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Re: ****City v Burnley Official Match Thread****

Postby Beefymcfc » Mon Jan 02, 2017 8:12 pm

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Just checked his Instagram and it's on there.
That's brilliant! Well fuckin played Sags!

And, well done Phips.
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Re: ****City v Burnley Official Match Thread****

Postby Green & Blue » Mon Jan 02, 2017 8:28 pm

Good show of character today, they had to role up the sleeves for that one. Still pretty pissed with Fernandinho banned again, can hardly believe it. Bravo as bad as ever.

Not all bad with a return of 12 points from last 5 games.

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Re: ****City v Burnley Official Match Thread****

Postby Blue Since 76 » Mon Jan 02, 2017 8:34 pm

zuricity wrote:
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Beefymcfc wrote:They've not even shown when the ball went over. It looked like it went in when he took it out of Bravo's hands, yet we still don't know!


This is the first time this happens with the hawk eye replay.

Edit: showed it now. why so late?


There is no need to show anything . If the ball crosses the line it sends a signal to the ref. The ref is so bad that he can't even confirm this.

There is no need for discussion. So the fact that the ref had to consult the linesman is worrying to me.

You wonder who he was consulting?


Yep because if it had crossed the line he would say so and not consult the linesman.


It clearly crossed the line and he pointed to his watch, where I assume the alert comes, before speaking to the linesman. I suspect the discussion was about which of the three attempts crossed the line. I assume he got two alerts, including the final one from Gray and the discussion would be about which, if any, was a foul.

The first attempt didn't cross the line, the second did and the third did, bit was headed out of Bravo's hands. So perfectly good goal and I'm not sure why the ref checking it was OK is a problem
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Re: ****City v Burnley Official Match Thread****

Postby Foreverinbluedreams » Mon Jan 02, 2017 8:39 pm

Goal should've been disallowed, Bravo was fouled at the first attempt.

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Re: ****City v Burnley Official Match Thread****

Postby iwasthere2012 » Mon Jan 02, 2017 8:47 pm

Foreverinbluedreams wrote:Goal should've been disallowed, Bravo was fouled at the first attempt.

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Possibly. I know I thought so st first, but in all honesty, it was a piss poor attempt to punch the ball.

The guy is small to start with but he never gets off the ground when he jumps. His timing is always way off.

I think this is the most disappointing part of his appointment. He is not imposing enough. He just looks small in between the sticks.

Centre forwards know they can bully him and he doesn't particularly get down too quickly either for any shots.

Yes he can play football but I think he needs to be a bit more intimidating as a keeper.

And no. I don't think Hart is the answer.
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Re: ****City v Burnley Official Match Thread****

Postby Foreverinbluedreams » Mon Jan 02, 2017 8:56 pm

iwasthere2012 wrote:
Foreverinbluedreams wrote:Goal should've been disallowed, Bravo was fouled at the first attempt.

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Possibly. I know I thought so st first, but in all honesty, it was a piss poor attempt to punch the ball.

The guy is small to start with but he never gets off the ground when he jumps. His timing is always way off.

I think this is the most disappointing part of his appointment. He is not imposing enough. He just looks small in between the sticks.

Centre forwards know they can bully him and he doesn't particularly get down too quickly either for any shots.

Yes he can play football but I think he needs to be a bit more intimidating as a keeper.

And no. I don't think Hart is the answer.


If he's fouled by Vokes then how is it a piss poor attempt, a bloke that size throwing his elbow across your chest is going to knock any keeper off balance whilst jumping.

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Re: ****City v Burnley Official Match Thread****

Postby Beefymcfc » Mon Jan 02, 2017 8:57 pm

iwasthere2012 wrote:
Foreverinbluedreams wrote:Goal should've been disallowed, Bravo was fouled at the first attempt.

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Possibly. I know I thought so st first, but in all honesty, it was a piss poor attempt to punch the ball.

The guy is small to start with but he never gets off the ground when he jumps. His timing is always way off.

I think this is the most disappointing part of his appointment. He is not imposing enough. He just looks small in between the sticks.

Centre forwards know they can bully him and he doesn't particularly get down too quickly either for any shots.

Yes he can play football but I think he needs to be a bit more intimidating as a keeper.

And no. I don't think Hart is the answer.

So, was it a foul on Bravo, or not? If it's a foul what more has to be said.
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Re: ****City v Burnley Official Match Thread****

Postby london blue 2 » Mon Jan 02, 2017 8:58 pm

Bravo is a clown. Won't make excuses for him...
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Re: ****City v Burnley Official Match Thread****

Postby PrezIke » Mon Jan 02, 2017 9:03 pm

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london blue 2 wrote:Sky pretending they don't know why pep would be furious. Bullshit they don't. Awful reffing.


Looking at it again, was a clear foul on Bravo. Not great (or even good) keeping by him, but also a very very clear foul. Can understand Pep's anger 200%.

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I think the problem is that the VERY clear foul on Bravo when he had the ball in his hands was during the 3rd effort, but it passed the line on the 2nd effort. Unless you are saying he was fouled during the 1st effort, where you can see the Burnely player swing his arm towards Bravo/the ball.
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Re: ****City v Burnley Official Match Thread****

Postby Mikhail Chigorin » Mon Jan 02, 2017 9:04 pm

iwasthere2012 wrote:
Foreverinbluedreams wrote:Goal should've been disallowed, Bravo was fouled at the first attempt.

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Possibly. I know I thought so st first, but in all honesty, it was a piss poor attempt to punch the ball.

The guy is small to start with but he never gets off the ground when he jumps. His timing is always way off.

I think this is the most disappointing part of his appointment. He is not imposing enough. He just looks small in between the sticks.

Centre forwards know they can bully him and he doesn't particularly get down too quickly either for any shots.

Yes he can play football but I think he needs to be a bit more intimidating as a keeper.

And no. I don't think Hart is the answer.


Can he play at full back ??

He might make a better fist (pun intended) of that, than he does in the nets........he certainly couldn't do any worse.
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Re: ****City v Burnley Official Match Thread****

Postby Beefymcfc » Mon Jan 02, 2017 9:05 pm

london blue 2 wrote:Bravo is a clown. Won't make excuses for him...

Do regulations take 'Being a clown' into effect?

I understand why we are treated differently now.
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Re: ****City v Burnley Official Match Thread****

Postby PrezIke » Mon Jan 02, 2017 9:05 pm

Pep raises questions about refereeing in England vs. everywhere else, with regards to the team that dominates possession seeming to get calls against them (Is that what he was saying?) and also saying Bravo was fouled. I think he was mocking the idea that it was Bravo's fault, but I can't quite tell. He was well pissed off in that interview.
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Re: ****City v Burnley Official Match Thread****

Postby iwasthere2012 » Mon Jan 02, 2017 9:08 pm

Beefymcfc wrote:
iwasthere2012 wrote:
Foreverinbluedreams wrote:Goal should've been disallowed, Bravo was fouled at the first attempt.

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Possibly. I know I thought so st first, but in all honesty, it was a piss poor attempt to punch the ball.

The guy is small to start with but he never gets off the ground when he jumps. His timing is always way off.

I think this is the most disappointing part of his appointment. He is not imposing enough. He just looks small in between the sticks.

Centre forwards know they can bully him and he doesn't particularly get down too quickly either for any shots.

Yes he can play football but I think he needs to be a bit more intimidating as a keeper.

And no. I don't think Hart is the answer.

So, was it a foul on Bravo, or not? If it's a foul what more has to be said.

Not sure Beefy. I still think it is a very weak jump. He wasn't jumped into.
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Re: ****City v Burnley Official Match Thread****

Postby Beefymcfc » Mon Jan 02, 2017 9:11 pm

PrezIke wrote:Pep raises questions about refereeing in England vs. everywhere else, with regards to the team that dominates possession seeming to get calls against them (is that what he was saying) and also saying Bravo was fouled. I think he was mocking the idea that it was Bravo's fault, but I can't quite tell. He was well pissed off in that interview.

Still not seen it properly, from a possible foul to it crossing the line. When it's fully transparent, not taking 5 minutes to clear it up, there's always going to be questions. I watch tennis and it takes less than 5 seconds to show a call, the technology is so accepted, but why does it take a much richer game to take a few minutes unless it's part of the editorial?

It fucking stinks.
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Re: ****City v Burnley Official Match Thread****

Postby Mase » Mon Jan 02, 2017 9:31 pm

Sagna has now taken the caption off his Instagram picture. Fuckin shame. If someone at the club has told him to change it they can go fuck themselves.
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Re: ****City v Burnley Official Match Thread****

Postby Beefymcfc » Mon Jan 02, 2017 9:35 pm

Mase wrote:Sagna has now taken the caption off his Instagram picture. Fuckin shame. If someone at the club has told him to change it they can go fuck themselves.

Good to see but think Sagna was making a point, and succeeded. It will be plastered all over Sky tomorrow, bringing our club into discon-fuckingfuckyou-tent.
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Re: ****City v Burnley Official Match Thread****

Postby Peter Doherty (AGAIG) » Mon Jan 02, 2017 9:50 pm

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zuricity wrote:
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PeterParker wrote:There is no need to show anything . If the ball crosses the line it sends a signal to the ref. The ref is so bad that he can't even confirm this.

There is no need for discussion. So the fact that the ref had to consult the linesman is worrying to me.

You wonder who he was consulting?


Yep because if it had crossed the line he would say so and not consult the linesman.


It clearly crossed the line and he pointed to his watch, where I assume the alert comes, before speaking to the linesman. I suspect the discussion was about which of the three attempts crossed the line. I assume he got two alerts, including the final one from Gray and the discussion would be about which, if any, was a foul.

The first attempt didn't cross the line, the second did and the third did, bit was headed out of Bravo's hands. So perfectly good goal and I'm not sure why the ref checking it was OK is a problem

His discussion with the linesman was about Sagna kicking one of their forwards after the goal had been scored and he was trying to recover the ball, for which he booked said miscreant as a result.
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Re: ****City v Burnley Official Match Thread****

Postby phips » Mon Jan 02, 2017 9:57 pm

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Just checked his Instagram and it's on there.
That's brilliant! Well fuckin played Sags!

not surprised. he was irate with Mason after the Burnley goal
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Re: ****City v Burnley Official Match Thread****

Postby phips » Mon Jan 02, 2017 10:01 pm

PrezIke wrote:and also saying Bravo was fouled. I think he was mocking the idea that it was Bravo's fault, but I can't quite tell. He was well pissed off in that interview.

he was saying it was a foul on Bravo, not that it was his fault. i thought the same thing as you and had to rewind it. the interviewer did as well which is why he followed up with "it was his fault?". im pretty sure Pep was saying something like "it was his foul", meaning someone fouled him. but Pep's accent and ESL made it hard to understand. its the only logical thing given his comments about the different refereeing decisions in the PL that followed.
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Re: ****City v Burnley Official Match Thread****

Postby Peter Doherty (AGAIG) » Mon Jan 02, 2017 10:08 pm

If I was Guardiola I'd just come out and say we have imported some of the best managers/players in the world and that we should do this with the referees to make the game the best it can be. No direct criticism but he gets his point over. I'm at the end of my tether with it.
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