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During the war...

Postby Tony P » Sat Oct 01, 2016 2:04 pm

Conversation in the pub yesterday turned to football (or lack of it) during the two world wars. Does anyone know of a book or other resource with information about what happened? I'm interested in when/how the decisions were made to stop the leagues (considering war was declared in September), how many players fought, how the leagues were reconvened (same league make up in 1946 as in 1939?) and also I once read that a City team took part in a War Cup. Do we have any info about that? Was it a Dad's Army type affair?
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Re: During the war...

Postby Wonderwall » Sat Oct 01, 2016 2:34 pm

Tony P wrote:Conversation in the pub yesterday turned to football (or lack of it) during the two world wars. Does anyone know of a book or other resource with information about what happened? I'm interested in when/how the decisions were made to stop the leagues (considering war was declared in September), how many players fought, how the leagues were reconvened (same league make up in 1946 as in 1939?) and also I once read that a City team took part in a War Cup. Do we have any info about that? Was it a Dad's Army type affair?



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Re: During the war...

Postby Nickyboy » Sat Oct 01, 2016 4:48 pm

There was an exhibition about football and the war at the football museum in IBIS. Not sure if it's still there or not though.
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Re: During the war...

Postby nottsblue » Sat Oct 01, 2016 5:17 pm

Lots of friendlies with players turning out for other clubs as guests, depending on where they were listed at the time. There were regional leagues in place, nothing nationwide though. Football did carry on but to a much lesser extent due to obvious reasons.

Oh, and the swamp got bombed. Every cloud and that
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Re: During the war...

Postby patrickblue » Sat Oct 01, 2016 5:59 pm

Aldershot became the football capital of England.
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Re: During the war...

Postby Justified logic » Sun Oct 02, 2016 7:27 am

Most teams adopted a 2-2-2-2-2 formation.
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Re: During the war...

Postby johnny crossan » Sun Oct 02, 2016 7:34 am

Cost us 10 league titles, the agenda goes way back.
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Re: During the war...

Postby Justified logic » Sun Oct 02, 2016 12:34 pm

Arsenal was the media's darling.
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Re: During the war...

Postby Mase » Sun Oct 02, 2016 12:39 pm

Didn't Rosler's granddad do something?
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Re: During the war...

Postby johnny crossan » Tue Oct 04, 2016 8:44 am

Mase wrote:Didn't Rosler's granddad do something?
both sides agree not enough
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Re: During the war...

Postby Mikhail Chigorin » Fri Oct 07, 2016 1:53 pm

johnny crossan wrote:
Mase wrote:Didn't Rosler's granddad do something?
both sides agree not enough


Nice :D :D :D
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Re: During the war...

Postby BookJunior » Fri Oct 07, 2016 8:06 pm

National football museum is certainly worth a visit. Sir Tom Finney lost his best years because of the war fighting in the Royal Armoured Corps.

He was adored in Preston and rightly so. A loyal player with enormous talent, true Gentleman and a humble plumber who never lost touch with the fans.

Mike Doyle is the nearest I can think of in those terms.

We all know about Salford using Maine Road I presume.
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Re: During the war...

Postby gary james » Mon Mar 27, 2017 5:45 am

Tony P wrote:Conversation in the pub yesterday turned to football (or lack of it) during the two world wars. Does anyone know of a book or other resource with information about what happened? I'm interested in when/how the decisions were made to stop the leagues (considering war was declared in September), how many players fought, how the leagues were reconvened (same league make up in 1946 as in 1939?) and also I once read that a City team took part in a War Cup. Do we have any info about that? Was it a Dad's Army type affair?


Lots on this in my books Manchester The City Years (seasonal commentary)and Manchester City TheComplete Record (every result, lineup and attendance for all City's war league games). Basically, regional leagues were set up, as they had been in WW1. City won trophies in WW1 but not successful during WW2 Leagues. After the war the FA Cup was reintroduced in 1946 on a two legged basis, the the following season the FL resumed with the fixtures that had been scrapped from 1939-40.
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Re: During the war...

Postby Sister of fu » Mon Mar 27, 2017 6:36 am

Women started to play but the FA flew into a panic when they started to get big crowds so packed them all back off to there homes to do more kitchen work and child minding.
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Re: During the war...

Postby City64 » Mon Mar 27, 2017 6:56 am

A pint of Stella was half a sixpence .
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Re: During the war...

Postby RodneyRodney » Mon Mar 27, 2017 8:37 am

Parachute payments were introduced
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Re: During the war...

Postby patrickblue » Mon Mar 27, 2017 12:04 pm

BookJunior wrote:National football museum is certainly worth a visit. Sir Tom Finney lost his best years because of the war fighting in the Royal Armoured Corps.

He was adored in Preston and rightly so. A loyal player with enormous talent, true Gentleman and a humble plumber who never lost touch with the fans.

Mike Doyle is the nearest I can think of in those terms.

We all know about Salford using Maine Road I presume.


A whole generation of players lost their best years due to WW2, Joe Mercer being a notable example. Of course in context, lack of football was a minor inconvenience.
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Re: During the war...

Postby carolina-blue » Mon Mar 27, 2017 12:07 pm

RodneyRodney wrote:Parachute payments were introduced


Made me chuckle :lol:
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Re: During the war...

Postby zuricity » Mon Mar 27, 2017 7:44 pm

City64 wrote:A pint of Stella was half a sixpence .



If you could get it with your ration coupons.
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Re: During the war...

Postby City64 » Mon Mar 27, 2017 8:26 pm

zuricity wrote:
City64 wrote:A pint of Stella was half a sixpence .



If you could get it with your ration coupons.


Trade off with powdered eggs ? :lol:
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