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I'm surprised you missed the point I was making Freshie.

Foreverinbluedreams wrote:I'm surprised you missed the point I was making Freshie.

I think you're missing mine

Tom Heaton

phips wrote:Tom Heaton

Interesting call, but he's 31 in March of this year, so he's only got the same potential longevity as Bravo, which is a little less than desirable. Don't know how much he would cost as he just signed a new four year contract with Burnley last summer.

Moreover, although he's put in a fair number of good performances for them this season, he's playing in a side which, more often than not, 'parks the bus' in order to try and amass enough survival points to stay in the PL.

On that basis, he always has plenty of cover in front of him whereas, if he signed for us, his defensive screen, by its very nature, would be a lot more sparse. Whether, or not, he would cope with that is anyone's guess.

A lot of pluses and minuses, but an interesting call nonetheless.

Mikhail Chigorin wrote:

phips wrote:Tom Heaton

Interesting call, but he's 31 in March of this year, so he's only got the same potential longevity as Bravo, which is a little less than desirable. Don't know how much he would cost as he just signed a new four year contract with Burnley last summer.

Moreover, although he's put in a fair number of good performances for them this season, he's playing in a side which, more often than not, 'parks the bus' in order to try and amass enough survival points to stay in the PL.

On that basis, he always has plenty of cover in front of him whereas, if he signed for us, his defensive screen, by its very nature, would be a lot more sparse. Whether, or not, he would cope with that is anyone's guess.

A lot of pluses and minuses, but an interesting call nonetheless.

He is a rag. Therefore we shouldn't sign him if there are other options

nottsblue wrote:

Mikhail Chigorin wrote:

phips wrote:Tom Heaton

Interesting call, but he's 31 in March of this year, so he's only got the same potential longevity as Bravo, which is a little less than desirable. Don't know how much he would cost as he just signed a new four year contract with Burnley last summer.

Moreover, although he's put in a fair number of good performances for them this season, he's playing in a side which, more often than not, 'parks the bus' in order to try and amass enough survival points to stay in the PL.

On that basis, he always has plenty of cover in front of him whereas, if he signed for us, his defensive screen, by its very nature, would be a lot more sparse. Whether, or not, he would cope with that is anyone's guess.

A lot of pluses and minuses, but an interesting call nonetheless.

He is a rag. Therefore we shouldn't sign him if there are other options

The biggest minus of all; thanks for the reminder NB.

If push came to shove, I'd be happy with Caballero as our No 1 for a couple of seasons, whilst preparing Gunn for him to be able to take the reins when he's deemed to be ready.

Mikhail Chigorin wrote:

phips wrote:Tom Heaton

Interesting call, but he's 31 in March of this year, so he's only got the same potential longevity as Bravo, which is a little less than desirable. Don't know how much he would cost as he just signed a new four year contract with Burnley last summer.

Moreover, although he's put in a fair number of good performances for them this season, he's playing in a side which, more often than not, 'parks the bus' in order to try and amass enough survival points to stay in the PL.

On that basis, he always has plenty of cover in front of him whereas, if he signed for us, his defensive screen, by its very nature, would be a lot more sparse. Whether, or not, he would cope with that is anyone's guess.

A lot of pluses and minuses, but an interesting call nonetheless.

whoa, no idea he was that old. doesnt look it imo.
but good analysis.

still though, 31 isn't that old for a keeper. Cech is 34 and he is still great. i do see your point though.

At this rate we are better of giving Yaya or Stones the goalkeeping jersey.

At the moment they do everything better than what Bravo does, he is simply not a goalkeeper

we'd be better off not playing with a keeper

Yep. He's had some dodgy games prior but that was his worst. A total liability now.

By this time he should have made a worldie to get his confidence going but it just hasn't happened.

I've played in games where I was out of my depth quality wise. It felt and looked exactly like his performance today.

Bravo will start next week and will continue to start as long as Pep is here

Foreverinbluedreams wrote:I'm surprised you missed the point I was making Freshie.

I think you should go into hiding you blind cunt.

Why hasn't Gunn been packed off on loan for a season to play some proper big boy football. Now way he can be thrown in next year. No doubt we will buy yet another keeper in the summer.

Sister of fu wrote:Why hasn't Gunn been packed off on loan for a season to play some proper big boy football. Now way he can be thrown in next year. No doubt we will buy yet another keeper in the summer.

Have to say I am confused by that one. I think Gunn is the business and should have been loaned out as Joe was to Shrewsbury. He is getting a few games now for the U23's and was MotM on Friday.

Cannot see why Pep is persevering with Bravo now. If he isn't settling in Manchester it may well be showing on the pitch. Some of the goals it's hard to fault him for but top keepers make top saves and he isn't making any at all.

Bravo is making Mignolet look good..and thats a tough thing to do

Our basic fundamental expectations of a Goalkeeper differ greatly to that of Pep.

In Pep World a goalkeeper ability with his feet, is more important than his ability with both his hands.

This is because Pep expects his sides to out score the opposition every game. They score 4, we score 5.That was how it is supposed to work. It might explain Pep inability to get his side doing the basics in defending. At Barcelona, Bayern, he had players much superior to that of City.

He thinks the blue print at Barcelona, Bayern, will work at City.

We don’t have a plethora of players good with the Ball at their feet. We don’t even have defenders who can defend properly.

So now our Keeper who was brought in primarily for his ability to pass, rather than his ability to save looks complete Dog Shit, as do our defenders who cant defend..

Replacing Bravo

Is essential to rescuing our season. End of. If he remains, we will not only end the season potless but we run the very real possibility of ending outside of the top four and CL qualification.

carl_feedthegoat wrote:

Foreverinbluedreams wrote:I'm surprised you missed the point I was making Freshie.

I think you should go into hiding you blind cunt.

Why? For having a different opinion to yours?

Keep giving opposition point blank chances and they're going to score.

Foreverinbluedreams wrote:

carl_feedthegoat wrote:

Foreverinbluedreams wrote:I'm surprised you missed the point I was making Freshie.

I think you should go into hiding you blind cunt.

Why? For having a different opinion to yours?

Keep giving opposition point blank chances and they're going to score.

I think you have a different opinion to 50,000 fans !! and if you think all the goals this muppet has conceded are point blank , then there's no fucking pointing mentioning this point to you anymore.

Douglas Higginbottom wrote:

Sister of fu wrote:Why hasn't Gunn been packed off on loan for a season to play some proper big boy football. Now way he can be thrown in next year. No doubt we will buy yet another keeper in the summer.

Have to say I am confused by that one. I think Gunn is the business and should have been loaned out as Joe was to Shrewsbury. He is getting a few games now for the U23's and was MotM on Friday.

Cannot see why Pep is persevering with Bravo now. If he isn't settling in Manchester it may well be showing on the pitch. Some of the goals it's hard to fault him for but top keepers make top saves and he isn't making any at all.

Bravo looks done to me. He has to be replaced next week for his sake and that of the team. We concede some piss poor goals and he says nothing.

Why isn't he going berserk at some of our back line. If I played in front of a back line that was making me look as inept as this one is doing I would be going mental. You don't get a peep out of him.