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8 Prem Managers In The Dock

Postby johnny crossan » Tue Sep 27, 2016 9:03 pm

All revealed at the San Carlo in town apparently


Exclusive: Eight Premier League managers took transfer bungs, claim football agents
Agents reveal widespread corruption in English football


27 SEPTEMBER 2016 • 9:45PM
Eight current or former Premier League managers stand accused of receiving “bungs” for player transfers after The Telegraph found widespread evidence of corruption in the English game.

As Sam Allardyce lost his job as England manager following the Telegraph’s disclosures about his conduct, the Football Association faced a separate crisis over the alleged bribery of managers.

Football agents were filmed by undercover reporters boasting about how many managers they had paid off, with one agent saying that in football, “everything is under the table”.

Later this week the Telegraph will also disclose the name of an assistant manager at a leading club who was filmed accepting a £5,000 cash payment from undercover reporters posing as representatives of a Far East firm that wanted to invest in players.

How The Telegraph investigation led to Sam Allardyce's downfall
It leaves the FA facing its biggest crisis in recent years, as it deals with evidence that attempts to clean up the game have failed whilst it also has to begin the search for a new manager of the England team.

During a series of meetings with agents, managers and club officials over the summer, undercover reporters built up a dossier of secret recordings and other evidence that suggests corruption remains a major problem in the English game.

The Telegraph has agreed to give all relevant transcripts to the Football Association and has also passed information to the police.

As well as the eight current or recent Premier League managers named by agents, two bosses of Championship clubs were said to have been open to so-called “bungs”.
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Pino Pagliara claimed several football managers are 'bent' in an undercover investigation by the Telegraph
Pino Pagliara, an unlicenced Italian agent who was banned from football for five years for match-fixing in 2005, spoke openly about his reliance on the “greed” of managers.

At San Carlo, the Italian restaurant that doubles as the football world’s meeting room, the names of “bent” football managers tripped off his tongue as easily as the prosecco bubbles popped in his wine glass.

The football agent lowered his voice as he named a well-known manager who, he said, asks if there will be “a little coffee” for him if a transfer deal goes through – code for a backhander.

Warming to the subject, he described another famous manager as “very bent”, who would ask for kickbacks to be deposited in an offshore account when transfers were agreed.

Over the following hours, and during other meetings with undercover Telegraph reporters, Mr Pagliara and two other agents named a total of eight current or recent Premier League managers who they said were known for taking “bungs”, including five they said they had personally paid off.

They also named two Championship managers who, they said, had accepted bribes. They were unaware that their conversations were being recorded as part of a Telegraph investigation into corruption in football, thinking instead they were talking to representatives of a Far Eastern firm looking to invest in soccer.

With their guard dropped, the agents provided a troubling insight into a footballing nation where, according to one of them, “everything is under the table” and corruption is widespread.

By the time Mr Pagliara sat down to his lunch of king prawns followed by risotto at San Carlo in Manchester, where virtually every player, manager and agent in the north west has dined at some point, he had already held several meetings with representatives of the fictitious Far East firm, and was keen to use their supposed financial clout to further his own career in the sometimes murky world of player transfers.

He explained to the woman sitting next to him that: “There’s one thing I’ve always been able to rely on, and that is the greed of general managers.”

Asked if he meant he paid people in England, he replied, “Here it’s even worse… I thought the Italians were corrupt.” Giving examples, he said of one manager: “We know him very, very well. We do a transfer to [named club], [X] has winked at us and said yeah, I want the player. Is there a little coffee for me, Pino? Yeah, that’s what he will say. “Yeah, course there is. I’ll negotiate that coffee as well.”

He added that the manager “will probably tell me, 'OK I’ve got this guy who I work with a lot, he can put an invoice for consultancy, right, and he will do that. Nobody is stupid these days, they understand the importance of covering their tracks.”

“We will not make any payments directly to him. There’ll be a consultancy agreement with somebody who he trusts enough to let them do that and then he gets it back, that’s how it works.”

He said he could ruin the reputation of one former manager with what he knew about him, “because he’s very bent… I’ve got bank accounts of his, I’ve paid money to him, yeah course I did”.

He said the manager would call him and say “here’s the number”, and would then give him the details of a numbered account at a bank in Switzerland. “It was always numbered accounts,” he said. “I have opened so many Swiss bank accounts for managers that you wouldn’t believe.”

The same individual, who used to manage a high profile team, had also fixed a game, Mr Pagliara claimed. The manager’s representatives yesterday described the allegations as “completely false”. In several instances, he admitted that he had personally paid the officials “bungs” to secure deals.

During another meeting with undercover reporters, Mr Pagliara alleged that another manager made his own players give him kickbacks in return for increasing their wages.

He said: “There was three players, and every month they would come into his office with £4,000 cash each of them, so he was getting £12,000. What happened was when they had done the deal he said 'they’ve done the wages and you’re going to get ten grand a week, so I’m going to give you 12 grand a week and you’re going to give me four grand a month – so obviously they were getting four grand a month extra and he was getting four grand.”

The manager in question last night described the allegation as “pure fantasy”. As a general rule of thumb, the Italian agent, who was banned from football for five years in 2005 for match-fixing, said it was easier to bribe managers in the Championship because they earned less.

However, he said there were one or two in the Premier League that still took money. He named one manager who “likes money” to secure deals, adding that he “takes a few” because “he’s not being paid big money”.

The manager last night denied he had ever “taken money to facilitate football transfers”. At the meeting with the Far Eastern “businessmen”, Mr Pagliara said with a shrug: “Listen, in football everything is underneath the table… I mastered that.”

Such was his reputation, he said, that people knew “if you went into a deal with me you came out with pounds and francs”.

During his meetings with the undercover reporters, Mr Pagliara moaned about a “reformed rogue” of a manager who “used to need the money but he’s had so much now that all of a sudden he’s whiter than white”. He said: “I felt like saying '[X], you’ve had more backhanders than Wimbledon, what are you talking about?’ “You know he’s a wheeler and dealer don’t you?... he gambles 20 grand a day, he needs to make money… he’ll be earning three or four million, he still wants 50 grand in cash.”

The manager last night denied taking bungs. Another coach who has managed several British clubs was allegedly sacked by one club after being “caught with his fingers in the till”.
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Re: 8 Prem Managers In The Dock

Postby Chopper » Tue Sep 27, 2016 9:44 pm

Droopy dog must be shitting bricks right now
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Re: 8 Prem Managers In The Dock

Postby Nigels Tackle » Tue Sep 27, 2016 9:50 pm

Chopper wrote:Droopy dog must be shitting bricks right now


doubt that baconface is sleeping too easy
no coincidence that they chose a manchester restaurant where many deals have been concluded....
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Re: 8 Prem Managers In The Dock

Postby nottsblue » Tue Sep 27, 2016 9:51 pm

Bet bacon wasn't averse to trousering a few quid on some of the deals he pulled over the years
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Re: 8 Prem Managers In The Dock

Postby Blue Since 76 » Tue Sep 27, 2016 9:52 pm

Please be bacon, please be bacon, please be bacon.

And Mourinho
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Re: 8 Prem Managers In The Dock

Postby Scatman » Tue Sep 27, 2016 9:53 pm

What's the saying? Bears shit in the woods?
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Re: 8 Prem Managers In The Dock

Postby PoC » Wed Sep 28, 2016 7:39 am

I thought it was the pope that shits in the woods.
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Re: 8 Prem Managers In The Dock

Postby ross.mcfc » Wed Sep 28, 2016 9:18 am

The investigation is probably only focusing on recent managers but I was sure KK was at it when he was at City.
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Re: 8 Prem Managers In The Dock

Postby Justified logic » Wed Sep 28, 2016 9:34 am

Have they had 'Arry on talkSport to give his views on it yet?
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Re: 8 Prem Managers In The Dock

Postby Nigels Tackle » Wed Sep 28, 2016 9:35 am

ross.mcfc wrote:The investigation is probably only focusing on recent managers but I was sure KK was at it when he was at City.


are you suggesting the vuoso deal was dodgy?
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Re: 8 Prem Managers In The Dock

Postby nottsblue » Wed Sep 28, 2016 9:45 am

Nigels Tackle wrote:
ross.mcfc wrote:The investigation is probably only focusing on recent managers but I was sure KK was at it when he was at City.


are you suggesting the vuoso deal was dodgy?

That and about ten others.

I'd be gobsmacked if it was only eight managers named. It would probably take high and low searching to find eight managers not at the trough. This will be like the MP expenses story when it snowballed
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Re: 8 Prem Managers In The Dock

Postby ross.mcfc » Wed Sep 28, 2016 10:18 am

nottsblue wrote:
Nigels Tackle wrote:
ross.mcfc wrote:The investigation is probably only focusing on recent managers but I was sure KK was at it when he was at City.


are you suggesting the vuoso deal was dodgy?

That and about ten others.

I'd be gobsmacked if it was only eight managers named. It would probably take high and low searching to find eight managers not at the trough. This will be like the MP expenses story when it snowballed


You don’t hear Willy McKays name much these days now that KK is out of the game.

Managers like Keegan and Hughes who basically only signed players from the one agent is surely a starting point into an investigation about managers pocketing money from deals.
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Re: 8 Prem Managers In The Dock

Postby Wonderwall » Wed Sep 28, 2016 11:04 am

ross.mcfc wrote:
nottsblue wrote:
Nigels Tackle wrote:
ross.mcfc wrote:The investigation is probably only focusing on recent managers but I was sure KK was at it when he was at City.


are you suggesting the vuoso deal was dodgy?

That and about ten others.

I'd be gobsmacked if it was only eight managers named. It would probably take high and low searching to find eight managers not at the trough. This will be like the MP expenses story when it snowballed


You don’t hear Willy McKays name much these days now that KK is out of the game.

Managers like Keegan and Hughes who basically only signed players from the one agent is surely a starting point into an investigation about managers pocketing money from deals.


wasn't Ali B on the way to the north east for contract negotiations when KK invited him to stop by Moss Side and he never left.
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Re: 8 Prem Managers In The Dock

Postby PeterParker » Wed Sep 28, 2016 1:14 pm

Are they going to release the names?
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Re: 8 Prem Managers In The Dock

Postby JamieMCFC » Wed Sep 28, 2016 1:19 pm

PeterParker wrote:Are they going to release the names?


Probably won't hear anything soon. They turned the evidence over to the FA and police.
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Re: 8 Prem Managers In The Dock

Postby bigblue » Wed Sep 28, 2016 1:29 pm

Ravel Morrison has tweeted no one believed him about big sam, and there was this from a few years ago from Punchon about Warnock of being corrupt:

http://www.101greatgoals.com/blog/jason ... g-crooked/
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Re: 8 Prem Managers In The Dock

Postby Bianchi on Ice » Wed Sep 28, 2016 3:03 pm

I just hope that the court makes sure there is a bowl of water for arry's dog
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Re: 8 Prem Managers In The Dock

Postby patrickblue » Wed Sep 28, 2016 3:19 pm

ross.mcfc wrote:
nottsblue wrote:
Nigels Tackle wrote:
ross.mcfc wrote:The investigation is probably only focusing on recent managers but I was sure KK was at it when he was at City.


are you suggesting the vuoso deal was dodgy?

That and about ten others.

I'd be gobsmacked if it was only eight managers named. It would probably take high and low searching to find eight managers not at the trough. This will be like the MP expenses story when it snowballed


You don’t hear Willy McKays name much these days now that KK is out of the game.

Managers like Keegan and Hughes who basically only signed players from the one agent is surely a starting point into an investigation about managers pocketing money from deals.


When I read the line "The same individual, who used to manage a high profile team", Hughes immediately sprung to mind.

But like a lot of others, I'd love it to be bacon.
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Re: 8 Prem Managers In The Dock

Postby Fidel Castro » Wed Sep 28, 2016 3:23 pm

Mourinho is very close to that Mendes agent, is he not? He could be the manager that "used to manage a high profile team"
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Re: 8 Prem Managers In The Dock

Postby Dimples » Wed Sep 28, 2016 5:45 pm

Wish somebody would go undercover and investigate match officials.
There is only one explanation for some decisions like Us Vs. Spurs last season.
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