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With Liverpool, UNITED, Barcelona, madrid"

Is he high ? Just makes me thinks a part of is him doing something on purpose.

We all of a sudden cant conpete with a mid table side ?

Nick wrote:With Liverpool, UNITED, Barcelona, madrid"

Is he high ? Just makes me thinks a part of is him doing something on purpose.

We all of a sudden cant conpete with a mid table side ?

He also listed Juventus - another of the "entitled european elite". However, I think you've missed the main point he is making in this. Although he's mentioned our defending of counter attacks, he clearly states "especially, as well, the things we cannot control". To me, that's as direct a pop at officials and VAR as he's able to make without getting into trouble.
Against the scum, as well as against the dippers, calls went against us that could/would have changed the game. Same has happened in the last couple of CL seasons. That's my take on what he's saying, anyway.

Meant to add that we were crap in the 1st half, too. Don't know why we didn't turn up......

"maybe" you left that out Nick.

I think he's talking about current form, it's hard to argue with him if he is.

Too many players are nowhere near their top level at the moment.

Fwiw I think he needs to get his head out of his arse and adapt, he needs to accept we are not controlling games and adjust his tactics accordingly. Going into the derby I was thinking there's only one way they can compete with us, on the counter, they are excellent on the counter (shit when they're the ones trying to break teams down), yet no adjustments were made to safeguard against it and we got what we deserved.

If he thinks on current form we can't compete with the rags he needs to leave here.

Mase wrote:If he thinks on current form we can't compete with the rags he needs to leave here.

Why? All teams hit patches of poor form.

Under- performing is not the same as competing. WTF is he talking about. Foden could replace Bernado and Davids on form alone. He is busy and full of energy. To many as said above defying the ability they have, week in week out way below par performances. Norwich and Newcastle along with the scum, outworked us simple basics. We will face the same with the Foxes and Sheff United, both on current levels are going to be hard work. He is right on the CL we stand next to no chance of winning it, To many sides with legs we cannot cope with pace. On Var it is a weapon used against us, but take it out of the picture play well batter teams and all will look after itself. Saturday was shit tactics playing into the scums hands, allowing them to do what they wanted from min 1 counter us at will that is on Pep.

True the pop at VAR is good, but the choice of words and directly talking up the rags pissed me off.

The worry is that we have had a bad patch of form for some time, and it has no sign of changing.

We are frustrated because hes not trying to change it. Doing the same things over and over again has us losing more games until at least Jan.

Nick wrote:True the pop at VAR is good, but the choice of words and directly talking up the rags pissed me off.

The worry is that we have had a bad patch of form for some time, and it has no sign of changing.

We are frustrated because hes not trying to change it. Doing the same things over and over again has us losing more games until at least Jan.

The cunt wouldn't have dared to talk up Real Madrid when he was Barca Manager and certainly wouldn't have told their fans to stop booing an anthem - he gets away with it at City.

The kind of talk hes talking is getting on my fucking nerves , the lucky cunt is backed to the hilt by our club and paid the best salary in world football - he wins when he has the best players available whereas a true great will work with what he has (And lets face it , its not like he has a fucking B side from the championship art his disposal) and make a plan that works.

Hes fucked up with playing out of form players when he has options and its cost him.

VAR has fucked us and we all know it but that's no excuse to be embarrassed by that shower of shit across the road.

He needs to start thinking what can be done to turn things around instead of being the arrogant Catalan cunt that he is persisting with under performing players.

He is correct ON CURRENT FORM we cannot compete.
Were having a bad season. It wont always be like this.
Some seem to want him gone. That's is mad.
I dont want him gone but I do want him to stop making mistakes.

Agree with Carl 100%

We dont want him gone but we want him to get his ego in check. He is sounded like Maureen.

" we are in bad form, it happens" isnt good enough.

Stop persisting with what doesn't work.

1) play foden more, bring him on earlier when dave is off it.
2) put dinho in midfield; either giving garcia game time or (less favourable option) play stones and otter.
3) settle a back 4
4) think about a Plan B - find a way of playing bernando central.. how about:

Sterling kev bernando mahrez
Rodri

Every our has called for 1) and 2) for weeks.

Peps success is unquestioned, but he isn't bigger than the club and I dont like the arrogance, lack of love for us that comes across sometimes. And that's why Mancini gets brought up every time. I want passion and affinity. Yes the players are fucking up, but he doesnt seem as arsed, isnt forcing the intensity.

I still remember pep going mad at eastlands when barca scored and wed announced he was coming. Hiding his joy with a daft scarf.

Foreverinbluedreams wrote:

Mase wrote:If he thinks on current form we can't compete with the rags he needs to leave here.

Why? All teams hit patches of poor form.

The rags aren't in form. Neither are we. So we can't beat an out of form rags?

I think it’s a comment about VAR and other things like press favouribility however he is not the one who should have his head down - it’s not just VAR that is the cause of our woes this season

sheblue wrote:He is correct ON CURRENT FORM we cannot compete.
Were having a bad season. It wont always be like this.
Some seem to want him gone. That's is mad.
I dont want him gone but I do want him to stop making mistakes.

I don't think anyone wants him gone, there is alot of frustration he's not playing academy players when the senior ones been shite. We are not going to win the title, there is no better time to take a gamble on them, if not this season, when? We have raw talent other teams can only dream of, it's not like the senior players are delivering...I'm sure most fans will get behind him if he gambled with Garcia and Foden even if results didn't go out way.

Outcast wrote:

sheblue wrote:He is correct ON CURRENT FORM we cannot compete.
Were having a bad season. It wont always be like this.
Some seem to want him gone. That's is mad.
I dont want him gone but I do want him to stop making mistakes.

I don't think anyone wants him gone, there is alot of frustration he's not playing academy players when the senior ones been shite. We are not going to win the title, there is no better time to take a gamble on them, if not this season, when? We have raw talent other teams can only dream of, it's not like the senior players are delivering...I'm sure most fans will get behind him if he gambled with Garcia and Foden even if results didn't go out way.

Exactly - He tried Angelino and now if he’s dropped for numerous games over the rest of this season then no one will complain about it as ya least he gave him some FULL games to cement a place down just like Zinchenko did .

Foden and Garcia deserve FULL games to prove themselves .

Exactly - He tried Angelino and now if he’s dropped for numerous games over the rest of this season then no one will complain about it as ya least he gave him some FULL games to cement a place down just like Zinchenko did .

Foden and Garcia deserve FULL games to prove themselves .[/quote]
Surely both will start in Zagreb if garcia is eligible(?) I doubt he will play Garcia at Arsenal but he is going to play at oxford so that should be 2 games in a week for him. Got to play Fiden instead of Silva in Zagreb and then Arsenal

I think he only made those comments so he could let the PL , FA , Pigmol and Sky know that we are being done over by VAR and 'The Organisation' .

What the fuck is he doing and he is on about?

If he wants to go, why the fuck didn't he do it last summer after he won everything? Why go another season and exit the back door? Just because he wanted another go at the UCL?

I swear, he really is a mistery.

PeterParker wrote:What the fuck is he doing and he is on about?

If he wants to go, why the fuck didn't he do it last summer after he won everything? Why go another season and exit the back door? Just because he wanted another go at the UCL?

I swear, he really is a mistery.

You what?