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I believe what I see.
If it walks like a duck, quacks like a duck and looks like a duck then it is a duck.

Therefore, I believe the 2019/2020 PL title will be won by Liverpool because of 'help' from the PL implemented through VAR, match officials, fixture schedules, etc...
(The incredible 'energy levels' and 'luck with injuries' are a different discussion)

To implement the above takes a lot of organization and communication.
It has to also upset other clubs (particularly those fighting relegation, points lost could prove costly)

So how come there is no evidence surfacing that proves the corruption?

I would be really interested to know what you think?
(This thread is not a debate on if there is an agenda. Only reply if you think there is one)

Any thread is a debate mate

Money.

It usually is.

It's been hiding in plain sight all season and now it appears that the scousers are being treated like the rest pf us. The PL are content that them and their PIGMOL lackies have gotten them over the line and are now trying to make it look like they had nothing to do with it.
Going to be interesting when we bring down UEFA and then go after the PL the evidence is there and they wont have s leg to stand on

We have Oliver tonight, A ref with a history of shafting us one way or another.

Hazy2 wrote:We have Oliver tonight, A ref with a history of shafting us one way or another.

No VAR to get in his way either

I see we now play the Arse next Wednesday, was hoping for a rest that midweek before Madrid

john@staustell wrote:Any thread is a debate mate

This is just one for the converted. No dissenters allowed by the looks of things.

An inordinate amount of luck, perhaps a subconscious bias that sees them get the benefit of the doubt much more often than not but there's no fix.

I know I'm going to get pelters for this but I'm sorry these cries of fix or diminished title make us sound bitter.

They've been incredible this season, without looking altogether convincing they've put a phenomenal run of results together. I begrudgingly doff my cap.

Happy their wobble has finally arrived, long may it continue.

Perhaps pigmol think, job done they have the league let’s leave things now?

I posted the above last night in reply to Beefy saying something had changed. I believe they think that’s enough now, no need for anymore help from us, let nature take its course. Watch for a more conventional run of results from the dippers now

Foreverinbluedreams wrote:An inordinate amount of luck, perhaps a subconscious bias that sees them get the benefit of the doubt much more often than not but there's no fix.

I know I'm going to get pelters for this but I'm sorry these cries of fix or diminished title make us sound bitter.

They've been incredible this season, without looking altogether convincing they've put a phenomenal run of results together. I begrudgingly doff my cap.

Happy their wobble has finally arrived, long may it continue.

Everyone is entitled to their opinion mate.

I just can’t see passed the offside goals last season they got and last minute penalties. It’s just doesn’t make sense.

Foreverinbluedreams wrote:An inordinate amount of luck, perhaps a subconscious bias that sees them get the benefit of the doubt much more often than not but there's no fix.

I know I'm going to get pelters for this but I'm sorry these cries of fix or diminished title make us sound bitter.

They've been incredible this season, without looking altogether convincing they've put a phenomenal run of results together. I begrudgingly doff my cap.

Happy their wobble has finally arrived, long may it continue.

So you think that our leagues officials ,club hierarchy and players would never conspire to fuck over another club for money and that shit only happened in Germany, Italy and numerous other countries?

Its just plain and simple bad luck for some of the shit that we all get to see on a weekly basis.

Good to know.

carl_feedthegoat wrote:

Foreverinbluedreams wrote:An inordinate amount of luck, perhaps a subconscious bias that sees them get the benefit of the doubt much more often than not but there's no fix.

I know I'm going to get pelters for this but I'm sorry these cries of fix or diminished title make us sound bitter.

They've been incredible this season, without looking altogether convincing they've put a phenomenal run of results together. I begrudgingly doff my cap.

Happy their wobble has finally arrived, long may it continue.

So you think that our leagues officials ,club hierarchy and players would never conspire to fuck over another club for moneyand that shit only happened in Germany, Italy and numerous other countries?

Its just plain and simple bad luck for some of the shit that we all get to see on a weekly basis.

Good to know.

No, I don't think that. Don't know where you got that from.

Dimples wrote:I believe what I see.
If it walks like a duck, quacks like a duck and looks like a duck then it is a duck.

Therefore, I believe the 2019/2020 PL title will be won by Liverpool because of 'help' from the PL implemented through VAR, match officials, fixture schedules, etc...
(The incredible 'energy levels' and 'luck with injuries' are a different discussion)

To implement the above takes a lot of organization and communication.
It has to also upset other clubs (particularly those fighting relegation, points lost could prove costly)

So how come there is no evidence surfacing that proves the corruption?

I would be really interested to know what you think?
(This thread is not a debate on if there is an agenda. Only reply if you think there is one)

You have to ask in whose interest it would be to reveal whats going on (if anything)?

• EPL officials - nope - vested interest in building the brand.
  PGMOL - the refs sign non-disclosure contracts with PGMOL (I used to know a PL ref), and they would lose their income
  VAR technicians - on a contract to PGMOL so may have to sign the same contracts
  Media - they would lose access to the gravy train if they investigated the PL/PGMOL in any depth

Foreverinbluedreams wrote:

carl_feedthegoat wrote:

Foreverinbluedreams wrote:An inordinate amount of luck, perhaps a subconscious bias that sees them get the benefit of the doubt much more often than not but there's no fix.

I know I'm going to get pelters for this but I'm sorry these cries of fix or diminished title make us sound bitter.

They've been incredible this season, without looking altogether convincing they've put a phenomenal run of results together. I begrudgingly doff my cap.

Happy their wobble has finally arrived, long may it continue.

So you think that our leagues officials ,club hierarchy and players would never conspire to fuck over another club for moneyand that shit only happened in Germany, Italy and numerous other countries?

Its just plain and simple bad luck for some of the shit that we all get to see on a weekly basis.

Good to know.

No, I don't think that. Don't know where you got that from.

Probably got it from you when you actually fuckign said there is no fix ffs!

So you think the dippers have won all their games fair and square with a little bit of luck thrown in ...zero PLAIN bias/cheating from the officials?

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/football/20 ... lie-about/

Anthony Taylor is a rag he is involved in the Derby how the fuck can that be right. He can say wtf he wants about being an Alty fan get the fucker on a lie detector. He is a Wythenshawe RAG. IT IS A DISGRACE !

Scatman wrote:

john@staustell wrote:Any thread is a debate mate

This is just one for the converted. No dissenters allowed by the looks of things.

If you saw a betting slip fall out of a referees pocket you will find some reason to justify it eh Scatty !!

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/football/20 ... lie-about/

carl_feedthegoat wrote:

Foreverinbluedreams wrote:

carl_feedthegoat wrote:

Foreverinbluedreams wrote:An inordinate amount of luck, perhaps a subconscious bias that sees them get the benefit of the doubt much more often than not but there's no fix.

I know I'm going to get pelters for this but I'm sorry these cries of fix or diminished title make us sound bitter.

They've been incredible this season, without looking altogether convincing they've put a phenomenal run of results together. I begrudgingly doff my cap.

Happy their wobble has finally arrived, long may it continue.

So you think that our leagues officials ,club hierarchy and players would never conspire to fuck over another club for moneyand that shit only happened in Germany, Italy and numerous other countries?

Its just plain and simple bad luck for some of the shit that we all get to see on a weekly basis.

Good to know.

No, I don't think that. Don't know where you got that from.

Probably got it from you when you actually fuckign said there is no fix ffs!

So you think the dippers have won all their games fair and square with a little bit of luck thrown in ...zero PLAIN bias/cheating from the officials?

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/football/20 ... lie-about/

So because I said I don't believe this season is a fix doesn't mean I think it would never happen.

carl_feedthegoat wrote:

Foreverinbluedreams wrote:

carl_feedthegoat wrote:

Foreverinbluedreams wrote:An inordinate amount of luck, perhaps a subconscious bias that sees them get the benefit of the doubt much more often than not but there's no fix.

I know I'm going to get pelters for this but I'm sorry these cries of fix or diminished title make us sound bitter.

They've been incredible this season, without looking altogether convincing they've put a phenomenal run of results together. I begrudgingly doff my cap.

Happy their wobble has finally arrived, long may it continue.

So you think that our leagues officials ,club hierarchy and players would never conspire to fuck over another club for moneyand that shit only happened in Germany, Italy and numerous other countries?

Its just plain and simple bad luck for some of the shit that we all get to see on a weekly basis.

Good to know.

No, I don't think that. Don't know where you got that from.

Probably got it from you when you actually fuckign said there is no fix ffs!

So you think the dippers have won all their games fair and square with a little bit of luck thrown in ...zero PLAIN bias/cheating from the officials?

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/football/20 ... lie-about/

FIBD,

Foreverinbluedreams wrote: An inordinate amount of luck

Consider these: TAA's handball against us, Laporte's thumb-ball against Spurs, Dippers 90 min peno Vs. Leicester, 75 min peno Vs. Spurs, Robertson's lunges, and on and on........

Liverpool win the lotto whenever they are broke...

Foreverinbluedreams wrote:

carl_feedthegoat wrote:

Foreverinbluedreams wrote:

carl_feedthegoat wrote:

Foreverinbluedreams wrote:An inordinate amount of luck, perhaps a subconscious bias that sees them get the benefit of the doubt much more often than not but there's no fix.

I know I'm going to get pelters for this but I'm sorry these cries of fix or diminished title make us sound bitter.

They've been incredible this season, without looking altogether convincing they've put a phenomenal run of results together. I begrudgingly doff my cap.

Happy their wobble has finally arrived, long may it continue.

So you think that our leagues officials ,club hierarchy and players would never conspire to fuck over another club for moneyand that shit only happened in Germany, Italy and numerous other countries?

Its just plain and simple bad luck for some of the shit that we all get to see on a weekly basis.

Good to know.

No, I don't think that. Don't know where you got that from.

Probably got it from you when you actually fuckign said there is no fix ffs!

So you think the dippers have won all their games fair and square with a little bit of luck thrown in ...zero PLAIN bias/cheating from the officials?

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/football/20 ... lie-about/

So because I said I don't believe this season is a fix doesn't mean I think it would never happen.

Yawn

I have considered them Dimples, thats why I'm saying they've had an inordinate amount of luck.

I recall fans from other clubs coming out with all sorts of theories about City's league wins in the last couple of years, doping, bribing etc. It just smacks of bitterness, I'm sorry.