carl_feedthegoat wrote:Cocacolajojo wrote:carl_feedthegoat wrote:
Its been whispered amongst fans and "sources" that Harts a fuckign trouble maker..same as Kompany , and thats due to the fact they think they are untouchable.......this was one of the reasons why Mancini was fired imo.
Peps set up his stall and now decisions have been made ,Hart should fight for his place but he wont , so he deserves fuckall.
And if all of this is true, fine. But we don't know do we? I think what's bothering me is how people is saying this like it's gospel when it's not, it's rumours and guesswork. If you want to believe this, fine, but don't act like it's a fact.
Btw, not a dig at you Carl. You've been very open with your opinion about Hart for a long time and now seem to be getting what you want. I hope it's for the better for all of us.
Noone ever knows the real truth until its in black and white , but there have been too many smoke alarms for it not to be true.
I dont like Hart and I never have , but there again I dont like some people who work for me , but they do a great job and remain in their jobs because of it. I want Hart gone because hes not an all rounder and makes stupid fuckign mistakes and to top it off I hate l his scum loving attitude ...thats why i want him gone.
Im not vindictive in any way whatsoever.....I just see the writing on the wall very quickly.
I can understand where CCJJ is coming from regarding knowing facts and what is in the rumour mill.
It's true Carl that you have demonstrated repeatedly and consistently that you are a black and white kind of guy. I myself believe there are usually various shades of grey inbetween. However, on the subject of Hart I tend to agree with your summation of the situation.
I've always considered him an excellent shot stopper, but there are so many other bread and butter aspects of goalkeeping that I found him average in.
The biggest flaw I could see is that in games where he has not been too busy his levels of concentration were not always what they should be. There was a complacency at times. He was usually at his best when we were under the cosh and he was totally occupied. Anyway that's opinion.
I think you are correct in assuming there is no smoke without fire. He's had issues with three managers now. There is obviously more to Pep's decision than just 'Joe can't pass a ball, short'.
If it's a case that Joe 'won't' pass a ball short and is calling pep's bluff then there was only ever going to be one winner in my opinion.
If Joe doesn't buckle down and try to improve enough to get into Pep's plans, then he'll be gone and I'll say good luck mate, thanks for the memories.
But I won't be that upset.
I always thought that the only reason Hart was considered so highly was because he is English and the England no.1 at that. The truth is he has never been anything special. A very good shot stopper like I said, but pretty average at a lot of other goalkeeping skills.
If it comes out that any of the rumours are true about snitches in the dressing room or whatever, then the sooner Pep weeds out that cancer the better and that goes for anyone in the squad. It doesn't matter who they are or were. We won't progress until the cancer is cut out. No loans. Get rid quickly.
Just my opinion. I'll trust Pep to do whatever is neccessary with full backing from the board.
