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Holistic

PostPosted: Sat Dec 10, 2016 7:47 pm
by nottsblue
Not heard about our "Holistic" approach for a little now. It was never really explained what it was.

I am wondering if this was it

Re: Holistic

PostPosted: Sat Dec 10, 2016 7:57 pm
by Hutch's Shoulder
nottsblue wrote:Not heard about our "Holistic" approach for a little now. It was never really explained what it was.

I am wondering if this was it


Yes, holes in the defence

Re: Holistic

PostPosted: Sat Dec 10, 2016 7:58 pm
by MilnersJaw
I think it means keep buying players who can't defend. John stones has been average at best since his purchase. I fully expect more shit defenders in January.

Re: Holistic

PostPosted: Sat Dec 10, 2016 8:00 pm
by ayrshireblue
I think i'd prefer a "Bolistic" approach where anyone making the sort of mistakes that Bravo, Stones, Kolarov, Navas and numerous others do on a regular approach get shot...in the head.

Re: Holistic

PostPosted: Sat Dec 10, 2016 8:03 pm
by failsworthblue
This is our biggest test since the takeover.

Our owners wanted Pep from day one.

Mancini has been our best Manager for years and looking at it now we should have never got rid.

It will take time for Pep , we might not make top 4 this year.

Next Season is the big one for me , but I am sure all those with the rabid dog media will be loving this.

Re: Holistic

PostPosted: Sat Dec 10, 2016 8:06 pm
by Mase
failsworthblue wrote:Mancini has been our best Manager for years and looking at it now we should have never got rid.


This. People said the players turned their back on him in the end. The ones that did aren't here anymore. It was a huge mistake getting rid in my opinion. He could have built something fantastic.

Re: Holistic

PostPosted: Sat Dec 10, 2016 9:12 pm
by Spurge
failsworthblue wrote:This is our biggest test since the takeover.

Our owners wanted Pep from day one.

Mancini has been our best Manager for years and looking at it now we should have never got rid.

It will take time for Pep , we might not make top 4 this year.

Next Season is the big one for me , but I am sure all those with the rabid dog media will be loving this.


Did you realise that pellers won 3 trophies in 3 seasons and qualified for the knockout stages in the champs league (something Roberto didn't) in each season including s semi final. Yes Mancini brought us success but thought worth jogging what seems to be a lapse in your recent memory.

Re: Holistic

PostPosted: Sat Dec 10, 2016 9:19 pm
by zuricity
Spurge wrote:
failsworthblue wrote:This is our biggest test since the takeover.

Our owners wanted Pep from day one.

Mancini has been our best Manager for years and looking at it now we should have never got rid.

It will take time for Pep , we might not make top 4 this year.

Next Season is the big one for me , but I am sure all those with the rabid dog media will be loving this.


Did you realise that pellers won 3 trophies in 3 seasons and qualified for the knockout stages in the champs league (something Roberto didn't) in each season including s semi final. Yes Mancini brought us success but thought worth jogging what seems to be a lapse in your recent memory.



Stop it ! He had Robertos team.

Did you notice that Roberto would surprise us with different suits and haircuts ? not just this 'shave my head' crap because my hairline is receding ?

Re: Holistic

PostPosted: Sat Dec 10, 2016 9:40 pm
by Spurge
zuricity wrote:
Spurge wrote:
failsworthblue wrote:This is our biggest test since the takeover.

Our owners wanted Pep from day one.

Mancini has been our best Manager for years and looking at it now we should have never got rid.

It will take time for Pep , we might not make top 4 this year.

Next Season is the big one for me , but I am sure all those with the rabid dog media will be loving this.


Did you realise that pellers won 3 trophies in 3 seasons and qualified for the knockout stages in the champs league (something Roberto didn't) in each season including s semi final. Yes Mancini brought us success but thought worth jogging what seems to be a lapse in your recent memory.



Stop it ! He had Robertos team.

Did you notice that Roberto would surprise us with different suits and haircuts ? not just this 'shave my head' crap because my hairline is receding ?


I was a big Mancini fan but don't give me that shit. Pellers reignited city he gave edin and nasri the confidence to express themselves in a way they hadn't for a long time, he he lost tevez and ballo and brought in negredo and navas and revitalized the squad, the net result being that he won the league and the league cup in his first season.

Re: Holistic

PostPosted: Sat Dec 10, 2016 9:46 pm
by johnny crossan
Judging from what he said post-match on the BBC, Pep thinks it is a matter of player 'mentality' rather than their inability to play the way he wants.

Poppycock. He is committed to one system (with enigmatic variations) that just isn't working against most teams in the Prem for staggeringly obvious reasons.

Re: Holistic

PostPosted: Sat Dec 10, 2016 9:47 pm
by zuricity
Spurge wrote:
zuricity wrote:
Spurge wrote:
failsworthblue wrote:This is our biggest test since the takeover.

Our owners wanted Pep from day one.

Mancini has been our best Manager for years and looking at it now we should have never got rid.

It will take time for Pep , we might not make top 4 this year.

Next Season is the big one for me , but I am sure all those with the rabid dog media will be loving this.


Did you realise that pellers won 3 trophies in 3 seasons and qualified for the knockout stages in the champs league (something Roberto didn't) in each season including s semi final. Yes Mancini brought us success but thought worth jogging what seems to be a lapse in your recent memory.



Stop it ! He had Robertos team.

Did you notice that Roberto would surprise us with different suits and haircuts ? not just this 'shave my head' crap because my hairline is receding ?


I was a big Mancini fan but don't give me that shit. Pellers reignited city he gave edin and nasri the confidence to express themselves in a way they hadn't for a long time, he he lost tevez and ballo and brought in negredo and navas and revitalized the squad, the net result being that he won the league and the league cup in his first season.


Again stop !

Edin and Samir already had it

Edin in particular already had it from his Bundesliga days.

All squads are revitalised when a new manager comes in .

Re: Holistic

PostPosted: Sat Dec 10, 2016 9:50 pm
by johnny crossan
zuricity wrote:
Spurge wrote:
zuricity wrote:
Spurge wrote:
failsworthblue wrote:This is our biggest test since the takeover.

Our owners wanted Pep from day one.

Mancini has been our best Manager for years and looking at it now we should have never got rid.

It will take time for Pep , we might not make top 4 this year.

Next Season is the big one for me , but I am sure all those with the rabid dog media will be loving this.


Did you realise that pellers won 3 trophies in 3 seasons and qualified for the knockout stages in the champs league (something Roberto didn't) in each season including s semi final. Yes Mancini brought us success but thought worth jogging what seems to be a lapse in your recent memory.



Stop it ! He had Robertos team.

Did you notice that Roberto would surprise us with different suits and haircuts ? not just this 'shave my head' crap because my hairline is receding ?


I was a big Mancini fan but don't give me that shit. Pellers reignited city he gave edin and nasri the confidence to express themselves in a way they hadn't for a long time, he he lost tevez and ballo and brought in negredo and navas and revitalized the squad, the net result being that he won the league and the league cup in his first season.


Again stop !

Edin and Samir already had it

Edin in particular already had it from his Bundesliga days.

All squads are revitalised when a new manager comes in .
I do wish you'd stop posting during the few seconds in which I am polishing my pearls.

Re: Holistic

PostPosted: Sat Dec 10, 2016 9:55 pm
by Spurge
zuricity wrote:
Spurge wrote:
zuricity wrote:
Spurge wrote:
failsworthblue wrote:This is our biggest test since the takeover.

Our owners wanted Pep from day one.

Mancini has been our best Manager for years and looking at it now we should have never got rid.

It will take time for Pep , we might not make top 4 this year.

Next Season is the big one for me , but I am sure all those with the rabid dog media will be loving this.


Did you realise that pellers won 3 trophies in 3 seasons and qualified for the knockout stages in the champs league (something Roberto didn't) in each season including s semi final. Yes Mancini brought us success but thought worth jogging what seems to be a lapse in your recent memory.



Stop it ! He had Robertos team.

Did you notice that Roberto would surprise us with different suits and haircuts ? not just this 'shave my head' crap because my hairline is receding ?


I was a big Mancini fan but don't give me that shit. Pellers reignited city he gave edin and nasri the confidence to express themselves in a way they hadn't for a long time, he he lost tevez and ballo and brought in negredo and navas and revitalized the squad, the net result being that he won the league and the league cup in his first season.


Again stop !

Edin and Samir already had it

Edin in particular already had it from his Bundesliga days.

All squads are revitalised when a new manager comes in .


They had it but had lost their way the new manager put them back on track, I've said it you've acknowledged it but still want to credit the previous manager for that - strange. You've also chosen to ignore the other changes i referred to which had a significant impact on the season but nevermind.

Re: Holistic

PostPosted: Sat Dec 10, 2016 9:55 pm
by zuricity
Spurge wrote:
zuricity wrote:
Spurge wrote:
failsworthblue wrote:This is our biggest test since the takeover.

Our owners wanted Pep from day one.

Mancini has been our best Manager for years and looking at it now we should have never got rid.

It will take time for Pep , we might not make top 4 this year.

Next Season is the big one for me , but I am sure all those with the rabid dog media will be loving this.


Did you realise that pellers won 3 trophies in 3 seasons and qualified for the knockout stages in the champs league (something Roberto didn't) in each season including s semi final. Yes Mancini brought us success but thought worth jogging what seems to be a lapse in your recent memory.



Stop it ! He had Robertos team.

Did you notice that Roberto would surprise us with different suits and haircuts ? not just this 'shave my head' crap because my hairline is receding ?


I was a big Mancini fan but don't give me that shit. Pellers reignited city he gave edin and nasri the confidence to express themselves in a way they hadn't for a long time, he he lost tevez and ballo and brought in negredo and navas and revitalized the squad, the net result being that he won the league and the league cup in his first season.


Again stop !

Edin and Samir already had it

Edin in particular already had it from his Bundesliga days.

All squads are revitalised when a new manager comes in .

Re: Holistic

PostPosted: Sat Dec 10, 2016 10:06 pm
by Niall Quinns Discopants
More like holy shitic approach.

Re: Holistic

PostPosted: Sun Dec 11, 2016 12:30 am
by Hazy2
Gutted and saw it coming, no,pain no gain, this season will be ups and downs smile boys it will be worth it.

Re: Holistic

PostPosted: Sun Dec 11, 2016 2:36 am
by freshie
Hazy2 wrote:Gutted and saw it coming, no,pain no gain, this season will be ups and downs smile boys it will be worth it.


Exactly. It's all about the long game. Bigger picture boys - stop whining

Re: Holistic

PostPosted: Sun Dec 11, 2016 6:23 am
by Hazy2
freshie wrote:
Hazy2 wrote:Gutted and saw it coming, no,pain no gain, this season will be ups and downs smile boys it will be worth it.


Exactly. It's all about the long game. Bigger picture boys - stop whining

Haha see what you did there. We are in transition.

Re: Holistic

PostPosted: Sun Dec 11, 2016 12:58 pm
by MilnersJaw
johnny crossan wrote:Judging from what he said post-match on the BBC, Pep thinks it is a matter of player 'mentality' rather than their inability to play the way he wants.

Poppycock. He is committed to one system (with enigmatic variations) that just isn't working against most teams in the Prem for staggeringly obvious reasons.


system or not. You can't win league and even games with a shit defence.

Re: Holistic

PostPosted: Sun Dec 11, 2016 1:00 pm
by I Just Blue Myself
Holistic? Is that a new Serbian centre back we're linked with?