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Nigels Tackle wrote:

london blue 2 wrote:What's joe actually done wrong?

Seems he's getting a lot of abuse for just not being that good with his feet, something we knew and accepted previously.

Good luck to the lad. City legend for me.

keep up mate
he's shit and a snakey cunt

littlebig wrote:

Nigels Tackle wrote:

london blue 2 wrote:What's joe actually done wrong?

Seems he's getting a lot of abuse for just not being that good with his feet, something we knew and accepted previously.

Good luck to the lad. City legend for me.

keep up mate
he's shit and a snakey cunt

NT can you provide source for info?

Nigels Tackle wrote:

littlebig wrote:

Nigels Tackle wrote:

london blue 2 wrote:What's joe actually done wrong?

Seems he's getting a lot of abuse for just not being that good with his feet, something we knew and accepted previously.

Good luck to the lad. City legend for me.

keep up mate
he's shit and a snakey cunt

NT can you provide source for info?

viewtopic.php?f=119&t=51827

iwasthere2012 wrote:

Nigels Tackle wrote:

littlebig wrote:

Nigels Tackle wrote:

london blue 2 wrote:What's joe actually done wrong?

Seems he's getting a lot of abuse for just not being that good with his feet, something we knew and accepted previously.

Good luck to the lad. City legend for me.

keep up mate
he's shit and a snakey cunt

NT can you provide source for info?

viewtopic.php?f=119&t=51827

Stop the ride. I want to get off.

Nige wrote:Totally not impressed.

Maybe Joe does need an upgrade based on his very poor distribution, but he's still a good shop stopper.

Bravo is only 6' tall so what we gain with tiki taka sweeper play we lose with physique and catching crosses.

Very concerned!

PrezIke wrote:

Nige wrote:Totally not impressed.

Maybe Joe does need an upgrade based on his very poor distribution, but he's still a good shop stopper.

Bravo is only 6' tall so what we gain with tiki taka sweeper play we lose with physique and catching crosses.

Very concerned!

I heard someone on the BlueMoon podcast also demean the idea of the keeper in Pep's system as important and I am wondering are people watching the games?

It isn't a small thing to have a keeper who can do the things Pep wants and NEEDS, because it's crucial to the way we will play. By the keeper being so good with the ball and having the adequate vision and composure he prevents opportunities for the opposition by helping to retain possession.

Meanwhile, Bravo is not as tall but as far as I understand better at catching than Joe, who I am surprised to read being written about as a strength of his. He much prefers to punch from what I see, and not always with enough authority to rid us of further danger.

Gringo Twatburger wrote:

PrezIke wrote:

Nige wrote:Totally not impressed.

Maybe Joe does need an upgrade based on his very poor distribution, but he's still a good shop stopper.

Bravo is only 6' tall so what we gain with tiki taka sweeper play we lose with physique and catching crosses.

Very concerned!

I heard someone on the BlueMoon podcast also demean the idea of the keeper in Pep's system as important and I am wondering are people watching the games?

It isn't a small thing to have a keeper who can do the things Pep wants and NEEDS, because it's crucial to the way we will play. By the keeper being so good with the ball and having the adequate vision and composure he prevents opportunities for the opposition by helping to retain possession.

Meanwhile, Bravo is not as tall but as far as I understand better at catching than Joe, who I am surprised to read being written about as a strength of his. He much prefers to punch from what I see, and not always with enough authority to rid us of further danger.

i've said it before...i've watched the Chilean team a fucking shit ton the last couple years.

Bravo is fantastic....he will absolutely 100% in Pep's system be an upgrade on Joe. I'm sorry but it's pretty fucking simple ladies and gentlemen. Is he a "better" shotstopper than our brave English lion? it will only matter when it matters. I'm sure the haters will come out when he makes his first mistake, which all goalies make from time to time.

He's an upgrade in Pep's style of play and that's the bottom line. Loved Joe's contributions but this isn't emotional in terms of the decision, altho the goodbye and memories are more than emotional indeed. What a great run Joe had with us! i'll always always always appreciate it. Similar to when Micah had to go....but on a grander scale. It's time.

cheers

Dameerto wrote:Joe was needed under Pellegrini because he is one of the world's best reaction savers, and Pellegrini's system invited pressure on the defence.
Under Pep we're a possession team looking to build up plays from the back with a sweeper keeper being vital to snuffing out opposition chances while regaining possession if we happen to lose it.
Where Pellegrini's system played to Joe's strengths Pep's system plays to his weaknesses (he's always had those 'rash' moments where he makes a decision that leaves us wondering what the heck he's doing - and no amount of coaching is going to stop it). Taking emotion and sentiment out of it I guess it's not really surprising it looks like he's on his way out.

Piccsnumberoneblue wrote:

Dameerto wrote:Joe was needed under Pellegrini because he is one of the world's best reaction savers, and Pellegrini's system invited pressure on the defence.
Under Pep we're a possession team looking to build up plays from the back with a sweeper keeper being vital to snuffing out opposition chances while regaining possession if we happen to lose it.
Where Pellegrini's system played to Joe's strengths Pep's system plays to his weaknesses (he's always had those 'rash' moments where he makes a decision that leaves us wondering what the heck he's doing - and no amount of coaching is going to stop it). Taking emotion and sentiment out of it I guess it's not really surprising it looks like he's on his way out.

Peller's system didn't invite pressure. We were so a possession based team then too.

Piccsnumberoneblue wrote:

Dameerto wrote:Joe was needed under Pellegrini because he is one of the world's best reaction savers, and Pellegrini's system invited pressure on the defence.
Under Pep we're a possession team looking to build up plays from the back with a sweeper keeper being vital to snuffing out opposition chances while regaining possession if we happen to lose it.
Where Pellegrini's system played to Joe's strengths Pep's system plays to his weaknesses (he's always had those 'rash' moments where he makes a decision that leaves us wondering what the heck he's doing - and no amount of coaching is going to stop it). Taking emotion and sentiment out of it I guess it's not really surprising it looks like he's on his way out.

Peller's system didn't invite pressure. We were so a possession based team then too.

Dameerto wrote:

Piccsnumberoneblue wrote:

Dameerto wrote:Joe was needed under Pellegrini because he is one of the world's best reaction savers, and Pellegrini's system invited pressure on the defence.
Under Pep we're a possession team looking to build up plays from the back with a sweeper keeper being vital to snuffing out opposition chances while regaining possession if we happen to lose it.
Where Pellegrini's system played to Joe's strengths Pep's system plays to his weaknesses (he's always had those 'rash' moments where he makes a decision that leaves us wondering what the heck he's doing - and no amount of coaching is going to stop it). Taking emotion and sentiment out of it I guess it's not really surprising it looks like he's on his way out.

Peller's system didn't invite pressure. We were so a possession based team then too.

Are you kidding me? Even when we were scoring for fun in his first year we were so unbalanced it made me wince. We played with a high defensive line and were vulnerable at all times to counter attacks especially through the centre. We were set up to blow teams away, and when it didn't happen Pellegrini rarely had an answer.

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