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Re: Basic Errors
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Thu Oct 20, 2016 11:43 am
by Mikhail Chigorin
Original Dub wrote:We've been desperately unlucky with individual errors.
The only game so far this season that I feel we were genuinely outplayed was Spurs.
That's not a bad foundation to build at all and last night was the first time we matched Barca. The commentators kept saying how bad Barca were, yet when we underperform it's always about how amazing the other team is playing. The truth is in the middle, we made Barca look worse because we didn't allow them space.
Two evenly matched teams, but one having individual errors you're not likely to see in three more seasons, let alone the rest of this one.
Obviously, we need to improve in certain positions in order to properly enforce Pep's system, as well as it taking time for said system to become the norm. But we all knew that.
Didn't we?
Actually, don't answer that... it's pretty clear some fucking spoiled whingers expected more of a gap at the top of the league and to be ahead of Barca in the champions league group while this was going on.
Cunts.
That's a nicely balanced and objective assessment OD; a good post all round.
Well done to you
Re: Basic Errors
Posted:
Thu Oct 20, 2016 6:33 pm
by freshie
Mase wrote:Dunnylad wrote:Mase wrote:Just to confirm, Barca were terrible last night and they still dicked us 4-0!!
I didn't see any of the first half but what I saw of the second half wouldn't support that statement and they were helped by a catalogue of errors - we deserved that many as we made that many and more mistakes
You don't think Barca we're terrible compared to the usual Barca?
You don't think that had anything to do with the way we played? Even some of the pundits said we played well until Bravo got sent off yet our own fans can't give us any credit. Ridiculous
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Re: Basic Errors
Posted:
Thu Oct 20, 2016 6:37 pm
by everyonehatesus
Tactics seemed spot on to me, then brain far bravo stepped up to fuck us over. We were matching them and I couldn't believe even after going down to 10 men that we didn't score. I don't see any reason why we can't turn them over at ours, we just need all the players to bloody focus for 90 minutes.
Re: Basic Errors
Posted:
Thu Oct 20, 2016 7:03 pm
by Mase
freshie wrote:Mase wrote:Dunnylad wrote:Mase wrote:Just to confirm, Barca were terrible last night and they still dicked us 4-0!!
I didn't see any of the first half but what I saw of the second half wouldn't support that statement and they were helped by a catalogue of errors - we deserved that many as we made that many and more mistakes
You don't think Barca we're terrible compared to the usual Barca?
You don't think that had anything to do with the way we played? Even some of the pundits said we played well until Bravo got sent off yet our own fans can't give us any credit. Ridiculous
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So we shouldn't listen to the pundits when they're "talking shit about us and don't know what they're talking about" but now we should?
Fickle.
Re: Basic Errors
Posted:
Thu Oct 20, 2016 7:27 pm
by nottsblue
everyonehatesus wrote:Tactics seemed spot on to me, then brain far bravo stepped up to fuck us over. We were matching them and I couldn't believe even after going down to 10 men that we didn't score. I don't see any reason why we can't turn them over at ours, we just need all the players to bloody focus for 90 minutes.
Yep
Re: Basic Errors
Posted:
Thu Oct 20, 2016 7:47 pm
by freshie
Mase wrote:freshie wrote:Mase wrote:Dunnylad wrote:Mase wrote:Just to confirm, Barca were terrible last night and they still dicked us 4-0!!
I didn't see any of the first half but what I saw of the second half wouldn't support that statement and they were helped by a catalogue of errors - we deserved that many as we made that many and more mistakes
You don't think Barca we're terrible compared to the usual Barca?
You don't think that had anything to do with the way we played? Even some of the pundits said we played well until Bravo got sent off yet our own fans can't give us any credit. Ridiculous
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So we shouldn't listen to the pundits when they're "talking shit about us and don't know what they're talking about" but now we should?
Fickle.
Fickle? For supporting my team? Haha you joker
Re: Basic Errors
Posted:
Thu Oct 20, 2016 8:13 pm
by Mase
Yeh definitely thats 100% why I suggested that you're fickle. I wasn't clear in my post.
Obviously.
Re: Basic Errors
Posted:
Thu Oct 20, 2016 9:15 pm
by freshie
Mase wrote:Yeh definitely thats 100% why I suggested that you're fickle. I wasn't clear in my post.
Obviously.
I think you're missing the point I was making which is that even those who usually can't wait to have a go at us admitted that we played well until the red card. Pity our own fans can't see it
But then your favourite player is kolarov. Enough said
Re: Basic Errors
Posted:
Thu Oct 20, 2016 9:19 pm
by Mase
freshie wrote:Mase wrote:Yeh definitely thats 100% why I suggested that you're fickle. I wasn't clear in my post.
Obviously.
I think you're missing the point I was making which is that even those who usually can't wait to have a go at us admitted that we played well until the red card. Pity our own fans can't see it
But then your favourite player is kolarov. Enough said
Favourite player? I'm not 12 mate haha!
Re: Basic Errors
Posted:
Thu Oct 20, 2016 9:27 pm
by sheblue
nottsblue wrote:everyonehatesus wrote:Tactics seemed spot on to me, then brain far bravo stepped up to fuck us over. We were matching them and I couldn't believe even after going down to 10 men that we didn't score. I don't see any reason why we can't turn them over at ours, we just need all the players to bloody focus for 90 minutes.
Yep
It's wasn't the tactics, it was the execution of them.
Anyway moving on.
Re: Basic Errors
Posted:
Fri Oct 21, 2016 10:02 pm
by getdressedmctavish
Well, I am simply loving what I'm seeing all over the pitch and I'm totally at one with what Pep seems to want, including Bravo's general combination of usually ace distribution and decent saving. Lets face it, if he becomes a liability we can sell him at a relatively small loss. Pep wont suffer a major fuck up by him . every few games any more than we will. But surely people can see the massive improvement in team play and individual improvements. What Pep can't change over night is the lack of physical resilience in the team or players past their sell by date. But he will sort that out gradually as and when the right players become available. In football, shit happens. It is what makes it so enjoyable, even when you are suffering it.. But I do believe the Guardiola revolution will bring us the invincible attractive team our financial muscle merits, and no one can possibly have thought that under the previous incumbent.IMO
Re: Basic Errors
Posted:
Fri Oct 21, 2016 10:07 pm
by edge275
getdressedmctavish wrote:Well, I am simply loving what I'm seeing all over the pitch and I'm totally at one with what Pep seems to want, including Bravo's general combination of usually ace distribution and decent saving. Lets face it, if he becomes a liability we can sell him at a relatively small loss. Pep wont suffer a major fuck up by him . every few games any more than we will. But surely people can see the massive improvement in team play and individual improvements. What Pep can't change over night is the lack of physical resilience in the team or players past their sell by date. But he will sort that out gradually as and when the right players become available. In football, shit happens. It is what makes it so enjoyable, even when you are suffering it.. But I do believe the Guardiola revolution will bring us the invincible attractive team our financial muscle merits, and no one can possibly have thought that under the previous incumbent.IMO
Despite the lack of paragraphs, a very good post!
Re: Basic Errors
Posted:
Fri Oct 21, 2016 10:18 pm
by Niall Quinns Discopants
Wooders wrote:fuck off the sweeper keeper shite
Apparently you can't say that around here or it's "knee jerk reaction".
Re: Basic Errors
Posted:
Fri Oct 21, 2016 10:36 pm
by PrezIke
Dunnylad wrote:Mase wrote:Just to confirm, Barca were terrible last night and they still dicked us 4-0!!
I didn't see any of the first half but what I saw of the second half wouldn't support that statement and they were helped by a catalogue of errors - we deserved that many as we made that many and more mistakes
Before their first goal we were well in the game. It seemed to demoralise us, if you ask me, given how we gave it away. Game was fairly evenly balanced until Fernandinho slipped, although they looked slightly more dangerous in the final third.
Re: Basic Errors
Posted:
Sat Oct 22, 2016 12:31 am
by Original Dub
Great to see old whingers piping up
Re: Basic Errors
Posted:
Sat Oct 22, 2016 9:08 am
by Foreverinbluedreams
PrezIke wrote:Dunnylad wrote:Mase wrote:Just to confirm, Barca were terrible last night and they still dicked us 4-0!!
I didn't see any of the first half but what I saw of the second half wouldn't support that statement and they were helped by a catalogue of errors - we deserved that many as we made that many and more mistakes
Before their first goal we were well in the game. It seemed to demoralise us, if you ask me, given how we gave it away. Game was fairly evenly balanced until Fernandinho slipped, although they looked slightly more dangerous in the final third.
For about 10-15 minutes, we finished the half the stronger team.
Re: Basic Errors
Posted:
Sat Oct 22, 2016 9:10 am
by Foreverinbluedreams
Niall Quinns Discopants wrote:Wooders wrote:fuck off the sweeper keeper shite
Apparently you can't say that around here or it's "knee jerk reaction".
Of course it's knee jerk, we're only a fifth of the way through our first season under this new style.
Re: Basic Errors
Posted:
Sat Oct 22, 2016 9:31 am
by Niall Quinns Discopants
Foreverinbluedreams wrote:Niall Quinns Discopants wrote:Wooders wrote:fuck off the sweeper keeper shite
Apparently you can't say that around here or it's "knee jerk reaction".
Of course it's knee jerk, we're only a fifth of the way through our first season under this new style.
Look, Victor Valdes was mainstay in that amazing all-conquering Barcelona side yet he was fucking gash as a shot stopper. Easily the qorst player on the pitch when they played every single time. It was nice though because it gave opponents at least theiretical chance. I've seen all aorts ofmteams over the decades but that one stands out as best single team I ever saw.
Re: Basic Errors
Posted:
Sat Oct 22, 2016 9:37 am
by Nigels Tackle
Niall Quinns Discopants wrote:Foreverinbluedreams wrote:Niall Quinns Discopants wrote:Wooders wrote:fuck off the sweeper keeper shite
Apparently you can't say that around here or it's "knee jerk reaction".
Of course it's knee jerk, we're only a fifth of the way through our first season under this new style.
Look, Victor Valdes was mainstay in that amazing all-conquering Barcelona side yet he was fucking gash as a shot stopper. Easily the qorst player on the pitch when they played every single time. It was nice though because it gave opponents at least theiretical chance. I've seen all aorts ofmteams over the decades but that one stands out as best single team I ever saw.
doesn't really matter how shit your 'keeper is when you have lionel messi in your team
Re: Basic Errors
Posted:
Sat Oct 22, 2016 9:38 am
by Niall Quinns Discopants
Nigels Tackle wrote:Niall Quinns Discopants wrote:Foreverinbluedreams wrote:Niall Quinns Discopants wrote:Wooders wrote:fuck off the sweeper keeper shite
Apparently you can't say that around here or it's "knee jerk reaction".
Of course it's knee jerk, we're only a fifth of the way through our first season under this new style.
Look, Victor Valdes was mainstay in that amazing all-conquering Barcelona side yet he was fucking gash as a shot stopper. Easily the qorst player on the pitch when they played every single time. It was nice though because it gave opponents at least theiretical chance. I've seen all aorts ofmteams over the decades but that one stands out as best single team I ever saw.
doesn't really matter how shit your 'keeper is when you have lionel messi in your team
That was kind of the point mate. Unfortunately we don't have Messi,... or Xavi or Iniesta for that matter.