blowing the lid of PGMOL

[stevefromdonny]

Make of this what you will, but I've just been privy to some startling information that would blow the lid off PGMOL and the power brokers at the Premier League, if it became public. It involves a recording of a conversation between the match day referee and VAR official at a recent away match, a recording that is now in the hands of City.

It's my firm belief that City have compiled a dossier so incendiary, that the Premier League will have no choice but to totally exonerate the Club of any wrongdoing. If they don't, this is going nuclear. Either way, we hold all the cards and this explains why we're so bullish about the eventual outcome. The Premier League are on the back foot, and in my opinion, are currently lobbying the membership as to how best to quietly end the process. I have also been advised that at least one of the "Nasty 9" has had board level discussions with City, distancing themselves from the others in the cabal.

Pep's press conference tells us all we need to know. Watch it again, look at the anger and barely controllable rage in the mans eyes. His attitude wasn't based upon him being reassured about some poxy finances & bullshit charges, it was because he KNOWS exactly what is coming.


This was on bluemoon yesterday

Sit back and enjoy the ride Blues

[Mase]

Thanks for this, I tried to find the thread on here it was mentioned in a couple of days ago and couldn’t find it.

I, like all blues, hope this is true. And the sacking of Lee Mason for a mistake is a bit of a weird one.

Like someone said on BM, if you’d told us 10-15 years ago that Liverpool would get done for hacking our scouting database people would have thought you mad. If you’d mentioned a VAR type league back then people would have laughed. So it’s not too far fetched.

They’re saying the words used were, “Just give the goal Stuart” to Attwell when we played the Rags.

I just can’t see it being true though.

[sheblue]

The makings of an interesting thread this.

[Dimples]

Anybody know anything about the original poster and his track record?
To get access to or be told about information that confidential implies you are operating at Boardroom level.
If you are and if you are told about confidential information, you don't leak it, especially on a fans forum unless asked to do so - very unlikely.

I doubt there is a shred of truth in that post but I am ever optimistic and I hope it is true.

But, but but.....for certain there are some unusual things happening. For example:

1. It has gone exceptionally quiet re the charges this week. I mean OTT quiet.
2. The charges come a week before a Qatari bid for MU
3. Qatar and UAE have a troubled history that is ongoing. Google QatarGate.
In December Qatar were accused of bribing Euro Parliment members to gain influence. Qatar denied this and accused UAE of orchestrating a smear campaign. Getting serious now and Euro Parliment members are being investigated. Qatar again, they are like Liverpool, trouble follows them around.
4. Like Mase said the 'resignation' of Lee Mason for a mistake is not credible given the vast number of 'errors' the other Var analysts make.
5. But without doubt the most amazing thing for me about this season is the 'openess and transparancy' of the cheating (to aid MU and Liverpool).
Cheating in plain sight using Refs decisions, VAR and increasingly the use (and non-use) of cards to influence games. It is blatant.
Cheered on by the media: Ten Bob, Casemiro, Rashford all lauded, totally ignoring the cheating.
It is reflected in the Leister fans reaction to their last game. Most of them believe they were deliberatly cheated.
That cheating and agendas exist is no longer a debate for football fans. (Sad but true and ultimately it will kill the game).

1,2 and 3 I accept are BS conspiracy theory.
But it is undeniable that football is now controlled by wealthy powerful global interests: hedge funds, States, big business and billionaires.
These entities did not get to the top by being nice people and playing fair. The opposite is true.
IMO the Qatar influence has a lot to do with what we are seeing at the moment. If they are bribing Euro Parliment members (they are)
paying off a few football officials is easy pickings.

[stevefromdonny]

this is someone who knows how it works because as it says below he works on sports events also this was by a poster on bluemoon


The TV commentators/director/truck at the game definitely have an audio feed from VAR for every PL game, that they can/do listen to. It's why they know before we do what the decision is going to be. It's usually on pot 4 on the comms box. -)

They don't have a feed from the refs in the PL, that goes straight to VAR alone, although I know for a fact that comms can/do listen to Refs or TMO in Rugby (both codes).

There are 2 VAR/Hawkeye trucks which are onsite at each PL game which receive a feed from the Hawkeye cameras which are installed/calibrated in every PL ground, hence why no VAR anywhere else.

I think, but not certain, that the VT operators for VAR are at Stockley Park and will use the feed from the Hawkeye cameras to use. I'd be surprised if it was the PGMOL members doing the operating. They can talk to them to agree the freeze frame etc but I'd say it's the VT op who finds the freeze frame and then VAR put the lines on, but again I'm not sure but can find out.

I believe VAR can also access images from the other match cameras covering the game but I'm fairly sure those VT replays/feeds etc will be from the VT Ops in the main TV Scanner which is at the game transmitting the show, which is also in the car park.



But the Hawkeye trucks do not get a feed of any commentary at all. Remember there are more commentators there than Sky/BT, so the comms feeds go to their own trucks or remote studios. The "World Feed" which everyone gets supplied from the TV Scanner has only images and crowd/pitch fx.

They put their own comms/interviews etc on top of that. This is why you get different audio balance on different channels. UK productions mainly focus on fx from the game/pitch/sound of the ball. The Sound Supervisor who mixes the show, literally follows the ball around and fades up the mics nearby. Hence why the crowd fx sometimes get lost, esp if it's at the other end of the pitch.

Other broadcasters, esp the US, just turn up the fx and use a compressor to turn that level down when the commentators speak. When they go quiet the fx noise goes back up. Sometimes quickly sometimes slowly, depending on the setting they've chosen. Quite annoying when you spot it.

VAR may get sound fx but I doubt it as it's pretty useless for slow-mos. But they obviously are in communication with the ref(s).



How do I know this? I work in Sound for Outside Broadcast companies at sports events...

[johnny crossan]

from a long time poster on there - 2008 vintage, not very prolific either

Make of this what you will, but I've just been privy to some startling information that would blow the lid off PGMOL and the power brokers at the Premier League, if it became public. It involves a recording of a conversation between the match day referee and VAR official at a recent away match, a recording that is now in the hands of City.

It's my firm belief that City have compiled a dossier so incendiary, that the Premier League will have no choice but to totally exonerate the Club of any wrongdoing. If they don't, this is going nuclear. Either way, we hold all the cards and this explains why we're so bullish about the eventual outcome. The Premier League are on the back foot, and in my opinion, are currently lobbying the membership as to how best to quietly end the process. I have also been advised that at least one of the "Nasty 9" has had board level discussions with City, distancing themselves from the others in the cabal.

Pep's press conference tells us all we need to know. Watch it again, look at the anger and barely controllable rage in the mans eyes. His attitude wasn't based upon him being reassured about some poxy finances & bullshit charges, it was because he KNOWS exactly what is coming.


This was on bluemoon yesterday

Sit back and enjoy the ride Blues

[Mase]

I wonder if the club that is distancing themselves from the other 8 is Leicester. Rogers has mentioned this week that FFP is holding them back. Have their eyes been opened?

[Bluemoon4610]

from a long time poster on there - 2008 vintage, not very prolific either

Make of this what you will, but I've just been privy to some startling information that would blow the lid off PGMOL and the power brokers at the Premier League, if it became public. It involves a recording of a conversation between the match day referee and VAR official at a recent away match, a recording that is now in the hands of City.

It's my firm belief that City have compiled a dossier so incendiary, that the Premier League will have no choice but to totally exonerate the Club of any wrongdoing. If they don't, this is going nuclear. Either way, we hold all the cards and this explains why we're so bullish about the eventual outcome. The Premier League are on the back foot, and in my opinion, are currently lobbying the membership as to how best to quietly end the process. I have also been advised that at least one of the "Nasty 9" has had board level discussions with City, distancing themselves from the others in the cabal.

Pep's press conference tells us all we need to know. Watch it again, look at the anger and barely controllable rage in the mans eyes. His attitude wasn't based upon him being reassured about some poxy finances & bullshit charges, it was because he KNOWS exactly what is coming.


This was on bluemoon yesterday

Sit back and enjoy the ride Blues

PLEASE BE TRUE!
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[nottsblue]

Can't see this being the case to be honest.
Corrupt people/organisations are generally better at hiding it.

[Mase]

One thing I’d love to blow is Jack FYI

[Dimples]

I wonder if the club that is distancing themselves from the other 8 is Leicester. Rogers has mentioned this week that FFP is holding them back. Have their eyes been opened?

Why is it important if one of the hateful 9 distances itself from the other 8?
It is the PL who brought these 100 odd charges against City and some of the hateful 8 are not in the PL now or have new owners.

[Mase]

I wonder if the club that is distancing themselves from the other 8 is Leicester. Rogers has mentioned this week that FFP is holding them back. Have their eyes been opened?

Why is it important if one of the hateful 9 distances itself from the other 8?
It is the PL who brought these 100 odd charges against City and some of the hateful 8 are not in the PL now or have new owners.

The Prem brought the charges, clearly pushed by the red shite. We make the Premier League billions - someone pointed out that the Aguero goal alone made the Prem £2b, not sure if true.

It’s clearly an agenda pushed by teams that play in red.

[ruralblue]

this is someone who knows how it works because as it says below he works on sports events also this was by a poster on bluemoon


The TV commentators/director/truck at the game definitely have an audio feed from VAR for every PL game, that they can/do listen to. It's why they know before we do what the decision is going to be. It's usually on pot 4 on the comms box. -)

They don't have a feed from the refs in the PL, that goes straight to VAR alone, although I know for a fact that comms can/do listen to Refs or TMO in Rugby (both codes).

There are 2 VAR/Hawkeye trucks which are onsite at each PL game which receive a feed from the Hawkeye cameras which are installed/calibrated in every PL ground, hence why no VAR anywhere else.

I think, but not certain, that the VT operators for VAR are at Stockley Park and will use the feed from the Hawkeye cameras to use. I'd be surprised if it was the PGMOL members doing the operating. They can talk to them to agree the freeze frame etc but I'd say it's the VT op who finds the freeze frame and then VAR put the lines on, but again I'm not sure but can find out.

I believe VAR can also access images from the other match cameras covering the game but I'm fairly sure those VT replays/feeds etc will be from the VT Ops in the main TV Scanner which is at the game transmitting the show, which is also in the car park.



But the Hawkeye trucks do not get a feed of any commentary at all. Remember there are more commentators there than Sky/BT, so the comms feeds go to their own trucks or remote studios. The "World Feed" which everyone gets supplied from the TV Scanner has only images and crowd/pitch fx.

They put their own comms/interviews etc on top of that. This is why you get different audio balance on different channels. UK productions mainly focus on fx from the game/pitch/sound of the ball. The Sound Supervisor who mixes the show, literally follows the ball around and fades up the mics nearby. Hence why the crowd fx sometimes get lost, esp if it's at the other end of the pitch.

Other broadcasters, esp the US, just turn up the fx and use a compressor to turn that level down when the commentators speak. When they go quiet the fx noise goes back up. Sometimes quickly sometimes slowly, depending on the setting they've chosen. Quite annoying when you spot it.

VAR may get sound fx but I doubt it as it's pretty useless for slow-mos. But they obviously are in communication with the ref(s).



How do I know this? I work in Sound for Outside Broadcast companies at sports events...

I was just going to guess that you perhaps worked with 'sound' Steve, then you go and spoil it by telling us at the end. Makes a lot of sense when explained like that.

[Nickyboy]

I wonder if the club that is distancing themselves from the other 8 is Leicester. Rogers has mentioned this week that FFP is holding them back. Have their eyes been opened?

Thought it was already confirmed it is Burnley