interesting to see how Doyle turns out. Would have liked him to be given a chance here but we bought the likes of Phillips instead, unfortunately. Hopefully he has a decent career.
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Re: Loan Watch Part 2

Postby stupot » Mon Jan 08, 2024 10:31 am

Nunes was the Supporters Player of the Season for Wolves last season so he can't have been too bad for them.
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Re: Loan Watch Part 2

Postby Mase » Mon Jan 08, 2024 11:04 am

stupot wrote:Nunes was the Supporters Player of the Season for Wolves last season so he can't have been too bad for them.


Neves got supports POTY last season, not Nunes. Nunes got voted goal of the season.

https://www.wolves.co.uk/news/club/20230520-neves-and-george-claim-202223-awards-double/

Supporters voted for Neves as their men’s Player of the Season following an impressive season in gold and black as the Portuguese international took on the captain’s responsibility.
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Re: Loan Watch Part 2

Postby stupot » Mon Jan 08, 2024 11:10 am

Mase wrote:
stupot wrote:Nunes was the Supporters Player of the Season for Wolves last season so he can't have been too bad for them.


Neves got supports POTY last season, not Nunes. Nunes got voted goal of the season.

https://www.wolves.co.uk/news/club/20230520-neves-and-george-claim-202223-awards-double/

Supporters voted for Neves as their men’s Player of the Season following an impressive season in gold and black as the Portuguese international took on the captain’s responsibility.

You're right, my mistake.
However i was at Wolves this season and they were vicious towards him which they don't tend to be if they couldn't care less.
Can't see us booing Phillips if he comes back with Newcastle.
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Re: Loan Watch Part 2

Postby Mase » Mon Jan 08, 2024 11:25 am

stupot wrote:
Mase wrote:
stupot wrote:Nunes was the Supporters Player of the Season for Wolves last season so he can't have been too bad for them.


Neves got supports POTY last season, not Nunes. Nunes got voted goal of the season.

https://www.wolves.co.uk/news/club/20230520-neves-and-george-claim-202223-awards-double/

Supporters voted for Neves as their men’s Player of the Season following an impressive season in gold and black as the Portuguese international took on the captain’s responsibility.

You're right, my mistake.
However i was at Wolves this season and they were vicious towards him which they don't tend to be if they couldn't care less.
Can't see us booing Phillips if he comes back with Newcastle.


You forgotten he refused to train and went on strike with them? Not going to roll out the red carpet are they
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Re: Loan Watch Part 2

Postby nottsblue » Mon Jan 08, 2024 12:43 pm

salford city wrote:
Mase wrote:Just reading on the Athletic that Wolves have pulled off some deal, with selling Nunes for £53m and bringing in Doyle for what will be £4m at the end of the season.

I didn’t know we agreed a purchase fee? Anyone know if this is true? Why so low?! Doyle could have a class season for Wolves and be worth £10-15m but we’ve already agreed £4m? Surely can’t be true as our top guys are usually pretty astute - £4m when we sold players like Charles for £10m doesn’t sound right!


I'd read at the time that it was a whopping £5 million, which is still way under market value imo. I'd have liked for him to stay but the powers-that-be have clearly decided that he was surplus and wanted Nunes which is why we have gone low with Doyle's prospective fee. Question is has this made wolves weaker or stronger? Personally, I thought KDB returning brought out better in Nunes yesterday so we'll see how that dynamic progresses

Maybe his contract ends this summer? And we agreed a loan with a small fee on this basis, otherwise he could go elsewhere for free?

Because on the face of it £4-5M is way too low under normal circumstances
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