MCFC v UEFA | Verdict 13 Jul 20

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What will be the outcome?

City exonerated of all charges.
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City exonerated of main charge but done for not cooperating.
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UEFA charges upheld, ban stands.
16
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Other.
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9%
 
Total votes : 57

Re: MCFC v UEFA | CAS Appeal 8-10 Jun 20

Postby BlueinBosnia » Tue Jun 09, 2020 11:32 am

patrickblue wrote:Although we haven't said the emails are not genuine, I cannot believe that anyone would send an email basically saying "lets cheat".
TBH if someone in the loop actually has done that, then the club deserves what it gets.

Remember, UEFA have acted as judge and jury on the basis of documentation that was:
- Illegally obtained in an incomplete form
- Selectively shared with Der Spiegel
- Selectively shared by Der Spiegel
That's a hell of a lot of curation that's gone on (aside from the original criminal offence on which UEFA's case is built), and it wouldn't stand up in a court of law if this were a criminal case. It's the equivalent someone breaking into a stately home, photographing paintings on the walls in two rooms, sharing some of the pictures with a friend, then that friend sharing pictures with cherubs in with the police, and the owner of the house being done for possession of child pornography.
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Re: MCFC v UEFA | CAS Appeal 8-10 Jun 20

Postby patrickblue » Tue Jun 09, 2020 11:57 am

dick dastardley wrote:If we lose, then any dirty laundry should be published in the media regarding the uefa cartel.
And this is what I hope uefa are thinking therefore a reduced ban/fine.
The perfect scenario is we're exonerated of all charges, on the previso no beans are spilled regarding the corrupt bastards. Both parties will probably be happy with this.


By all accounts, the club has already been offered a deal, and turned it down.
The club maintains that they're innocent, and refuse to take a rap on the knuckles, as that would admit guilt.
It's all or nothing.
And although I can see your perfect scenario happening, in my view the perfect scenario would be that we're exonerated of all charges, and UEFA's stitch up attempts are made public.
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Re: MCFC v UEFA | CAS Appeal 8-10 Jun 20

Postby BlueinBosnia » Tue Jun 09, 2020 12:17 pm

patrickblue wrote:And although I can see your perfect scenario happening, in my view the perfect scenario would be that we're exonerated of all charges, and UEFA's stitch up attempts are made public.

I think UEFA have had their PR busy behind the scenes to limit the fallout, and will try to lay the blame on Der Spiegel.
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Re: MCFC v UEFA | CAS Appeal 8-10 Jun 20

Postby City64 » Tue Jun 09, 2020 12:27 pm

BlueinBosnia wrote:
patrickblue wrote:And although I can see your perfect scenario happening, in my view the perfect scenario would be that we're exonerated of all charges, and UEFA's stitch up attempts are made public.

I think UEFA have had their PR busy behind the scenes to limit the fallout, and will try to lay the blame on Der Spiegel.

The real conundrum to this case is that Aleksander Ceferin has gone out of his way on several occasions to distance himself from it , bizarre in every way !
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Re: MCFC v UEFA | CAS Appeal 8-10 Jun 20

Postby carl_feedthegoat » Tue Jun 09, 2020 2:12 pm

patrickblue wrote:
dick dastardley wrote:If we lose, then any dirty laundry should be published in the media regarding the uefa cartel.
And this is what I hope uefa are thinking therefore a reduced ban/fine.
The perfect scenario is we're exonerated of all charges, on the previso no beans are spilled regarding the corrupt bastards. Both parties will probably be happy with this.


By all accounts, the club has already been offered a deal, and turned it down.
The club maintains that they're innocent, and refuse to take a rap on the knuckles, as that would admit guilt.
It's all or nothing.
And although I can see your perfect scenario happening, in my view the perfect scenario would be that we're exonerated of all charges, and UEFA's stitch up attempts are made public.


I agree - 100% they have offered a watered down deal and we have said no.........I think legally we are 100% in the right and probably not so right once we drift from the legal angle.

I think CAS will lean towards the legal angle as trying to appease UEFA will see them ignoring basic law.
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Re: MCFC v UEFA | CAS Appeal 8-10 Jun 20

Postby carl_feedthegoat » Tue Jun 09, 2020 2:14 pm

City64 wrote:
BlueinBosnia wrote:
patrickblue wrote:And although I can see your perfect scenario happening, in my view the perfect scenario would be that we're exonerated of all charges, and UEFA's stitch up attempts are made public.

I think UEFA have had their PR busy behind the scenes to limit the fallout, and will try to lay the blame on Der Spiegel.

The real conundrum to this case is that Aleksander Ceferin has gone out of his way on several occasions to distance himself from it , bizarre in every way !


Pontius Pilate style
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Re: MCFC v UEFA | CAS Appeal 8-10 Jun 20

Postby Hazy2 » Tue Jun 09, 2020 2:28 pm

The result if bad for us will be leaked !
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Re: MCFC v UEFA | CAS Appeal 8-10 Jun 20

Postby sheblue » Tue Jun 09, 2020 2:31 pm

Apparently the verdict wont be known for several months. Why I have no idea.
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Re: MCFC v UEFA | CAS Appeal 8-10 Jun 20

Postby Hazy2 » Tue Jun 09, 2020 3:43 pm

sheblue wrote:Apparently the verdict wont be known for several months. Why I have no idea.


If we are banned it will be out.
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Re: MCFC v UEFA | CAS Appeal 8-10 Jun 20

Postby nottsblue » Tue Jun 09, 2020 4:29 pm

Hazy2 wrote:
sheblue wrote:Apparently the verdict wont be known for several months. Why I have no idea.


If we are banned it will be out.

And reported with absolute glee
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Re: MCFC v UEFA | CAS Appeal 8-10 Jun 20

Postby carl_feedthegoat » Tue Jun 09, 2020 4:55 pm

nottsblue wrote:
Hazy2 wrote:
sheblue wrote:Apparently the verdict wont be known for several months. Why I have no idea.


If we are banned it will be out.

And reported with absolute glee


They can call us what they want but one thing they can never call us is, Murderers.
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Re: MCFC v UEFA | CAS Appeal 8-10 Jun 20

Postby Hazy2 » Tue Jun 09, 2020 7:09 pm

carl_feedthegoat wrote:
nottsblue wrote:
Hazy2 wrote:
sheblue wrote:Apparently the verdict wont be known for several months. Why I have no idea.


If we are banned it will be out.

And reported with absolute glee


They can call us what they want but one thing they can never call us is, Murderers.[/

The most manipulative Fucking race on the planet the whole Knee picture they released in an around the 35th Anniversary of Hysel Typical twats.
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Re: MCFC v UEFA | CAS Appeal 8-10 Jun 20

Postby PrezIke » Tue Jun 09, 2020 8:02 pm

1 year ban I think is most likely. I think upholding 2 is more likely than exonerated.

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Re: MCFC v UEFA | CAS Appeal 8-10 Jun 20

Postby carolina-blue » Tue Jun 09, 2020 8:36 pm

Hazy2 wrote:
carl_feedthegoat wrote:
nottsblue wrote:
Hazy2 wrote:
sheblue wrote:Apparently the verdict wont be known for several months. Why I have no idea.


If we are banned it will be out.

And reported with absolute glee


They can call us what they want but one thing they can never call us is, Murderers.[/

The most manipulative Fucking race on the planet the whole Knee picture they released in an around the 35th Anniversary of Hysel Typical twats.



Just read that the murderers can play all their games at home , as the Mayor has said the fans will behave and not show up ( yeah right) But Everton has to play their game against the Cunts at a neutral venue because of them showing up ,
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Re: MCFC v UEFA | CAS Appeal 8-10 Jun 20

Postby Mase » Tue Jun 09, 2020 9:03 pm

Being banned for a year won’t be too bad, but will help us massively with the league and getting rest between matches. Plus a year away from that poisonous shitty competition would be good for me.
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Re: MCFC v UEFA | CAS Appeal 8-10 Jun 20

Postby Beefymcfc » Tue Jun 09, 2020 10:21 pm

Mase wrote:Being banned for a year won’t be too bad, but will help us massively with the league and getting rest between matches. Plus a year away from that poisonous shitty competition would be good for me.

I’m not sure, mate. If we are found none compliant then it could affect the PL licensing regulations.

This is huge in terms of how we will be perceived and you can bet your bottom dollar that the PL cartel clubs will push for rescinding trophy’s post our first title.
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Re: MCFC v UEFA | CAS Appeal 8-10 Jun 20

Postby Nick » Wed Jun 10, 2020 5:35 am

PrezIke wrote:1 year ban I think is most likely. I think upholding 2 is more likely than exonerated.

Call my cyincal.


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Re: MCFC v UEFA | CAS Appeal 8-10 Jun 20

Postby Nick » Wed Jun 10, 2020 5:43 am

sheblue wrote:Have to say I am surprised that the majority believe that we will be totally exonerated. I find that very hard to see. I think were looking at some sort of 'punishment'.


I agree but I think we all know that it wouldnt be right, and if we accept a bumming from fbe cunts I'm done with the competition.

They are bent. We may have evidence?

We MAY have been creative with the rules (any Business / accountant) but any evidence they have on this was obtained illegally therefore cant be evidence?

Add to that the process has been unjust?
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Re: MCFC v UEFA | CAS Appeal 8-10 Jun 20

Postby Hazy2 » Wed Jun 10, 2020 6:13 am

Not sure Mase the PL will stick the boot in!
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Re: MCFC v UEFA | CAS Appeal 8-10 Jun 20

Postby salford city » Wed Jun 10, 2020 8:59 am

Hazy2 wrote:Not sure Mase the PL will stick the boot in!


Both of the red shite's will already have lobbied the PL to rescind titles make no mistake.
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