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Fidel Castro wrote:Apart from run down blind alleys and trying to nutmeg people?

ruralblue wrote:

Mase wrote:I think this thread has gone way over some peoples head.

It worked with Yaya so let folks have a rip!

phips wrote:

Fidel Castro wrote:Apart from run down blind alleys and trying to nutmeg people?

so far? thats about it

john@staustell wrote:I wonder do we have to look for someone to pick on? Having seen the likes of Gerry Creaney, Barry Conlan and Jo, I would've thought anyone today is a God

Dimples wrote:He is in the same place now that Sterling was last season.
This guy has huge potential.

PrezIke wrote:Get slagged off by our fans already?

20 years old, not speaking very good English arriving, injured as soon as he started training, following a hefty transfer fee, and experienced some challenges getting his chances when the competition is fairly stiff...

Remember Raheem...

Needs more time to adapt and learn. Not worried by a long shot at this point. There have been glimpses of what he can offer.

nottsblue wrote:

Mikhail Chigorin wrote:

nottsblue wrote:Jury is still out. However, there are plenty of mitigating circumstances. Not unlike Gundogan, he is a very young lad in a new country, new club, team mates, manager and style of play, not had a pre season or indeed even a run of games in the side.

The games he has played he has shown glimpses of what he can do and is about. He looked lost in the League cup game a bit but that may be down the team selection. He looked immense last season and i see no reason why that form wont return in due course.

Two weeks ago people were on Gundogans case, not any longer. I say give the boy a decent fist of it before writing him off. That said, Roberts at Celtic is proof that if you are good enough you are old enough. Age is only an excuse for so long.

Looks like he needs to beef up a little as well. Appears a little lightweight for the rigours of the PL. This can soon be solved

A fair-minded, objective post NB.

He just needs a bit more time and then any concerns about him will dissipate.

With regard to him appearing to be a little "lightweight for the rigours of the PL" however, didn't a few people say this about David Silva when he first signed for us ??

They did, and he learned to toughen up quick. Look at him the tackle now, quite feverish. I dare say he put a bit more muscle on his chest and shoulders. When footballers take off their shirts their bodies are very different to that of players even a decade ago. Some would look quite tasty as middleweights. Defenders as well are much stronger now and thus attackers need to have it their armoury. Sterling is as good example as any, he is a tough little fucker and can dish it out when necessary.

dazby wrote:Did anyone else think him being the first sub on Saturday was odd? I thought he was just working his way into the game and was making a real impact.

john@staustell wrote:I wonder do we have to look for someone to pick on? Having seen the likes of Gerry Creaney, Barry Conlan and Jo, I would've thought anyone today is a God

patrickblue wrote:

john@staustell wrote:I wonder do we have to look for someone to pick on? Having seen the likes of Gerry Creaney, Barry Conlan and Jo, I would've thought anyone today is a God

Not quite, but we do have two of his sons.

Original Dub wrote:He sliced through the Chelsea defence more and more as the game went on and it was a pity he was withdrawn, but as FIBJ said, it was deemed necessary to deal with Willian (didn't work out too well that one...)

He has serious turn of pace and that game will have given him a lot more confidence. I think we might have an incredible player on our hands.

If we can get both him and Raheem on to a consistent level and capable of playing in the same team, we'll have lots of fun watching them rip teams to bits.