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Re: finishing 2020/21 (behind closed doors edition)

Postby Foreverinbluedreams » Sun Dec 13, 2020 2:13 pm

carl_feedthegoat wrote:
Foreverinbluedreams wrote:
Nigels Tackle wrote:the point of this thread is that we’ve never been clinical


We were the most clinical side in the Premier League the season you started this.


BaldIe disagrees...said we miss lots of chances and we need to improve this.

The above is FAC............TUAL.


When did he say that, was it during the 17/18 season when NT started this?
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Re: finishing 2020/21 (behind closed doors edition)

Postby carl_feedthegoat » Sun Dec 13, 2020 2:19 pm

Foreverinbluedreams wrote:
carl_feedthegoat wrote:
Foreverinbluedreams wrote:
Nigels Tackle wrote:the point of this thread is that we’ve never been clinical


We were the most clinical side in the Premier League the season you started this.


BaldIe disagrees...said we miss lots of chances and we need to improve this.

The above is FAC............TUAL.


When did he say that, was it during the 17/18 season when NT started this?


No - and try doing your own homework ffs !!

18/19 season

"In the big events, especially in the Champions League, we need to be more clinical in this situation because sooner or later we are not going to win."
He then said in his post-match press conference: "I still feel we have a lot to improve."
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Re: finishing 2020/21 (behind closed doors edition)

Postby Foreverinbluedreams » Sun Dec 13, 2020 2:26 pm

carl_feedthegoat wrote:
Foreverinbluedreams wrote:
carl_feedthegoat wrote:
Foreverinbluedreams wrote:
Nigels Tackle wrote:the point of this thread is that we’ve never been clinical


We were the most clinical side in the Premier League the season you started this.


BaldIe disagrees...said we miss lots of chances and we need to improve this.

The above is FAC............TUAL.


When did he say that, was it during the 17/18 season when NT started this?


No - and try doing your own homework ffs !!

18/19 season

"In the big events, especially in the Champions League, we need to be more clinical in this situation because sooner or later we are not going to win."
He then said in his post-match press conference: "I still feel we have a lot to improve."


Look at the opening post, he started this the season before when we were the most clinical side in the league.
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Re: finishing 2020/21 (behind closed doors edition)

Postby Bluemoon4610 » Sun Dec 13, 2020 8:42 pm

When did he say that, was it during the 17/18 season when NT started this?[/quote]

No - and try doing your own homework ffs !!

18/19 season

"In the big events, especially in the Champions League, we need to be more clinical in this situation because sooner or later we are not going to win."
He then said in his post-match press conference: "I still feel we have a lot to improve."[/quote]

Look at the opening post, he started this the season before when we were the most clinical side in the league.[/quote]

Every team's fans hopes/wants/expects their team to score every time they have the ball. We are no different. However, that almost always doesn't happen. Opta do analysis of how many goals a team should score (or concede) based on an "expected goals" model. After analysing over 300,000 shots, expected goals (xG) measures the quality of a shot based on a number of different variables. The metric gives an indication as to how many goals a team should have scored (or conceded) on average based on the chances they have had/given up. Last season, when we couldn't defend properly or score for toffee, both xG for and xG against were within 1 goal of what actually happened. So either xG is a shit metric and our finishing and defending really was crap, or it's pretty accurate and we're just a bunch of moaning twats that have got too used to scoring for fun and can't believe we're now scoring "normal" numbers.
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Re: finishing 2020/21 (behind closed doors edition)

Postby Bluemoon4610 » Sun Dec 13, 2020 9:06 pm

Just checked the numbers for this season and we are 2.2 goals behind xG for and 0.2 goals ahead of xG against. At best that's another 4 points for us (one goal in each of 2 games we've drawn) or we could have put 7 past Burnley. Still, not too far away from where we're at so far.
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Re: finishing 2020/21 (behind closed doors edition)

Postby Foreverinbluedreams » Mon Dec 14, 2020 9:38 am

Bluemoon4610 wrote:Just checked the numbers for this season and we are 2.2 goals behind xG for and 0.2 goals ahead of xG against. At best that's another 4 points for us (one goal in each of 2 games we've drawn) or we could have put 7 past Burnley. Still, not too far away from where we're at so far.


I'm not convinced by xG because it doesn't factor in chances which don't lead to a shot, for example if a striker one on one tries to round the keeper but fails this is not counted on the xG.

Another example is when all a player has to do is square the ball for a simple tap in but shoots instead, the xG is for that shot when there was a much better chance on, which you'd expect to be scored.

It's good for measuring conversion but not for gauging how clinical a side is.
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Re: finishing 2020/21 (behind closed doors edition)

Postby carl_feedthegoat » Mon Dec 14, 2020 10:25 am

Foreverinbluedreams wrote:
Bluemoon4610 wrote:Just checked the numbers for this season and we are 2.2 goals behind xG for and 0.2 goals ahead of xG against. At best that's another 4 points for us (one goal in each of 2 games we've drawn) or we could have put 7 past Burnley. Still, not too far away from where we're at so far.


I'm not convinced by xG because it doesn't factor in chances which don't lead to a shot, for example if a striker one on one tries to round the keeper but fails this is not counted on the xG.

Another example is when all a player has to do is square the ball for a simple tap in but shoots instead, the xG is for that shot when there was a much better chance on, which you'd expect to be scored.

It's good for measuring conversion but not for gauging how clinical a side is.


Too much goes into these analytical factors of players performances - its not hard to see a player fuck up in front of goal when he should have scored.......is it.
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Re: finishing 2020/21 (behind closed doors edition)

Postby Nigels Tackle » Tue Dec 15, 2020 9:49 pm

shite again
seriously embarrassing
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Re: finishing 2020/21 (behind closed doors edition)

Postby carl_feedthegoat » Tue Dec 15, 2020 10:08 pm

Nigels Tackle wrote:shite again
seriously embarrassing


But what was the XG in this game ?
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Re: finishing 2020/21 (behind closed doors edition)

Postby Nigels Tackle » Tue Dec 15, 2020 10:11 pm

carl_feedthegoat wrote:
Nigels Tackle wrote:shite again
seriously embarrassing


But what was the XG in this game ?


it's not an issue though carl is it?
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Re: finishing 2020/21 (behind closed doors edition)

Postby zuricity » Tue Dec 15, 2020 10:37 pm

Nigels Tackle wrote:
carl_feedthegoat wrote:
Nigels Tackle wrote:shite again
seriously embarrassing


But what was the XG in this game ?


it's not an issue though carl is it?


Nope it is not ,

Pep has made sure that he has become the issue and not the team. Or whoever plays up front.
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Re: finishing 2020/21 (behind closed doors edition)

Postby Nigels Tackle » Sat Dec 19, 2020 4:54 pm

hmmmm
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Re: finishing 2020/21 (behind closed doors edition)

Postby sheblue » Sat Dec 19, 2020 5:51 pm

Heard someone say we had no shots on target 2nd half.
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Re: finishing 2020/21 (behind closed doors edition)

Postby belleebee » Sat Dec 19, 2020 6:23 pm

sheblue wrote:Heard someone say we had no shots on target 2nd half.


Sure we had at least one: Kev's weak effort into their goalkeeper's arms.
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Re: finishing 2020/21 (behind closed doors edition)

Postby Foreverinbluedreams » Sat Dec 19, 2020 10:22 pm

belleebee wrote:
sheblue wrote:Heard someone say we had no shots on target 2nd half.


Sure we had at least one: Kev's weak effort into their goalkeeper's arms.


And McCarthy saving from Gundo in the top corner.
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Re: finishing 2020/21 (behind closed doors edition)

Postby Beefymcfc » Sat Dec 19, 2020 11:09 pm

Foreverinbluedreams wrote:
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sheblue wrote:Heard someone say we had no shots on target 2nd half.


Sure we had at least one: Kev's weak effort into their goalkeeper's arms.


And McCarthy saving from Gundo in the top corner.

And what a save it was. Bastard!
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Re: finishing 2020/21 (behind closed doors edition)

Postby johnny crossan » Sun Dec 20, 2020 10:13 am

Beefymcfc wrote:
Foreverinbluedreams wrote:
belleebee wrote:
sheblue wrote:Heard someone say we had no shots on target 2nd half.


Sure we had at least one: Kev's weak effort into their goalkeeper's arms.


And McCarthy saving from Gundo in the top corner.

And what a save it was. Bastard!

Gundo's left foot too - impressive
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Re: finishing 2020/21 (behind closed doors edition)

Postby zuricity » Sun Dec 20, 2020 10:17 am

johnny crossan wrote:
Beefymcfc wrote:
Foreverinbluedreams wrote:
belleebee wrote:
sheblue wrote:Heard someone say we had no shots on target 2nd half.


Sure we had at least one: Kev's weak effort into their goalkeeper's arms.


And McCarthy saving from Gundo in the top corner.

And what a save it was. Bastard!

Gundo's left foot too - impressive


Yeah , what has Gundo ever done for us ?
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Re: finishing 2020/21 (behind closed doors edition)

Postby branny » Sun Dec 20, 2020 11:15 am

Did a great Chuckle bros impression with that move late on. Sterling didn't fancy it so played Bernado in. He didn't fancy it so squared it to Mahrez to volley over from six yards out. I seriously thought they were taking the piss with that.
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Re: finishing 2020/21 (behind closed doors edition)

Postby zuricity » Sun Dec 20, 2020 11:22 am

branny wrote:Did a great Chuckle bros impression with that move late on. Sterling didn't fancy it so played Bernado in. He didn't fancy it so squared it to Mahrez to volley over from six yards out. I seriously thought they were taking the piss with that.


indeed it doesn't make sense Bernardo is a left footer , you would think he shoot at goal .
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