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Apparently, like FINANCIAL "FAIR" PLAY, this is to stop the evil big teams and give the little guy a chance.

Gosh UEFA, you guys really do care.

That doesn't actually sound so bad on the face of it. The big teams signing far too many players and loaning out more than they keep is a problem IMO

I agree with him about player hoarding (and that's clearly aimed at us and Chelsea at the very least) - but the phrase 'luxury tax' is a bit disturbing, no details given but it sounds like another attempt at punishing us for having a wealthy owner.

Juventus have 50 players loaned out. Chelsea and ourselves 30+.

Is it a problem? Are players getting raw deals whilst on loan or being marginalised?

Or is it something to penalise those clubs who are on the verge of challenging the "Blue Ribband" of Bayern, Barca and Madrid?

nottsblue wrote:Juventus have 50 players loaned out. Chelsea and ourselves 30+.

Is it a problem? Are players getting raw deals whilst on loan or being marginalised?

Or is it something to penalise those clubs who are on the verge of challenging the "Blue Ribband" of Bayern, Barca and Madrid?

we get the prize, we've got the biggest stockpile in the country!

Nice PR exercise. Unfortunately the big clubs won't allow it to happen.

Scatman wrote:Nice PR exercise. Unfortunately the big clubs won't allow it to happen.

My thoughts Scat. It'll be bye bye Uefa

Strange how everything they try to do is aimed at stopping us.

Surely the definition of 'luxury' is not being accountable for debt?

I expect something to be announced to stop CFG once this latest what is probably Gill inspired attempt to leg up the rags fails.

Make no bones about it, UEFA introduced this problem with FFP.

The only reason clubs "Stockpile" players, is so that they can turn a penny and sell them on, thus adding turnover, and profit to the accounts, to help the club pass the FFP regulations.

Yet another of example of how short-sighted UEFA were with their proposal.

I've said it before, IMO the only way to ensure fairness is to have all clubs playing to the same tune. Have a set wage budget, and a set transfer budget that all teams have to work within. None of this, according to turnover bollocks.
Exceed it and you get punished by way of points deduction.
If you're in debt, your limits are reduced etc

nottsblue wrote:Juventus have 50 players loaned out. Chelsea and ourselves 30+.

Is it a problem? Are players getting raw deals whilst on loan or being marginalised?

Or is it something to penalise those clubs who are on the verge of challenging the "Blue Ribband" of Bayern, Barca and Madrid?

Interestingly, all three of those teams you mentioned have second teams playing further down their own league systems, meaning they have no need to loan out excess players that they hoard. One result of this could be a push for the bigger leagues to permit second teams playing lower down a league system, something that English football has been vehemently against.

pepsi_dave wrote:
I've said it before, IMO the only way to ensure fairness is to have all clubs playing to the same tune. Have a set wage budget, and a set transfer budget that all teams have to work within. None of this, according to turnover bollocks.
Exceed it and you get punished by way of points deduction.
If you're in debt, your limits are reduced etc

that would be horrid. parity is boring AF.

City have been fined €18,000 by UEFA for an 'invasion by supporters', objects thrown and late kick-off during the February game vs. Monaco.

Foreverinbluedreams wrote:City have been fined €18,000 by UEFA for an 'invasion by supporters', objects thrown and late kick-off during the February game vs. Monaco.

Fuck em

Foreverinbluedreams wrote:City have been fined €18,000 by UEFA for an 'invasion by supporters', objects thrown and late kick-off during the February game vs. Monaco.

We could save a bit of cash by just doing monkey chants for 90 minutes instead.

BlueinBosnia wrote:

nottsblue wrote:Juventus have 50 players loaned out. Chelsea and ourselves 30+.

Is it a problem? Are players getting raw deals whilst on loan or being marginalised?

Or is it something to penalise those clubs who are on the verge of challenging the "Blue Ribband" of Bayern, Barca and Madrid?

Interestingly, all three of those teams you mentioned have second teams playing further down their own league systems, meaning they have no need to loan out excess players that they hoard. One result of this could be a push for the bigger leagues to permit second teams playing lower down a league system, something that English football has been vehemently against.

Excellent point BiB.

BlueinBosnia wrote:

Foreverinbluedreams wrote:City have been fined €18,000 by UEFA for an 'invasion by supporters', objects thrown and late kick-off during the February game vs. Monaco.

We could save a bit of cash by just doing monkey chants for 90 minutes instead.

Had me laughing, but sadly very true.

Foreverinbluedreams wrote:City have been fined €18,000 by UEFA for an 'invasion by supporters', objects thrown and late kick-off during the February game vs. Monaco.

We should just set up standing orders to UEFA and The FA to pay them their extortion money.

gillie wrote:

Foreverinbluedreams wrote:City have been fined €18,000 by UEFA for an 'invasion by supporters', objects thrown and late kick-off during the February game vs. Monaco.

We should just set up standing orders to UEFA and The FA to pay them their extortion money.

Hi mate, great to see you back!
Hope you are doing OK in spite of all.

mr_nool wrote:

gillie wrote:

Foreverinbluedreams wrote:City have been fined €18,000 by UEFA for an 'invasion by supporters', objects thrown and late kick-off during the February game vs. Monaco.

We should just set up standing orders to UEFA and The FA to pay them their extortion money.

Hi mate, great to see you back!
Hope you are doing OK in spite of all.

Yeah Erik I'm doing fine although today has been hard. You ok mate?

gillie wrote:

mr_nool wrote:

gillie wrote:

Foreverinbluedreams wrote:City have been fined €18,000 by UEFA for an 'invasion by supporters', objects thrown and late kick-off during the February game vs. Monaco.

We should just set up standing orders to UEFA and The FA to pay them their extortion money.

Hi mate, great to see you back!
Hope you are doing OK in spite of all.

Yeah Erik I'm doing fine although today has been hard. You ok mate?

Yes, I'm just fine mate although it's been way too long since i was in Manchester. Thinking about running the half marathon on October 15, which would be my next visit. I'll be in touch if so.