zuricity wrote:why tf were those minnows from scouseland involved in meetings with the PL big 4?
BlueinBosnia wrote:I can imagine them introducing a rule that if you've won the European Cup 3 or more times, you get guaranteed permanent entry, just so long as you remain in the top flight of your domestic league.
That'd keep Rags, Inter, Milan and Liverpool safe, while also guaranteeing a place for Ajax, one of the teams intent on starting some kind of breakaway league.
nottsblue wrote:BlueinBosnia wrote:I can imagine them introducing a rule that if you've won the European Cup 3 or more times, you get guaranteed permanent entry, just so long as you remain in the top flight of your domestic league.
That'd keep Rags, Inter, Milan and Liverpool safe, while also guaranteeing a place for Ajax, one of the teams intent on starting some kind of breakaway league.
Sadly, you are probably bang on the money.
zuricity wrote:nottsblue wrote:BlueinBosnia wrote:I can imagine them introducing a rule that if you've won the European Cup 3 or more times, you get guaranteed permanent entry, just so long as you remain in the top flight of your domestic league.
That'd keep Rags, Inter, Milan and Liverpool safe, while also guaranteeing a place for Ajax, one of the teams intent on starting some kind of breakaway league.
Sadly, you are probably bang on the money.
Whilst it is an interesting thought about the Rags etc.
Don't you think other teams in the PL would protest about the guaranteed unfair competition in Europe ?
zuricity wrote:nottsblue wrote:BlueinBosnia wrote:I can imagine them introducing a rule that if you've won the European Cup 3 or more times, you get guaranteed permanent entry, just so long as you remain in the top flight of your domestic league.
That'd keep Rags, Inter, Milan and Liverpool safe, while also guaranteeing a place for Ajax, one of the teams intent on starting some kind of breakaway league.
Sadly, you are probably bang on the money.
Whilst it is an interesting thought about the Rags etc.
Don't you think other teams in the PL would protest about the guaranteed unfair competition in Europe ?
gillie wrote:If this happens it might just push me to stop watching football.
Im_Spartacus wrote:Amongst the proposals are 'Protected places for bigger clubs' - yet people, usually United, Liverpool and Arsenal fans are still blinkered to what Financial Fair Play was actually all about.
If protected places comes in, they really should just abandon the charade that there is a free competition, and go with a closed super league
iwasthere2012 wrote:Im_Spartacus wrote:Amongst the proposals are 'Protected places for bigger clubs' - yet people, usually United, Liverpool and Arsenal fans are still blinkered to what Financial Fair Play was actually all about.
If protected places comes in, they really should just abandon the charade that there is a free competition, and go with a closed super league
It would be more honest,at least.
Im_Spartacus wrote:iwasthere2012 wrote:Im_Spartacus wrote:Amongst the proposals are 'Protected places for bigger clubs' - yet people, usually United, Liverpool and Arsenal fans are still blinkered to what Financial Fair Play was actually all about.
If protected places comes in, they really should just abandon the charade that there is a free competition, and go with a closed super league
It would be more honest,at least.
The only way I could ever support something like that, is if there was a mechanism by which a big club could lose their place if they stank their league out for 2/3 years in a row, a fair coefficient system that was based solely on domestic performance so that a club isn't tempted to pick and choose which seasons they bother competing in their domestic competitions (as per our current cups). This type of mechanism would almost certainly be needed to maintain the integrity of domestic leagues. (eg, we would probably have fucked the league off and just finished 5th this year in pursuit of CL if guaranteed a place)
iwasthere2012 wrote:Im_Spartacus wrote:iwasthere2012 wrote:Im_Spartacus wrote:Amongst the proposals are 'Protected places for bigger clubs' - yet people, usually United, Liverpool and Arsenal fans are still blinkered to what Financial Fair Play was actually all about.
If protected places comes in, they really should just abandon the charade that there is a free competition, and go with a closed super league
It would be more honest,at least.
The only way I could ever support something like that, is if there was a mechanism by which a big club could lose their place if they stank their league out for 2/3 years in a row, a fair coefficient system that was based solely on domestic performance so that a club isn't tempted to pick and choose which seasons they bother competing in their domestic competitions (as per our current cups). This type of mechanism would almost certainly be needed to maintain the integrity of domestic leagues. (eg, we would probably have fucked the league off and just finished 5th this year in pursuit of CL if guaranteed a place)
To be honest, ever since they started calling football a product, I have struggled with my enthusiasm for the professional game. It is a business and so far removed from what I played and loved and have watched my son playing. I think the reason so many of us still love watching the underage teams is that they are the last vestiges of the virtues of the game that we love. We cling to the wholesomeness shown before agents and greed and business corrupts the purity of the sport out of them.
City are still rallying against the machine and as such I still can get enthusiastic about us winning against the odds being manipulated by the establishment.
I'm with Gillie on this one though. If we just become part of a closed shop designed to keep the money coming in then no thanks.
We become less and less a sports fan and more and more a customer or consumer.
There is no other industry on earth that could demand the same unconditional customer support that football does. If we are treated first and foremost as consumers then I predict a future where globally you will see the same customer/consumer fickleness when it comes to brand loyalty.
iwasthere2012 wrote:Im_Spartacus wrote:iwasthere2012 wrote:Im_Spartacus wrote:Amongst the proposals are 'Protected places for bigger clubs' - yet people, usually United, Liverpool and Arsenal fans are still blinkered to what Financial Fair Play was actually all about.
If protected places comes in, they really should just abandon the charade that there is a free competition, and go with a closed super league
It would be more honest,at least.
The only way I could ever support something like that, is if there was a mechanism by which a big club could lose their place if they stank their league out for 2/3 years in a row, a fair coefficient system that was based solely on domestic performance so that a club isn't tempted to pick and choose which seasons they bother competing in their domestic competitions (as per our current cups). This type of mechanism would almost certainly be needed to maintain the integrity of domestic leagues. (eg, we would probably have fucked the league off and just finished 5th this year in pursuit of CL if guaranteed a place)
To be honest, ever since they started calling football a product, I have struggled with my enthusiasm for the professional game. It is a business and so far removed from what I played and loved and have watched my son playing. I think the reason so many of us still love watching the underage teams is that they are the last vestiges of the virtues of the game that we love. We cling to the wholesomeness shown before agents and greed and business corrupts the purity of the sport out of them.
City are still rallying against the machine and as such I still can get enthusiastic about us winning against the odds being manipulated by the establishment.
I'm with Gillie on this one though. If we just become part of a closed shop designed to keep the money coming in then no thanks.
We become less and less a sports fan and more and more a customer or consumer.
There is no other industry on earth that could demand the same unconditional customer support that football does. If we are treated first and foremost as consumers then I predict a future where globally you will see the same customer/consumer fickleness when it comes to brand loyalty.
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