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Niall Quinns Discopants wrote:

Lee_R wrote:1 step back.. hopefully 2 steps forward.

Come on you lot.. remember when we had to sell SWP to pay the wages?..
Any other team in the world would have Pep as their manager.. so lets stop being spoilt cunts.

Kisses etc.

I'm kind of getting tired of all this "you've been spoiled" stuff. Yeah, I was around when we were shit. No, I haven't forgotten anything. Yes, I praise the mighty Bacchus every single day for bringing us Sheik. Yes, I do know we are living the dream.

BUT I'm tired of using that as an excuse for people WHO CAME AFTER TAKEOVER. There isn't single player, manager, youth team scout, physio, team doctor or executive who would be around if the takeover hadn't happened. You have to go to kitman and probably some low level assistants beforw you could even imagine these people being kind who would be here regardless.

SO, I do have patience and I'm not asking for Pep's head but for me our past isn't an acceptable excuse for failure for people who have NOTHING TO DO WITH OUR PAST. We are so far removed from that past that the resources should be measure for expectations and right now there are people at pitch and executive level (I'm looking at you Txiki) who are failing.

Hazy2 wrote:

Niall Quinns Discopants wrote:

Lee_R wrote:1 step back.. hopefully 2 steps forward.

Come on you lot.. remember when we had to sell SWP to pay the wages?..
Any other team in the world would have Pep as their manager.. so lets stop being spoilt cunts.

Kisses etc.

I'm kind of getting tired of all this "you've been spoiled" stuff. Yeah, I was around when we were shit. No, I haven't forgotten anything. Yes, I praise the mighty Bacchus every single day for bringing us Sheik. Yes, I do know we are living the dream.

BUT I'm tired of using that as an excuse for people WHO CAME AFTER TAKEOVER. There isn't single player, manager, youth team scout, physio, team doctor or executive who would be around if the takeover hadn't happened. You have to go to kitman and probably some low level assistants beforw you could even imagine these people being kind who would be here regardless.

SO, I do have patience and I'm not asking for Pep's head but for me our past isn't an acceptable excuse for failure for people who have NOTHING TO DO WITH OUR PAST. We are so far removed from that past that the resources should be measure for expectations and right now there are people at pitch and executive level (I'm looking at you Txiki) who are failing.

Failing no, allowing Pep to get his seat adjusted for the ride yes.

Mikhail Chigorin wrote:

Hazy2 wrote:

Niall Quinns Discopants wrote:

Lee_R wrote:1 step back.. hopefully 2 steps forward.

Come on you lot.. remember when we had to sell SWP to pay the wages?..
Any other team in the world would have Pep as their manager.. so lets stop being spoilt cunts.

Kisses etc.

I'm kind of getting tired of all this "you've been spoiled" stuff. Yeah, I was around when we were shit. No, I haven't forgotten anything. Yes, I praise the mighty Bacchus every single day for bringing us Sheik. Yes, I do know we are living the dream.

BUT I'm tired of using that as an excuse for people WHO CAME AFTER TAKEOVER. There isn't single player, manager, youth team scout, physio, team doctor or executive who would be around if the takeover hadn't happened. You have to go to kitman and probably some low level assistants beforw you could even imagine these people being kind who would be here regardless.

SO, I do have patience and I'm not asking for Pep's head but for me our past isn't an acceptable excuse for failure for people who have NOTHING TO DO WITH OUR PAST. We are so far removed from that past that the resources should be measure for expectations and right now there are people at pitch and executive level (I'm looking at you Txiki) who are failing.

Failing no, allowing Pep to get his seat adjusted for the ride yes.

Apologies Hazy, but I've got to defer to NQDP's terminology with regard to the word "failing", as this is, to my mind, more accurate.

Hazy2 wrote:

Niall Quinns Discopants wrote:

Lee_R wrote:1 step back.. hopefully 2 steps forward.

Come on you lot.. remember when we had to sell SWP to pay the wages?..
Any other team in the world would have Pep as their manager.. so lets stop being spoilt cunts.

Kisses etc.

I'm kind of getting tired of all this "you've been spoiled" stuff. Yeah, I was around when we were shit. No, I haven't forgotten anything. Yes, I praise the mighty Bacchus every single day for bringing us Sheik. Yes, I do know we are living the dream.

BUT I'm tired of using that as an excuse for people WHO CAME AFTER TAKEOVER. There isn't single player, manager, youth team scout, physio, team doctor or executive who would be around if the takeover hadn't happened. You have to go to kitman and probably some low level assistants beforw you could even imagine these people being kind who would be here regardless.

SO, I do have patience and I'm not asking for Pep's head but for me our past isn't an acceptable excuse for failure for people who have NOTHING TO DO WITH OUR PAST. We are so far removed from that past that the resources should be measure for expectations and right now there are people at pitch and executive level (I'm looking at you Txiki) who are failing.

Failing no, allowing Pep to get his seat adjusted for the ride yes.

Niall Quinns Discopants wrote:

Hazy2 wrote:

Niall Quinns Discopants wrote:

Lee_R wrote:1 step back.. hopefully 2 steps forward.

Come on you lot.. remember when we had to sell SWP to pay the wages?..
Any other team in the world would have Pep as their manager.. so lets stop being spoilt cunts.

Kisses etc.

I'm kind of getting tired of all this "you've been spoiled" stuff. Yeah, I was around when we were shit. No, I haven't forgotten anything. Yes, I praise the mighty Bacchus every single day for bringing us Sheik. Yes, I do know we are living the dream.

BUT I'm tired of using that as an excuse for people WHO CAME AFTER TAKEOVER. There isn't single player, manager, youth team scout, physio, team doctor or executive who would be around if the takeover hadn't happened. You have to go to kitman and probably some low level assistants beforw you could even imagine these people being kind who would be here regardless.

SO, I do have patience and I'm not asking for Pep's head but for me our past isn't an acceptable excuse for failure for people who have NOTHING TO DO WITH OUR PAST. We are so far removed from that past that the resources should be measure for expectations and right now there are people at pitch and executive level (I'm looking at you Txiki) who are failing.

Failing no, allowing Pep to get his seat adjusted for the ride yes.

Absolutely I'm giving Pep the time he needs. My point was that just ebacuse we were once shite doesn't mean we should accept just about any performance at any level as long as it's better than Alan fucking Ball or Swales.

BookJunior wrote:

Dimples wrote:IMO most of Pep's critics on this forum are over the top because:

1. The defence was targeted for improvement but we could not get our targets: Laporte, Bonucci, etc...
2. We did buy a second top class striker - Jesus
3. Pep's midfielders of choice are currently unavailable:
Gundogan injured and F1 suspended (unfairly when compared to Rojo, Fellani, Rooney and Zlatan's actions)
4. The attacking players are Peps choices, Sterling (probably), Brown, Sane, etc... and they are doing well BUT
Kun is not scoring (is he even trying?). To me it looks like Kun will be gone in the Summer.
5. The Sky/FA agenda anti us and pro Rags (get Rags in top 4 at our expense). That is costing us points directly and indirectly.
Penalties not given, F1 unavailable, etc...

We do have glaring weaknesses because of the above issues that they tried to address but could not.
The weaknesses are: 1. GK (A Pep mistake), 2. Defence (2 full backs + center half), 3. Kun. 4. A younger F1
5. No Steel/cojones/balle/polota/palla/bollar/liathróidí/myachi (we really really need this. Dare I say it Joey B or James Milner type of toughness).

IMO what will happen is:

1. All of the above five issues will be addressed this Summer.
2. IMO right now at boardroom level intense 'discussions' are taking place with the Sky/FA to ensure a level playing field.
It is inconceivable to me that our owners will not use their muscle to sort this out - pronto.
I believe they will prevail.

Write of this season. We might scrape top4 and with a kind draw progress in the CL (more suited to our defence).

Give Pep a break. Next season is the year to judge him.

Dimples wrote:

BookJunior wrote:

Dimples wrote:IMO most of Pep's critics on this forum are over the top because:

1. The defence was targeted for improvement but we could not get our targets: Laporte, Bonucci, etc...
2. We did buy a second top class striker - Jesus
3. Pep's midfielders of choice are currently unavailable:
Gundogan injured and F1 suspended (unfairly when compared to Rojo, Fellani, Rooney and Zlatan's actions)
4. The attacking players are Peps choices, Sterling (probably), Brown, Sane, etc... and they are doing well BUT
Kun is not scoring (is he even trying?). To me it looks like Kun will be gone in the Summer.
5. The Sky/FA agenda anti us and pro Rags (get Rags in top 4 at our expense). That is costing us points directly and indirectly.
Penalties not given, F1 unavailable, etc...

We do have glaring weaknesses because of the above issues that they tried to address but could not.
The weaknesses are: 1. GK (A Pep mistake), 2. Defence (2 full backs + center half), 3. Kun. 4. A younger F1
5. No Steel/cojones/balle/polota/palla/bollar/liathróidí/myachi (we really really need this. Dare I say it Joey B or James Milner type of toughness).

IMO what will happen is:

1. All of the above five issues will be addressed this Summer.
2. IMO right now at boardroom level intense 'discussions' are taking place with the Sky/FA to ensure a level playing field.
It is inconceivable to me that our owners will not use their muscle to sort this out - pronto.
I believe they will prevail.

Write of this season. We might scrape top4 and with a kind draw progress in the CL (more suited to our defence).

Give Pep a break. Next season is the year to judge him.

Saw nothing today to change my opinions detailed above.
I think Pep will assembly a great team for next season and have then playing to win.
However, he has no chance until the Club get the corrupt Sky and FA influence sorted.
Think Chelsea game and Spurs today just for starters. No manager can win when it is that bent.
Today was, AGAIN, blatant robbery.

The club have muscle, I really hope they are working on getting this sorted at boardroom level.
In the long term the PL will lose out. Nobody fans outside of their preferred top 4 will bother watching.

City64 wrote:We played really well yesterday , high tempo and quick on the break . We have some outstanding young attacking talent in Sane and Jesus and Sterling and KDB is world class when right on it . Pep also has Yaya and Silva playing at there best again , no mean feat for sure .We have made Arsenal the Rags and Spurs look average and convincingly hammered Barcelona all this with a terrible defence and keeper although Willy played well v Barca . When pep finally sorts the defence out and brings in a top quality keeper we will be fine I am sure , Some managers start rebuilding with the defence back to front seems pep is doing it the other way front to back ?? We were very good yesterday v Spurs apart from the same old defensive issues and bad luck again ........ oh for a fully fit Vinny at his best and leading the team a top class left back and top class keeper we will be awesome fucking awesome !!!

mr_nool wrote:

City64 wrote:We played really well yesterday , high tempo and quick on the break . We have some outstanding young attacking talent in Sane and Jesus and Sterling and KDB is world class when right on it . Pep also has Yaya and Silva playing at there best again , no mean feat for sure .We have made Arsenal the Rags and Spurs look average and convincingly hammered Barcelona all this with a terrible defence and keeper although Willy played well v Barca . When pep finally sorts the defence out and brings in a top quality keeper we will be fine I am sure , Some managers start rebuilding with the defence back to front seems pep is doing it the other way front to back ?? We were very good yesterday v Spurs apart from the same old defensive issues and bad luck again ........ oh for a fully fit Vinny at his best and leading the team a top class left back and top class keeper we will be awesome fucking awesome !!!

Good post mate! I secretly believe that we will win the CL this season.

nottsblue wrote:Reading this morning that Pep is considering extending his City contract. Great news if true

Wondering whether the bias against us on and off the field has triggered some sort of siege mentality in him. He seems a very driven fella and one who strives for success and perfection. I think he is truly shocked at what he has seen, read and heard this year and I wonder whether that will spur him on to stay longer than first planned

Moonchesteri wrote:

nottsblue wrote:Reading this morning that Pep is considering extending his City contract. Great news if true

Wondering whether the bias against us on and off the field has triggered some sort of siege mentality in him. He seems a very driven fella and one who strives for success and perfection. I think he is truly shocked at what he has seen, read and heard this year and I wonder whether that will spur him on to stay longer than first planned

I would love this.
As long as he drops Bravo.

Moonchesteri wrote:

nottsblue wrote:Reading this morning that Pep is considering extending his City contract. Great news if true

Wondering whether the bias against us on and off the field has triggered some sort of siege mentality in him. He seems a very driven fella and one who strives for success and perfection. I think he is truly shocked at what he has seen, read and heard this year and I wonder whether that will spur him on to stay longer than first planned

I would love this.
As long as he drops Bravo.

Wooders wrote:i think he realises it will take more than 3 years to turn the ship around

dazby wrote:"Recruitment has been poor."

That just isn't true.