Dimples wrote:Tokyo Blue wrote:Dimples wrote:Swales4ever wrote:those guys have to - somehow - justify the chair they seat and, apart for delivering Pep with 3 years delay plus KdB (and would add even Sir Dinho for very good measure) they have done nothing but purchasing third options at overly inflated fees.
which, in turns, continue to make a fool of THE CHAIRMAN's business reputation.
as many advised posters have noted in both preseason match threads, what shown by Tosin, Maffeo and Angelino, and I'd add by today Denayer's performance, granted the manager's reputation at nurturing freshmen, raise huge question marks on the need to waste a factory of money on yet another prospect who is gonna add nothing of note to the potential of a top club aiming to the very top.
MCFC are CL semifinalist, among the richest of riches, already filled with some world class players and now managed by the very best: who the hell wont will to join??? still...
Really? Are you serious or is this just click bait?
They got Pep - most coveted manager in world football
They got Sterling. - Dippers would have done anything to keep him
They got Brown - same story as Sterling
They look like getting Stones. - Chelsea tried 3 times last year and failed
They look like getting Sane - same story as Sterling and Brown
Every one of those signings is again'st the odds but they delivered
Add to that they look like getting the Columbian and Brazilian wonder kids despite intense competition
Also what Pelles wanted is different to what Mancini wanted is different to what Pep wants.
So you end up with players that need to be moved on, that get old, that just don't fit anymore.
Finally, 2 PLs, an FA cup and 2 league cups later plus top 4 for ever and you have the nerve to say they don't deliver.
Your kind of attitude really pisses me of.
Your attitude is, of course, outstanding.
OK attitude is the wrong word.
It was an opinion from Swales4ever and we are both entitled to those even if they differ.
Maybe I am to old.
I have followed city since the 60s.
I have never been as excited as now.
I see the new team being built bit by bit.
The two South American kids are part of that.
So are the academy kids - and what we are seeing is only the start of the conveyor belt.
Brown and Sterling are part of that same as Stones and Sane will be if we get them.
The current players, even those who no longer deliver, contributed to success, Yaya, Nasri, etc...
The two Spanish guys are at the core of all of this.
I cannot believe how lucky we are.
But I am an old timer, past my sell buy date I suppose because I see those complaints as greedy
With more than a hint of entitlement.
That is just my opinion.
You what, mate? early this morning, when I saw Your very emotional reprimenda, I was moved to suggest You to take a seat and have a tea break, then read again my post and think if You still see it through what seems to me a quite stereotyped kinda spectacles. I am glad and thankfull that You seem to have already had that break.
It's fair to say that our entitlement on City opinions is not equal: in fact, as a non Mancunian, lesser aged incomer, I wasnt there since the 60s, through shining and dire times, always caring and suffering for the Blues, as You were. So I wholeheartily concede that Your opinion comes first and commands more resppect.
Does it means it's, as well, worthier or more spot on, though? I'm afraid not, mate.
As you can appreciate, my oldier fellow Blue, I come in no confrontational mood, so that I wont ask what drove, someone who appears as a balanced person, to take a cool opinion on saving a "factory of money" (metaphore not used by chance, in those troubled times for mean street people) on just another prospect who would add nothing to the prospect City have already in house, for a greedy stance. And I take for granted that you are related to none of the Spafia... :-)
More seriously, I can even come across to where Your opinion come from: the mainstream idea that, ADUG's money it's mot my money, I'm just a life long suffering Blue, who works hard all week long and all I care it's to be entertained at the w.e. game and come home proud of my beloved City.
As long as City stay top and offer entertainment, I couldn't care the less even if it could take the same money by which You might turn Wales into an industrial power greater than Germany. fair enough.
Still, because my post was a short reflection on the very average standard of the Club's business management, let tell You that Your repremenda doesnt seem to reflect a particular qualification on business management, if I humbly may.
Having earned some qualification and experience on the matter I can tell You for granted two main weaknesses of Your argumentation:
a) since the manager who have restored City where they belong has been boot out of the door, mainly claiming a greedy and excessive demand for upgrading quality on new purchases, the guys You feel as being the core of Bluemoon raise, have spent almost HALF A BILLION BRITISH POUNDS, but the sporting "trajectory" of Club's honours has substantially moved backward, unless You want to portrait a league title in three years, when facing the weakest domestic opposition since probably England won the WC, a successfull remuneration of such an astonishing investment in addition to the ranks who won the title 44 yrs later the previous one. same applies, imho, to the quality of the roster, barring as I originally said, Kevin and Dinho. Too little and very much too costly to even consider the use of the words successfull delivering.
As for Raheem, while I fully endorsed the stance of all who pledge us fans to stand right behind the lad for all the vicious and outrageous sticks he receive by the dippers and rags loving media, I very much hope that his struggle was due to Pellers limits and that he will get a massive sparkle by Pep, but what he showed so far at us (and tbh also when he was more suitably utilized @ dippers) is far far away from anything more than a raw potential, hence the overly inflated fee is yet again far away from the notion of successfull delivering.
b) I presume that what drives You to opine the Spafia as core is the substantial increase of the Club's marketing revenue, to define it shortly.
Please, pay attention, that in the present post-industrial and overly fianancial economy, there are very few, if any, sectors on the raise as the global football entertaiment industry. I.e. to say that, once you have to sell a self-selling product like ADUG's MCFC, it doesnt take more than a brillant Major Universities' postgraduate on marketing management to deliver it. I promise You.
All in all, my respected mate, without getting into needless and boring analysis, no matter what business sector makes reference, business management is ALWAYS down to ol' VALUE FOR MONEY, and what we saw so far from the Guys You rate so much, is VERY LITTLE VALUE for HUGE MONEY, in addition to a pretty always delayed delivery, starting from the core target, manager Pep Guardiola, the only reason, imo, why Khaldoon had assessed to bet on a CEO, holding such a controversial reputation for his, already questioned in court, tendency to a offhand management of shareholders' money.
Since now, I apologise to You, if reading the above have drive You a headache. Unfortunately, my struggle with synthesis is in common knowledge.
On the contrary, if You want me to expand on the original matter of the thread, I beg You to refer to my above exchange with our very own John of Cornwall.
